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    Default Re: OOTS death pool (thread #4)

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    1) No points are going out; no one actually died.
    2) You can't change your vote until someone dies.
    I forgot to mention, if the illusion wasn't an illusion, I suspect points would only go to those who bet on Belkar, since Belkar died before Mr. Scruffy or Xykon.

    Is that accurate, Sniffnoy? We should probably have a ruling just in case multiple people do die in one strip.
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    "The really unforgivable acts are committed by calm men in beautiful green silk rooms, who deal death wholesale, by the shipload, without lust, or anger, or desire, or any redeeming emotion to excuse them but cold fear of some pretended future. But the crimes they hope to prevent in the future are imaginary. The ones they commit in the present--they are real." --Aral Vorkosigan

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    9. If two characters are killed in the same strip, then points will be rewarded to anybody who bet on either character. For example, if Blackwing were to be eaten by a dog at the beginning of a strip and then V were to be killed by the same dog during the last panel of the same strip, then anybody who voted for either V or Blackwing would receive a point.
    THE SCRYING EYE AT THE END OF STRIP #698 WAS ZZ'DTRI'S (SOURCE)

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    Damn it! Now I have to rewrite the script for #917.
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    Default Re: OOTS death pool (thread #4)

    Missed that, thanks.
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    "The really unforgivable acts are committed by calm men in beautiful green silk rooms, who deal death wholesale, by the shipload, without lust, or anger, or desire, or any redeeming emotion to excuse them but cold fear of some pretended future. But the crimes they hope to prevent in the future are imaginary. The ones they commit in the present--they are real." --Aral Vorkosigan

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    Default Re: OOTS death pool (thread #4)

    Belker is the clear bet at this point. His predicted death is soon, if not overdue. However we are likely to have a big fight at the same time, and just about any of the LG might be eliminated a strip earlier. So don't bet the house on him.

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    Default Re: OOTS death pool (thread #4)

    My money is on Kilkil.

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    Default Re: OOTS death pool (thread #4)

    Quote Originally Posted by David Argall View Post
    Belker is the clear bet at this point. His predicted death is soon, if not overdue. However we are likely to have a big fight at the same time, and just about any of the LG might be eliminated a strip earlier. So don't bet the house on him.
    I'm going to take that as not a bet, then?
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    Xykon. But not permanently.

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    I'm going to take that as not a bet, then?
    Oh it's a bet, but only if the stakes are low [which they usually are around here.]

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    Default Re: OOTS death pool (thread #4)

    I bet Malack.

    I want to bet Belkar because he's got to kick the bucket one of these days, but I think it would cheapen Durkula AND his death to have them occur so close together. I also want to bet Nale, because I'm hoping Malack will kill him soon, but Nale is so much more relevant to the story than Malack that I imagine Nale would come out victorious. Somehow.

    I guess I should also consider that Malack seems to be obeying Durkon's last request, but I doubt that would stop the remaining OOTS from seeking extreme revenge of the ask-questions-later variety should they happen upon him again.

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    I bet for Malack.He killed Durkon,I will bet,he will die.HE SHALL NOT LIVE!
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    Default Re: OOTS death pool (thread #4)

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    I bet for Malack.
    I'll back him to take down Nale, who in my opinion is past his use-by date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniffnoy View Post
    Yeah, nobody actually died, no points are being awarded, in case that wasn't at all clear. I'll add it to the rulings section to prevent any further confusion.
    Sorry, I was just trying to make a math joke. I asked for i point (not 1 point) because the death was imaginary.

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    Default Re: OOTS death pool (thread #4)

    Given that we might well have a confrontation soon, I thought this would be an appropriate time to bring back this thread.

    I've also updated the appearance numbers to match the numbers from the appearances thread.
    The Order of the Stick death pool thread -- place your bets! (Yes, it's still ongoing and maintained.)

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    I'm betting Zz'drti. When team evil rolls in someone's getting dropped fast to up the stakes, and Zz'drti is the one with a combination of not enough relevance to the story to be affordable, along with having already served his purpose in helping V's character growth.

