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    Default Any shapechange forms that grant a 9th level spell equivalent at will?

    Inquiring minds abusing energy transformation field and absorption would love to know. I know immoveable rods and the like also work, but if shapechange is already persisted, no reason to not speed things up by using a 9th level ability.

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    Default Re: Any shapechange forms that grant a 9th level spell equivalent at will?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hirax View Post
    Inquiring minds abusing energy transformation field and absorption would love to know. I know immoveable rods and the like also work, but if shapechange is already persisted, no reason to not speed things up by using a 9th level ability.
    Well, Nightmare/Cauchemar's Astral Projection is equivalent to a 9th level spell.
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    Perfect. Off to scare jokingly people with TO shenanigans IRL.
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    Does spellcasting count as (Su)? If so, then what you want is a Black Ethergaunt (Fiend Folio). 16 HD, casts spells as a wizard 17. The Enslave (Su), Stupefying Gaze (Su), Immunity to Spells (Su), Material Jaunt (Su), and Total Vision (Ex) aren't too shabby, either.

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    Shapechange lets you change form as a swift every round, right? If so, if you aren't using your swifts you can refresh your abilities every round by shifting into the same form, so at-will doesn't really matter.
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    Shapechange lets you change form as a swift every round, right? If so, if you aren't using your swifts you can refresh your abilities every round by shifting into the same form, so at-will doesn't really matter.
    Free action, actually. Taken before or after your turn.
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    Shapechange lets you change form as a swift every round, right? If so, if you aren't using your swifts you can refresh your abilities every round by shifting into the same form, so at-will doesn't really matter.
    If we're doing that, then the Zodar (FF) is probably near-enough a top pick. Hell, would wouldn't like a Supernatural Wish every round (OK, other than the DM)?
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    I was just hoping for less moving parts by using an at will ability. All I was pointing out to the people this was meant for was that you could use the SU ability in the absorption ETF, 5' step into a dominate person ETF (you can still be targeted by things you're immune to, it just won't affect you) and use the SU ability, to keep charging up non-stop. That's 24 spell points per minute, and 12,960 in 9 hours, making ETF charging a drastically superior method to obtaining fresh spells per day than resting for 8 hours and preparing spells.
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