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    The entrance is a narrow alley between two buildings; however, you can see it open into a large paved courtyard not far beyond.

    Inside, you immediately see a strange building built of dark stone with a low wall around it. The tall should be visible from the street, but isn't. From here though, it almost dominates the sky. This is, quite obviously, the sanctum of The Guild of Starlight and Shadows.
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    ...this is both scary and impressive...
    He walks closer to the tower, looking for an entrance or anyone he could ask for information about this place.

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    There is a large, obvious front door. It stands open. There are no other apparent entrances.
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    Lanakhad shrugs and enters.

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    Couldn't hold back...

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    The main room of the Guild is more of a common seating area than anything else. There are several couches, tables, and other places to relax. Large open doors lead out into the courtyard behind the wall.

    The moment you enter, you are stopped by a female elf sitting at a desk to your left.

    "Welcome to the Guild of Starlight and Shadows. May I help you?"
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    Oh... this is a nice place...

    He turns to the woman
    "Good day to you. I am new in the city and in need of association, would you care to tell me about the Guild and what is expected of it's members?" He asks with a smile.

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    "We are dedicated to supporting our members in their magical endeavors, helping them to obtain the proper permits and licenses in the city and wider kingdom, and in protecting them legally should charges of some kind be filed. We also work to encourage the research and development of magical knowledge, particularly as it pertains to the creation of magical items.

    There is a 1,000gp application fee. You must pay that fee each time you apply should you fail to meet standards on your first application. Annual dues for members are based upon your magical abilities and your ability to acquire income.

    Additional benefits include a small apartment within the sanctum, should you need a place to live, a centralized place to sell your spellcasting services where customers know to seek such, a discount on material components and crafting materials, as well as access to our order's arcane library.
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    Annual dues are 250gp per caster level. Income based dues are equal to 10% of all profit made from selling spellcasting and selling self-crafted magic items or magic item crafting services.
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    "Some things I need to ask about... Do you accept psionic powers manifesters?
    Is there an access to proper crafting or alchemical lab included in the services?
    What are the 'standards of application'?"


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    "Indeed, we do.

    You may use the on site laboratory for a small fee, provided it is not currently in use. There is a schedule sheet available outside each lab where you can obtain a time.

    I'm afraid that if you have to ask what the standards are, then you likely do not meet them. We admit only competent practitioners.
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    "Still, a competent practitioner wouldn't jump into something without preparation. This is gambling. I am asking not because I am afraid that my abilities don't meet your standards. But if you, for example require citizenship, then I would prefer to know this and go apply for this right before applying here.
    Unless you wish to tell me that this guild gathers gamblers and people who don't think twice before they do something..."


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    Hmm, so crafters would never level up here?
    Or is there a stable and reasonable way to get xp? Not involving near-death experiences?

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    "Not at all. It's just that the requirements are so simple that anyone who can't figure them out for himself is simply unfit."
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    A guild this big shouldn't make citizenship a requirement, it would limit their own growth... Could as well give it a try...

    After a while he nods, more to himself than anyone else.

    "Okay then, where can I apply?"

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    "Provide a bank check worth 1,000, and I'll give you the forms to fill out."
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    "I see, I will be back later then..."

    I need to get a bank account...

    "Thank you for your time."
    He bows slightly and goes back, walking towards Plaza. On the way he tries to find a guard (again) and asks.

    "Excuse me. Could you tell me where and how can I become a citizen of this beautiful city?
    I would also appreciate if you told me something about banks in this city, which one would you recommend and where can I find it."

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    "One bank is as good as the next, I guess. There's one just right around the corner down that road." He points to the east towards the Plaza.

    "Citizenship, now that isn't so easy. You've got to prove suitability and willingness to work, be a contributing member of society, have no criminal record, and you have to have a current citizen of good standing to vouch for you, which isn't easy to come by. See, if you screw up during your first year as a citizen, then whoever vouched for you suffers the same legal penalties that you do. So, not many people are willing to vouch for someone.

