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    Trixie's Great and Powerful Guide v1.999
    Trixie Edition


    Brief Introduction

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    My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic is a reboot of the MLP franchise by Powerpuff Girls artist Lauren Faust, currently viewed by (almost) the entire Internet, not only the intended audience. Here is a place where we discuss the joy of friendship.

    > My Little Pony? Seriously?

    It's a clever show. It has excellent writing, character dynamics, humor, animation, and generally treats kids seriously rather than condescending to them. It has every right to be a 20 minute corporate committee designed infomercial, but it's not.

    > Isn't this a show for little girls?

    Pixar technically makes shows for little boys, and produce some of the best animation in the world.

    > Okay, fine. I'll give it a try. Where do I start?

    No Brony could ask for more. I recommend watching the episodes in order. They're all up on Youtube. Unusually, Hasbro seems fine with having the entire series up in public because they've made no move to bring down any of the episodes. Search for "Friendship is Magic Episode 1" and you should find the series pretty easily... Or search for "Sharing is Magic" Google Doc. That is all.

    > Okay, I'm going to watch it but this had better live up to the hype!

    Whoa, calm down there. The show is light hearted, optimistic fun but it's not for everyone. It's good fun, the community is good fun, and everyone can do with a reminder that friendship is magic but if it doesn't gel for you we'll love and tolerate you anyway. Plus, you might hit the wrong episode. Ask first?

    > Iron Hoof/Fan Theories/Shipping/Binding

    All in good fun! If it's not your cup of tea, skim it, but this show has triggered a great creative outpouring from the Internet. Pony themed fan-art is abundant and often excellent. See below for some examples.

    > Derpy Hooves/Doctor Whoof

    Two minor background characters who were adopted as emblems of 4chan. Derpy Hooves is so named due to an animation error in the first episode that had her eyes facing in different directions; 4chan has assigned her the role of Ponyville's mailpony, and her only line so far has been "Muffins". The show's animators are aware of Derpy's popularity and she's shown up a few times recently with her eyes obviously derped. Currently made canon in Feeling Pinkie Keen and in Faust's picture showcased below, Derpy was deemed important enough to appear in storyboards for Season II.

    Dr. Whoof is a pony with an hourglass cutie mark; he and his kin save time and space very quietly off camera.


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    General Resources

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    Fan Fiction and News: Equestria Daily
    Discussion Image Forum: Ponychan
    Pony Emotes: FiM Emotes
    More Emotes: MC's Emotes
    Also Emotes: GD's Emotes
    Pony Images: Ponibooru
    More Images: 20% Cooler
    Know Your Meme: Ponies!
    Allspark MLP Discussion Thread


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    DO YOU HATE SPOILER TAGS?

    Well, Deadly's here to help you get rid of them... with a vengeance! Create a new bookmark in your browser and copy the code below as the link/url of said bookmark. Name it something helpful, like "Spoilers B GONE!" or whatever. Then whenever you view a thread here on GitP you just hit the bookmark and BAM! no more spoilers.

    You won't even see the boxes, just the bare innards in all their gory glory.

    It also makes sure that no image is wider than 600px, to avoid stretching pages, and will attempt to "intelligently" remove repeated images except avatars. Neat, huh? Sadly that last part means stuff like pony emotes may get lost but the forum doesn't make it easy for me to single out images in quotes as I'd have liked... that's an open problem, I guess.

    Tested in Firefox, Chrome and Opera. Should work in any modern browser, but you never know with these things.

    Code:
    javascript:(function() { var a = document.getElementsByTagName('div'); for (var i = 0 ; i < a.length ; i++) { if (a[i].className == 'spoiler') { a[i].style.display = 'block'; a[i].className = ''; } else if (a[i].className == 'pre-spoiler') { a[i].style.display = 'none'; }} var ims = new Array(); var tmp; a = document.getElementsByTagName('img'); for (i = 0 ; i < a.length ; i++) { tmp = a[i].parentNode.className ; if (ims.indexOf(a[i].getAttribute('src')) == -1) { ims.push(a[i].getAttribute('src')); a[i].style.maxWidth = '600px'; } else if (tmp != 'avataroverflow' && tmp != 'alt2') { a[i].style.display = 'none' ; }}})();
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    I love it perhaps because it'd involve destroying absolutely everything Dash is.
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    Yeah, one is arrogant, vain, lazy, narcissist, pushes everyone to join fanclub, doesn't care one bit about feelings of others, has no manners, wants everyone to obediently bow down before greatness, typical vainglorious character.

