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2012-12-31, 10:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I'm feeling turn based and fantastical
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Have you actually played a Fire Emblem game?
EDIT: as far as recommendations go though, the only title i can think of that hasn't been mentioned yet(Unless im blind) is The Last Remnant - which i personally have interest in, but then again I've never actually played it myself so i suppose a genuine recommendation on that isn't possible. I do however second Battle for Wesnoth and the Heroes of Might and Magic series though.
EDIT2: i should also mention that The Last Remnant doesn't really have orcs, so if that's a deal-breaker then that recommendation is even more worthlessLast edited by Aragehaor; 2012-12-31 at 10:36 PM.
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2012-12-31, 11:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I'm feeling turn based and fantastical
To be entirely fair to Jade Dragon, I think by "the combat" he means the animation that plays when you order one unit to attack another. Which ignores that 100% of the game's complexity lies outside of this screen as you aren't even in control of what happens there, but I could imagine how someone could get a false impression if all they've seen are screencaps.
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2013-01-01, 12:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I'm feeling turn based and fantastical
Tried TLR at some point in the distant past. Maybe it's just my background, but I found it completely incomprehensible. If you've played Japanese style RPGs before you might have better luck.
Also, my insistence on orcs and elves was a joke. Elves shooting orcs seemed a useful descriptor for fantasy games as a whole.
I am PC only though. Should have said that.
And thanks all for the great suggestions. So far I'm looking at Avernum 6, various of the older Might and Magics, and, embarrassingly, this. Actually the expansion, because I've already played the base game. My shame knows no bounds.Blood-red were his spurs i' the golden noon; wine-red was his velvet coat,
When they shot him down on the highway,
Down like a dog on the highway,And he lay in his blood on the highway, with the bunch of lace at his throat.
Alfred Noyes, The Highwayman, 1906.
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2013-01-01, 12:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Can I reccomend Warlock:Master of the Arcane a second time? It is a 4x (is that the right term?) but has some rpg elements, in the heros. Very fun, and fast paced, unlike some others on the market.
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2013-01-01, 12:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I'm feeling turn based and fantastical
Don't mistake Might and Magic and Heroes of Might and Magic for each other. The former are straight RPGs. The latter are strategy games.
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2013-01-01, 12:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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I've gotten a lot of fun out of Warlock. It's the natural evolution of the already superlative Fantasy Wars/Elven Legacy games from tactical affairs into long-term strategy titles. Still need to pick up the last couple DLCs though, so that's an option. I've heard the Apocalypse DLC is really hard, is that true?
I also have to say Warlock is one of the best examples of post-release support this year. 1C took a good game, and made is really good. And most of the really important changes, like multiplayer, improved AI, and the lords/artifacts system are free.Blood-red were his spurs i' the golden noon; wine-red was his velvet coat,
When they shot him down on the highway,
Down like a dog on the highway,And he lay in his blood on the highway, with the bunch of lace at his throat.
Alfred Noyes, The Highwayman, 1906.
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2013-01-01, 01:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I'm feeling turn based and fantastical
My shame knows no bounds.
If you're primarily sticking to PC RPGs, I would also give pretty serious consideration to Winter Voices, a game on Steam that is kind of a puzzle-strategy RPG; you don't kill anything, at least in the first couple of episodes. Your goal is to survive fights and leave alive, not kill things. It's pretty nifty, but may not be your thing. It's also sold in very, very small packages, so you can get a shot - there's also a demo.
For heavier strategy with a strong character basis, Crusader Kings 2 MAY do you, but you don't sound like you're into it right now, so I guess I'll say no more.
Irrelevant natter about Dominions:
SpoilerThat was the price when I bought it two years ago from them, well after the '5 years' I said.
It is only $30 on Desura, and goes on sale fairly often.
The "5 years ago" is rather questionable also since they continaully add to it for free. The version now has a lot more in it than the 5 years ago version.
That might still be too much money for some.Last edited by RPGuru1331; 2013-01-01 at 02:14 AM.
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2013-01-01, 03:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I'm feeling turn based and fantastical
So... a turn-based tactics PC game with small squad/party tactical mechanics and individual unit customization, like Jagged Alliance or X-com... but high fantasy...
Someone make this game!!!
Well anyways, here's one nobody has mentioned yet: http://www.gog.com/gamecard/eador_genesis
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2013-01-01, 04:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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I came into this thread with the specific intention of saying Eador is a ridiculously brilliant fantasy strategy game that can be bought for ridiculously cheap.