    Double irony when he gets killed by a spell resistance: yes spell from Xykon

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    What would happen if a character were to die in a dream/illusion, but the audience doesn't know it's fake at the time?
    THE SCRYING EYE AT THE END OF STRIP #698 WAS ZZ'DTRI'S (SOURCE)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gift Jeraff View Post
    What would happen if a character were to die in a dream/illusion, but the audience doesn't know it's fake at the time?
    Yeah... that's troublesome. (Some people didn't realize it was fake at first last time!) There doesn't really seem to be anything in the rules as to how to handle that. Suggestions? What are the options? I guess basically as I see it, they're:

    1. Just count it
    2. Count it, you can roll it back later
    3. Some sort of waiting period if we think it might be an illusion?
    4. ???

    Yuck. Right now I'm leaning towards #1, but if people have a preference, or other suggestions, well, I'm open to ideas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniffnoy View Post
    Yeah... that's troublesome. (Some people didn't realize it was fake at first last time!) There doesn't really seem to be anything in the rules as to how to handle that. Suggestions? What are the options? I guess basically as I see it, they're:

    1. Just count it
    2. Count it, you can roll it back later
    3. Some sort of waiting period if we think it might be an illusion?
    4. ???

    Yuck. Right now I'm leaning towards #1, but if people have a preference, or other suggestions, well, I'm open to ideas.
    The problem with #1 is that you have to draw a line between something that is obviously fake and something that might be plausible. Like you said, some people didn't realize it was fake last time, if that same situation comes up again, should we count it?

    I would prefer a combination of 2 and 3, count it right away (so people can make new bets) but don't update the first post until we are reasonably sure it wasn't fake. That way you get the advantages of 2, but potentially save some work updating and rolling back the first post.
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    #2 sounds best to me.
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    OK. So I figure, best way of implementing #2 would be something like this:

    If it might be an illusion, I'll make a private backup so I can roll it back later; then count it and keep going. Bets changed afterward will be rolled back. However, if someone entirely new bets, that won't be rolled back, but I will allow them to change it if they want.

    The alternative I guess is something like this, but instead of a private backup, the first post acts as the "backup", and my private version acts as the "real version"? (Except it's not the "real version" in this scheme, it's the, uh, speculative version.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniffnoy View Post
    OK. So I figure, best way of implementing #2 would be something like this:

    If it might be an illusion, I'll make a private backup so I can roll it back later; then count it and keep going. Bets changed afterward will be rolled back. However, if someone entirely new bets, that won't be rolled back, but I will allow them to change it if they want.

    The alternative I guess is something like this, but instead of a private backup, the first post acts as the "backup", and my private version acts as the "real version"? (Except it's not the "real version" in this scheme, it's the, uh, speculative version.)
    Both of those sound good
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    Default Re: OOTS death pool (thread #4)

    Nale really seems to be doing his Swan song right now.
    And once again, Probability proves itself willing to sneak into a back alley and service Drama as would a copper-piece harlot.

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    Default Re: OOTS death pool (thread #4)

    OK, added rule 13 to cover this.

    I figure, if an earlier death is only revealed to have been an illusion after some later death occurs, it's too late to go rolling things back...
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    Default Re: OOTS death pool (thread #4)

    Belkar is the obvious pick, but I'll go with Nale instead.

    wrt the possibility of illusions, I'd say that during the remainder of this storyline, waiting 1-2 more strips before restarting the death pool makes some sense. There doesn't seem to be much indication that Rich is going to spend substantial time in between a death and the reveal of an illusion, but a slight wait make some sense (to me anyway).

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    Default Re: OOTS death pool (thread #4)

    Nale is one of the more obvious choices.
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    Before anyone asks: No, this doesn't count as a death for Vaarsuvius.
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    Alright, I'm in baby! And all my hard-earned monopoly-money is on Nale. His death is long overdue.
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    Default Re: OOTS death pool (thread #4)

    I'll change my bet to Nale as well.

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    I want in on this!

    I place my vote on Nale!
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    Default Re: OOTS death pool (thread #4)

    And there are now as many bets on Nale as there are on Zz'dtri...
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    Default Re: OOTS death pool (thread #4)

    Can anyone just waltz in here and bet? If so, I bet on Sabine.

    Wait, did her dismissal with "holy" count as dying?

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