    The other is Blueblood

    Seriously, if anyone from M6 can be described as trophy wife, it's RD. No work, husband pays for everything, everyone gazes at her with awe? Pure RD. Not even Rarity fits it so well - seeing she is far more proactive, loves her work and wants to be admired partially by her work/merit, not mere existence. Add to that if RD ever heard BB can get her into Wonderbolts in 10 seconds flat, she would have thrown herself at him without thinking.

    The only bit that has chance to backfire in this relationship is getting both to admire each other instead of admiring only him/herself, but that is possible and kinda easy compared to what mismatch is routinely ignored by shippers to pair RD with anyone but Wonderbolt or AJ
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    Aye. Anecdote has it there are two kinda of marines in the US, new marines and old ones. New marines talk a good game about putting their British counterpart in its place. Old marines lay a hand gently on their shoulder and say "shut up before they hurt you and show some damn respect".

    Part of being told this story is that I was charged with passing it on. Like some sort of old boat guy what rhymes, almost an ancient mariner, if you will, I have partially discharged this duty.
    To be fair to the marines, they forge a skilled fighting force out the regular blokes they get (and if we're to believe telly, that also includes people who have had a more troubled past who go to get striaghted up,as it were), and I think the general implication is the marines are the best trained troops out of the US branches. Our special forces i.e., for something like the SAS, tend to be trained from our best troops, we take the best and make them better (and the training for it is plain nasty. My Uncle said he used to drnik with a chap who was ex-SAS; he said was a nice chap to drink with, but there was just something about him that made you not want to mess with him.)



    Actually, though, according to wiki, that record was broken this year by one or two Austrailan snipers (it can't be confirmed which one as they were firing simultaneously) at 2800m (approx 9000 yards); so it means you shouldn't mess with the Austrailians, either. (Though the amount of biological weapons (i.e. every animal in Austrialia except for some of the sheep being poisonous and whatnot) they have to hand should have said that already. Or they might Kylie to record another album or something1.)



    So, to keep this vaguely pony, we know that the Wonderbolts are at least in part a military unit (as far as that goes), see Secrets of My Excess, probably as much as a sort of Red Arrows capacity.

    But what do we reckon the royal guard are? Are they actually well trained and competant (like say the British Royal Guard, form which aforementioned sniper came from) or are they more sort of the slightly buffoonish, not-really-all-that-good because they've never been in a combat situation cerimonial- protection-only (sans Shining Armor, who might be the Captain because he actually has some skill...) or what?

    I tend more towards the latter, seeing as even their Captain has ever showed any ability to do anything useful (looking at the complete lack of effect the Royal Guard had against any of the three big threats to Equestria) - though aside from the last one, that might be a bit unfair. But when six civilians put up a better fight than the entire royal guard (especially when they were supposed to be on high alert, and said civilians included a baker and a seamstress by trade...), it doesn't exactly do them any favours...!



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    Basically a guy with a Youtube channel. He does arbitrary pop/geek-culture things, top lists and general "here's what I think about this" kind of stuff. At one point, he did a Nostalgia Critic style review of Friendship is Magic (the Season 1 pilot), then continued to review The Return of Harmony, and then A Canterlot Wedding... then he said he'd review every episode. He refuses to call himself a brony, however, and part of the premise is that he can wreck an episode for 15 minutes and then at the end go "I really liked it!"

    He's pretty good, actually. If you're cool with snarking about ponies (so far, there's only been one occasion where I want "woah, back the hell off, dude", and he actually did seconds later :P), it's a fun watch.
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    To be fair to the marines, they forge a skilled fighting force out the regular blokes they get (and if we're to believe telly, that also includes people who have had a more troubled past who go to get striaghted up,as it were), and I think the general implication is the marines are the best trained troops out of the US branches. Our special forces i.e., for something like the SAS, tend to be trained from our best troops, we take the best and make them better (and the training for it is plain nasty. My Uncle said he used to drnik with a chap who was ex-SAS; he said was a nice chap to drink with, but there was just something about him that made you not want to mess with him.)
    Navy SEALs tend to be absurdly elite. I knew someone who was trying to get into them and he had to train for the better part of a year to get in shape for the tests. They definitely do NOT take regular blokes, you can't even join them if you're not at the peak of physical conditioning. And that's before their training.



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    So, to keep this vaguely pony, we know that the Wonderbolts are at least in part a military unit (as far as that goes), see Secrets of My Excess, probably as much as a sort of Red Arrows capacity.