It's just one of those games that you instantly know was a labor of love... the combat is always a tactical exercise, the campaign is well-written (and well-translated), the empire building is interesting, the graphics are gorgeous (if retro)...
I honestly could not recommend this game enough.It always amazes me how often people on forums would rather accuse you of misreading their posts with malice than re-explain their ideas with clarity.
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2013-01-01, 10:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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It is basically alright, one of those things made by a very small team with perhaps a bit more love and ambition than refined talent. Which is to say a good bit of fun, particularly if you very much have a shirts-optional policy. Since it's pretty much equal opportunity oggling, I don't object.
If you're primarily sticking to PC RPGs, I would also give pretty serious consideration to Winter Voices, a game on Steam that is kind of a puzzle-strategy RPG; you don't kill anything, at least in the first couple of episodes. Your goal is to survive fights and leave alive, not kill things. It's pretty nifty, but may not be your thing. It's also sold in very, very small packages, so you can get a shot - there's also a demo.
It's nonexistance baffles me. I mean just think of the possibilities - fighting orcs at night when they dynamically choose to attack your tavern, running a covert op to rescue somebody or other from an orc war party... the list just goes on. And with a decent tactical combat system that forces a variety of tactics, it'd be great.
I've been debating whether or not to pick Genesis up now, or wait for the jaw-droppingly gorgeous remake, but I think this sells me.Blood-red were his spurs i' the golden noon; wine-red was his velvet coat,
When they shot him down on the highway,
Down like a dog on the highway,And he lay in his blood on the highway, with the bunch of lace at his throat.
Alfred Noyes, The Highwayman, 1906.
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2013-01-01, 11:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-01-01, 11:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Well, it's not really a small group, and it'll eat up vast quantities of your time if you go for 100% completion, but I'm going to recommend Disgaea.
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2013-01-01, 03:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-01-01, 03:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I'm feeling turn based and fantastical
I'd be the judge of that. Dudes have a remarkably bad habit of not being capable of judging what dudes 'are' attractive.
I actually own these, snagged 'em on sale from GamersGate a while back, but for some reason can't get them to install right.Still trying to figure that out.
It's nonexistance baffles me. I mean just think of the possibilities - fighting orcs at night when they dynamically choose to attack your tavern, running a covert op to rescue somebody or other from an orc war party... the list just goes on. And with a decent tactical combat system that forces a variety of tactics, it'd be great.
Edit: What about high-fantasy mods of Mount and Blade? Granted, not turn-based, but...
I came into this thread with the specific intention of saying Eador is a ridiculously brilliant fantasy strategy game that can be bought for ridiculously cheap.Last edited by RPGuru1331; 2013-01-01 at 03:33 PM.
Asok: Shouldn't we actually be working?
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2013-01-01, 04:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Fair enough. I obviously can't speak with first hand experience what women like in their fanservice, and wasn't trying to - sorry if it came off that way. The point I was trying to (clumsily) make was that the clothing for both sexes tends to be equally impractical and exposing. Generally I abandon my high horse when the chainmail bikinis are offset by fur loincloths.
Shame. The setting and plot have a neat, not-oft-seen flavor.
That sounds more like Mount and Blade than normal for those kinds of games.
Edit: What about high-fantasy mods of Mount and Blade? Granted, not turn-based, but...Blood-red were his spurs i' the golden noon; wine-red was his velvet coat,
When they shot him down on the highway,
Down like a dog on the highway,And he lay in his blood on the highway, with the bunch of lace at his throat.
Alfred Noyes, The Highwayman, 1906.
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2013-01-01, 04:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Fair enough. I obviously can't speak with first hand experience what women like in their fanservice, and wasn't trying to - sorry if it came off that way. The point I was trying to (clumsily) make was that the clothing for both sexes tends to be equally impractical and exposing. Generally I abandon my high horse when the chainmail bikinis are offset by fur loincloths.
More or less, yes. But Mount & Blade owes a fair bit of its DNA to JA 2. And with smaller unit counts and full party control, the possibility for ambushes, creative use of buildings etc goes way up.Last edited by RPGuru1331; 2013-01-01 at 04:27 PM.
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2013-01-01, 04:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-01-01, 04:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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I started basically this thread not terribly long ago. Can't find it now, but most of these suggestions came up. Stuff I saw there the I haven't seen here:
-Titans of Steel. free, possibly buggy, incredibly complex and difficult. It's a battletech game.
-Megamek. A much simplified version of ToS. Stays true to the original board game rules. Has some online multiplayer communities.