    Aside from all that, the paperwork is actually quite easy and the fee is nominal.
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    "I see. He bows politely Thank you for your help, sir."

    He goes to the bank this time, just the one suggested by the guard.

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    He goes inside and tries to find a line, where he could open an account.
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    Yes, you're still in Old Town.
    This bank is called Gold Trust.

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    "Hello, I would like to open an account, could you tell me what does this bank offer to its customers?"

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    "Well, yes, of course. We offer safe, secure vaults with excellent defenses against incursion, both magical and mundane, capable of storing and protecting anything you need stored. We have agreements with the other banks to allow transfer of funds so that you can withdraw and deposit your coin at any location. We also provide transfer notes to third parties at no charge.

    Obtaining an account is simple. We just need a legal form of identification and some basic information from you as well as a 100 gold minimum starting balance.
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    "Legal form of identification? Some kind of legal document?

    Also I would like to know what are current interest rates on deposits, and banks policy and terms of credits."
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    "That would work, yes. We just need something to verify your identity such that we do not give access to your account to the wrong person in the future. It's a standard safety precaution."

    She raises one eyebrow.

    "Interest applies only to loans. I do not know of any bank that pays you for the privilege of storing your money."
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    Do I have any legal document? I would assume yes, but it is better to ask...

    And about banking here (you don't really need to read this)
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    ... you do realize that these banks would go bankrupt really really fast...
    (Sorry... finance major...)

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    Yes, I would assume you have some form of identification, even if you're not a citizen. I'll let you decide what, specifically, you have.


    1Under modern banking models, yes they would. You can think of banks in Aldhaven working more along the lines of a loan shark that also offers safety deposit boxes and free online transactions. Banks here usually also offer a number of other services that the receptionist hasn't mentioned to you that real-world banks do not.

    Also, most people in Aldhaven don't own the homes they live in. Usually, they're owned by one of the banks, which collects regular rent from them.

    In short, they're not much like real-world banks at all...

    It would be pretty cool though if we could sit down on a chat program (MSN/Yahoo/AIM/Skype/etc.) to work out more specifics on how banks work in AVB that would make more sense from a finance perspective...
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    Lanakhad stops for a while with a frown on his face as he hears about the interest... although he thinks that he would have better ways to use money than just letting it stay in someone else's hands...

    He takes out his proof of apprenticeship and asks "Would this be enough?"


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    Under modern banking models, yes they would. You can think of banks in Aldhaven working more along the lines of a loan shark that also offers safety deposit boxes and free online transactions. Banks here usually also offer a number of other services that the receptionist hasn't mentioned to you that real-world banks do not.
    Not really, most profits of both loan sharks and banks are loans/credits. But to lend money, you need to get it from somewhere. Loan sharks are small in their area of work, so they could use their own money, or quite often get it from illegal sources. Banks are too huge to use their own money, so they need to get it from somewhere- deposits. If they didn't pay for deposits, nobody would give it to them.

    It would be pretty cool though if we could sit down on a chat program (MSN/Yahoo/AIM/Skype/etc.) to work out more specifics on how banks work in AVB that would make more sense from a finance perspective...
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    She looks over it then nods and smiles at you.

    "Yes, of course. This will work just fine."

    She digs out a sheet of paper from her desk and hands it to you. It's a simple form asking a few simple questions, such as name, address, and the like.

    "Fill this out, and I'll get you setup with someone who can help you get your account opened."
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    He fills the document, comes back.

    "Ready, where should I go next?"

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    "Just have a seat until we call for you. You'll have to wait until an associate is available."

    After about 10 minutes, the receptionist motion to you and directs you to a side office. Inside, you meet with a stout man.

    "So, you wanted to setup a savings account, huh? Well, let's see if you've got your paperwork filled out correctly and go from there. Shall we?"
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    "Yes. Of course." says Lanakhad, handing him the papers.

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    He checks your paperwork, looks over your id, and gets your account setup.

    "How much are you wanting to deposit?"
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    He is quiet for a while, then says.
    "Three thousand."

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