    But what do we reckon the royal guard are? Are they actually well trained and competant (like say the British Royal Guard, form which aforementioned sniper came from) or are they more sort of the slightly buffoonish, not-really-all-that-good because they've never been in a combat situation cerimonial- protection-only (sans Shining Armor, who might be the Captain because he actually has some skill...) or what?

    I tend more towards the latter, seeing as even their Captain has ever showed any ability to do anything useful (looking at the complete lack of effect the Royal Guard had against any of the three big threats to Equestria) - though aside from the last one, that might be a bit unfair. But when six civilians put up a better fight than the entire royal guard (especially when they were supposed to be on high alert, and said civilians included a baker and a seamstress by trade...), it doesn't exactly do them any favours...!



    1This was probably a funnier joke if you lived in the UK in the 1980s...
    I put the royal guard somewhere in the middle. I think they're sort of like the Praetorian Guard in ancient Rome. For history, the Praetorians were the guards in the city of Rome. They were skilled and well-trained, and usually acted as the city's police force. In at least a few cases, new emperors became emperor by getting the Praetorians on their side and then having a vote while the Praetorians "guarded" the senate.

    However, the armies of Roman legionnaires, who actually fought on the borders, were way better than the Praetorians (surprise, surprise, the troops that actually got sent into combat and lived were the best troops). In every case in which a Roman general rushed to seize the throne with an actual military force, the Praetorians got destroyed.

    So, that's where I'd put the Equestrian Royal Guard. Trained, skilled, not just for show, but not as good as a real military force ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aotrs Commander View Post
    So, to keep this vaguely pony, we know that the Wonderbolts are at least in part a military unit (as far as that goes), see Secrets of My Excess, probably as much as a sort of Red Arrows capacity.

    But what do we reckon the royal guard are? Are they actually well trained and competant (like say the British Royal Guard, form which aforementioned sniper came from) or are they more sort of the slightly buffoonish, not-really-all-that-good because they've never been in a combat situation cerimonial- protection-only (sans Shining Armor, who might be the Captain because he actually has some skill...) or what?

    I tend more towards the latter, seeing as even their Captain has ever showed any ability to do anything useful (looking at the complete lack of effect the Royal Guard had against any of the three big threats to Equestria) - though aside from the last one, that might be a bit unfair. But when six civilians put up a better fight than the entire royal guard (especially when they were supposed to be on high alert, and said civilians included a baker and a seamstress by trade...), it doesn't exactly do them any favours...!
    Anarion hit my point fairly well but I thought I'd chime in to say that as far as my own understanding, really all three major threats from the first two seasons were of a type the Guard isn't equipped to handle. Obviously, I think we have some common ground in the fact that Nightmare Goddesses and Trickster Gods are not very fair opponents for a military force (which I think is what you were alluding to above), but even the Changelings are problematic. In particular, they don't really attack so much as infiltrate, and from that standpoint it seems like tracking and exposing them would be more suited to espionage, as opposed to direct military tactics. As far as I can tell from their appearances on the show, the Guard is trained mainly in the latter, so it's not surprising they wouldn't have the tools necessary to effectively combat the incursion.
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    but even the Changelings are problematic. In particular, they don't really attack so much as infiltrate, and from that standpoint it seems like tracking and exposing them would be more suited to espionage, as opposed to direct military tactics. As far as I can tell from their appearances on the show, the Guard is trained mainly in the latter, so it's not surprising they wouldn't have the tools necessary to effectively combat the incursion.
    The big complaint tends to be that the Mane 6 did so well against a huge pack of changelings, whereas we see almost no resistance from the Royal Guard, they just get crushed when the invasion hits. Since there were no elements of harmony, this seems to imply that the Guard were significantly worse than six regular (albeit above-average) ponies. 5 ponies and a Gatling gun.

    My opinion is that the changelings were specifically prepared to take out the guard and got surprised by the mane 6 fighting back before overwhelming them. I also think that the narrative requirements of the scene imply that it shouldn't necessarily be taken literally (mane 6 get screentime for their fight because they're important, Royal Guard might have fought in some locations and we never see it).
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    The big complaint tends to be that the Mane 6 did so well against a huge pack of changelings, whereas we see almost no resistance from the Royal Guard, they just get crushed when the invasion hits. Since there were no elements of harmony, this seems to imply that the Guard were significantly worse than six regular (albeit above-average) ponies. 5 ponies and a Gatling gun.
    Ah, I see now. My early-morning brain had not considered that angle just yet.