-Advance Wars. Not PC, but there are 2 for DS and 2 for GBA, so if you've either of those systems you can look it up. These have got to be my favorite strategy games ever. If you've got the systems, any of the titles ought to be cheap if you can find em at a gamestop. I recommend black hole rising (number two) for GBA, and Days of Ruin( number four) for the DS."Thursdays. I could never get the hang of Thursdays."-Arthur Dent, The Hitchhiker's Guide
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2013-01-01, 04:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Dammit, I know there was an article on this somewhere...
To summarize the article (so I don't have to look for it): how the woman acts is more important than what she wears. Conan (the series, not the character) is sexist sometimes, with sexy women in underwear hiding behind him as he fights off bandits. But Sonja is a great warrior, as strong as Conan, so her concept isn't sexist, just fanservice-y.Avatar of George the Dragon Slayer, from the upcoming Indivisible!
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2013-01-01, 05:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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She isn't as strong as conan, and is frequently saved by him whenever he's around. That's why he's the main character and she has a spinoff. Further, although I don't disagree that how characters act is more important, that doesn't change that looks still matter in this context. It is still sexist only women are considered viable for looks fanservice, it is just less sexist than if they are only considered valuable for their looks (Which, you know, I've dealt with gaming fans for the majority of m y life, and is the standard in games)
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2013-01-01, 05:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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LPs that I like to think I will get back to some day.
To Make a Fan: Let's Play Final Fantasy
Let's Play Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones
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2013-01-01, 05:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-01-01, 06:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-01-01, 06:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Valid point. While again I obviously can't testify to what women look for in their vaguely anime style dudes, I'm reasonably sure this one isn't playing to straight guys. Don't get me wrong, I'd quite like abs that good, but at least most of my Awesome Man fantasies tend to have somewhat more hair. I'll settle for clearly sexualized, and probably not meant to do anything for me.
Does it? Nifty to know. I was more commenting on what you mentioned about the dynamically generated orcs and owning a tavern, since MnB does actually change the economy based on what you and bandits do.Blood-red were his spurs i' the golden noon; wine-red was his velvet coat,
When they shot him down on the highway,
Down like a dog on the highway,And he lay in his blood on the highway, with the bunch of lace at his throat.
Alfred Noyes, The Highwayman, 1906.
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2013-01-01, 07:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Ah. Well, most of my info on Sonja is taken from TVTropes.
Edit: Actually, I'm misremembering. The tropes page said that she was beaten by Conan, I thought it had said they had a draw.
I'm fine with Conan being stronger. The deal with the goddess included "can't sleep with anyone unless they beat you in combat", which means that it should be possible to beat her.
Conan in general isn't the best example for my argument. The guy who wrote the article mostly just posted D&D 4e pics.Last edited by Hiro Protagonest; 2013-01-01 at 07:11 PM.
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2013-01-01, 08:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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@ RPGuru1331:
So what kind of male characters are sexy for female readers, in a fantasy setting? Honest question because I'm a (hobby) comic book artist.
I already know women in chainmail bikini who contort themselves for the camera every frame is sexist. But I'm not talking about the women.
And I can see why Conan isn't sexy, what with that eternal snarl on his face. He looks like Anton Chigurh on steroids.
Reynard: I think this sort of game would be ideal for porting the D&D 4e ruleset to videogames. Maybe if enough people badger WotC we can get it done eventually.
Unless D&D 4e is significantly different than old D&D rules? 4e would translate well to Jagged Alliance style gameplay?
The one problem I see with a JA-style fantasy TBT game, is the prevalence of melee rather than range combat in fantasy. How would that translate into JA-style TBT?
I'm thinking a detailed melee system would need to be in place, more than "move fighter next to goblin archer, unsheath longsword +2, start mashing melee button." For example, shooting phase in X-com has "suppression fire, aimed shot, auto shot," etc. So, melee phase in this game should take real-life swordfighting techniques/tactics into account.
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2013-01-01, 08:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-01-01, 08:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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In the new X-Com game, can you...
(1) Action/Move/Action?
(2) Move/Action/Move?
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2013-01-01, 10:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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No, it's:
Move/Move
Move/Action
Action
Some classes can get abilities letting them do Action/Action, and Assaults can Move/Move/Action once every third turn.
@Snoopy13a: No, though Wii's are backwards compatible with Gamecube games. On the other hand, since they used the same connector for three consecutive system (SNES, N64, and GC) it's relatively cheap to acquire one.
Unless you want a component cable. If that's the case, just shell out for a Wii. It's cheaper and plays more games.