    My opinion is that the changelings were specifically prepared to take out the guard and got surprised by the mane 6 fighting back before overwhelming them. I also think that the narrative requirements of the scene imply that it shouldn't necessarily be taken literally (mane 6 get screentime for their fight because they're important, Royal Guard might have fought in some locations and we never see it).
    Also good points. I feel I should emphasize also that the ragtag bunch of ponies does have access to Twilight, who is arguably a nigh Alicorn-class mage. (Not to mention Pinkie who regularly breaks reality over her knee)

    Hm, and come to think of it, continuing on the infiltration point, if the Changelings had time to set up ambushes against known targets (in the Guard, for example) it would help explain why the fighting on their part was over quickly. The mane 6 had the benefit of dealing primarily with a single Changeling when the attack was launched, and Celestia seems to have occupied her attention enough to give them a sizeable opening. That would give them a much leveler playing field than many of the Royal Guards likely had.

    Of course, this assumes that Chrysalis wasn't the only one in town before the shield went up, but all things considered, I'm not sure that's a completely unwarranted assumption.
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    However, the armies of Roman legionnaires, who actually fought on the borders, were way better than the Praetorians (surprise, surprise, the troops that actually got sent into combat and lived were the best troops). In every case in which a Roman general rushed to seize the throne with an actual military force, the Praetorians got destroyed.
    Actually, when faced by similar number of even veteran troops, Praetorians tended to destroy them pretty much every time (to the point these victories ended in PG being given imperial Triumph, so they must have been pretty significant). The only reliable way to defeat them was to either bribe their commanders or surround them with vastly superior force and pray for the best (have discussion on this topic).

    So, I'd say it depends on the method of recruitment - if they saw actual combat, can easily be among best forces of Equestria, if they are only glorified city guard recruiting big, good looking white ponies, they can be quite bad (but on the other hand, history is full of military units where fanaticism and selected recruits were substitution for experience and skill, to the point at least).
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    So, to keep this vaguely pony, we know that the Wonderbolts are at least in part a military unit (as far as that goes), see Secrets of My Excess, probably as much as a sort of Red Arrows capacity.

    But what do we reckon the royal guard are? Are they actually well trained and competant (like say the British Royal Guard, form which aforementioned sniper came from) or are they more sort of the slightly buffoonish, not-really-all-that-good because they've never been in a combat situation cerimonial- protection-only (sans Shining Armor, who might be the Captain because he actually has some skill...) or what?

    I tend more towards the latter, seeing as even their Captain has ever showed any ability to do anything useful (looking at the complete lack of effect the Royal Guard had against any of the three big threats to Equestria) - though aside from the last one, that might be a bit unfair. But when six civilians put up a better fight than the entire royal guard (especially when they were supposed to be on high alert, and said civilians included a baker and a seamstress by trade...), it doesn't exactly do them any favours...!
    I tend to the latter as well for pretty much exactly those reasons. The Royal Guard was on high alert and they crumbled like a poorly made muffin.

    Also because it's much more amusing and explains why the Royal Guard never do anything useful. Plus it makes sense if you say Equestria has been in peace since Luna's time.

    The reason everything is going crazy now is one part bad timing but also because they think Celestia has become weak, needing to depend on normal mares to defend Equestria.


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    Ah, I see now. My early-morning brain had not considered that angle just yet.



    Also good points. I feel I should emphasize also that the ragtag bunch of ponies does have access to Twilight, who is arguably a nigh Alicorn-class mage. (Not to mention Pinkie who regularly breaks reality over her knee)

    Hm, and come to think of it, continuing on the infiltration point, if the Changelings had time to set up ambushes against known targets (in the Guard, for example) it would help explain why the fighting on their part was over quickly. The mane 6 had the benefit of dealing primarily with a single Changeling when the attack was launched, and Celestia seems to have occupied her attention enough to give them a sizeable opening. That would give them a much leveler playing field than many of the Royal Guards likely had.

    Of course, this assumes that Chrysalis wasn't the only one in town before the shield went up, but all things considered, I'm not sure that's a completely unwarranted assumption.
    Yes but they also have Fluttershy who wasn't in berserk mode and really isn't a fighter at all.

    The infiltration is an assumption considering we see them attack from the outside. Not unreasonable sure, but still an assumption and failing to detect said infiltration doesn't speak well for them.
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    I would think they were mainly defeated/excluded for plot reasons; the few other times they have been present they have always come across as being both quick to react and highly disciplined (in the parts I remember, I'm sure someone can come up with evidence to the contrary). To justify that, I agree with the angle that the changelings were prepared for them (and outnumbered them), because if you are pulling an infiltration/invasion of that magnitude, you have no reason not to be.

    (Also maybe because they are shown earlier armed with spears, and the show has tended to keep the kill count rather low. There'd be questions raised (with over-analysts like us only admittedly) if they immediately dropped their weapons to go hoof to hoof).
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    So, that's where I'd put the Equestrian Royal Guard. Trained, skilled, not just for show, but not as good as a real military force ever.
    I'd like to add that since it appears Equestria seems to have so few conflicts in the recent years before the series begins, a majority of those guards probably don't have any real combat experience.


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    Well, if you believe that the Royal Guard is mostly incompetent with the exception of Shining Armor then Canterlot is completely screwed against any new threat now that he's staying in the Crystal Empire with Candace.

    Although Ponies culturally as a whole take great pride in their work. Even if the Guard isn't really incompetent they themselves probably felt that way after the changeling invasion and presumably vowed to completely retrain themselves. Not that it will make any difference when the next Big Bad shows up
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    I totally would like to see an episode where the Royal Guard fight someone(s) off successfully, so their only jobs are not standing, looking for a phoenix, delivering messages...


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    I would think they were mainly defeated/excluded for plot reasons; the few other times they have been present they have always come across as being both quick to react and highly disciplined (in the parts I remember, I'm sure someone can come up with evidence to the contrary).
    Well, they lost pretty much immediately to Nightmare Moon too but you can't really fault them for that, still, they needed to be ordered by civilian to actually act.

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    The big complaint tends to be that the Mane 6 did so well against a huge pack of changelings, whereas we see almost no resistance from the Royal Guard, they just get crushed when the invasion hits. Since there were no elements of harmony, this seems to imply that the Guard were significantly worse than six regular (albeit above-average) ponies. 5 ponies and a Gatling gun 4 ponies, a Gatling gun, and The Pink One.
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    Yes but they also have Fluttershy who wasn't in berserk mode and really isn't a fighter at all.
    Ok, but Tier 1 caster plus Chaos Acolyte plus two obviously fit and scrappy combatants plus a couple less-suited ones still equals a major obstacle.

    The infiltration is an assumption considering we see them attack from the outside. Not unreasonable sure, but still an assumption and failing to detect said infiltration doesn't speak well for them.
    Yes, but I think the infiltration angle is not only not unreasonable, but actually very likely. Just because you have a large assault force doesn't mean you don't have any number of spies and informants already present, and possibly double agents ready to flip at key times. As soon as the shield goes down from the more obvious frontal assault, those sleepers can take action and turn a siege into a rout.

    Moreover when your entire race is basically a walking army of spies, why wouldn't your tactics make use of that? It seems very reasonable to assume that Changeling battle tactics have been using espionage and subterfuge for a very long time, simply based on their biology.

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    I would think they were mainly defeated/excluded for plot reasons; the few other times they have been present they have always come across as being both quick to react and highly disciplined (in the parts I remember, I'm sure someone can come up with evidence to the contrary).
    Admittedly, this is the dominant meta reason, but where's the fun if you don't over-analyze things?

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    I'd like to add that since it appears Equestria seems to have so few conflicts in the recent years before the series begins, a majority of those guards probably don't have any real combat experience.
    Also very probably true.

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    I totally would like to see an episode where the Royal Guard fight someone(s) off successfully, so their only jobs are not standing, looking for a phoenix, delivering messages...
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    It should be noted that there is an important difference between The Pink One, Pinkie Pie and The Pink One, the only art of her exists as a many-headed incomprehensible being that Twilight saw once in her nightmares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trixie View Post
    You mean, tetraplegic orphans with not-that-great (for the setting, at least) prosthetics aren't normal?
    Not that great for the setting? Now I know you're not being serious. It's called out as being top grade goverment issue haxxor edition stuff that she could only possibly afford as a perk as long as she works for the section. (in both the film and series) That's, like, specifically a thing.

    Also, you seem to be under the misunderstanding that for some reason Rainbowdash is unemployed, despite being Ponyvilles weather-pony/head weather pony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiki Snakes View Post
    Also, you seem to be under the misunderstanding that for some reason Rainbowdash is unemployed, despite being Ponyvilles weather-pony/head weather pony.
    Isn't it odd that half of the main cast have government jobs (assuming Fluttershy is a Ranger/Warden). It's almost like somepony... PLANNED them to be assigned in the same town.

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