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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronos View Post
    Dreadlocks first appeared in 935. I think he's already listed as "...with black skin", but I think the dreadlocks are probably more descriptive.
    I agree. We've seen several Mechane crewmen with black skin, but only one with dreadlocks.
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    I agree. We've seen several Mechane crewmen with black skin, but only one with dreadlocks.
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    944: Roy Greenhilt, V

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    Updated through 944
    Roy Greenhilt, Vaarsuvius

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    According to the list Snarl is appeared in five strips, but I only find four. Is that a mistake or did I miss something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by martianmister View Post
    According to the list Snarl is appeared in five strips, but I only find four. Is that a mistake or did I miss something?
    Is that counting his appearance in RC's telling of his side of the story?

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    Just Googled it: #411, Panel 5 was counted as an appearance of the Snarl: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showp...&postcount=137

    I'm not sure if it is, though. I assumed it was a magical rune or sigil of some sort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_Wolf_c View Post
    Is that counting his appearance in RC's telling of his side of the story?

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    Just Googled it: #411, Panel 5 was counted as an appearance of the Snarl: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showp...&postcount=137
    It was my guess as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gift Jeraff View Post
    Just Googled it: #411, Panel 5 was counted as an appearance of the Snarl: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showp...&postcount=137

    I'm not sure if it is, though. I assumed it was a magical rune or sigil of some sort.
    I'm sure it is not the snarl - I think the squiggle is the rift, contained within the jewel. But good find, I would not have thought that would've been counted.

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    The same comic says that the Snarl was literally looking over Shojo's shoulder. I say it counts.
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    I say it counts as well. There is definitely something there, and if it isn't the snarl, then what else is it?
    Also, Wrecan counted it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronos View Post
    The same comic says that the Snarl was literally looking over Shojo's shoulder. I say it counts.
    Figurative speech is figurative. Yes, I too dislike the use of "literally" to mean "figuratively", but them's the breaks. We have seen what the Snarl looks like, and the squiggle in the middle of the saphire wasn't it - it is a rift.

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    I say it counts as well. There is definitely something there, and if it isn't the snarl, then what else is it?
    It's the rift.

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    Also, Wrecan counted it...
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    I must say I agree with Grey Wolf on this one.
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    So do I, especially with the Snarl's absence from the rifts being a plot point.
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    946: Bandana (+1), Belkar Bitterleaf (+1), Blackwing (+1), Durkon Thundershield (as vampire) (as trapped spirit) (+1), Elan (+1), Haley Starshine (+1), Hel (+1), Julio Scoundrél, Mr. Scruffy (+1), Roy Greenhilt (+1), Vaarsuvius (+1)

    Should we have a new appearance entry for Durkon's spirit? I added it in case.
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    Neither of them look like previously seen souls. Actually, the redhead bears a startling resemblance to "Kaboom" Redaxe, but there's probably no relation.

    ...Hopefully, there's no relation.
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    Yeah, I just went back and checked both of Hel's prior appearances. Neither dwarf fits the bill. Wishful thinking on my part.

    Edit: I totally didn't forget to add Julio in the first panel. No siree.
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    So... since Durkon's not in control, should we be treating Durkula as a separate entity? (Of course, since he's in the form of Durkon, it would be an appearance for him as well.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    So... since Durkon's not in control, should we be treating Durkula as a separate entity? (Of course, since he's in the form of Durkon, it would be an appearance for him as well.)
    I'd say yes.
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    The trick is figuring out what to name him. "Vampire servant of Hel" is the only option that doesn't really involve silly fan nicknames like "Durkula", "Count Thundershield", or "Durk Malackssen", but it's kinda cumbersome.

    Personally, I'd vote for just keeping it as "Durkon Thundershield (as vampire)" until we're given an actual name for the spirit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel Bob View Post
    The trick is figuring out what to name him. "Vampire servant of Hel" is the only option that doesn't really involve silly fan nicknames like "Durkula", "Count Thundershield", or "Durk Malackssen", but it's kinda cumbersome.

    Personally, I'd vote for just keeping it as "Durkon Thundershield (as vampire)" until we're given an actual name for the spirit.
    "High Priest of Hel", maybe?
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    "High Priest of Hel", maybe?
    As it was an official/capitalized title in the comic, I'd go with this.
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    But should appearances of "High Priest of Hel" also count as appearances for "Durkon Thundershield (as vampire)"? Or only the times when he is shown as a spirit like in 946?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 137ben View Post
    But should appearances of "High Priest of Hel" also count as appearances for "Durkon Thundershield (as vampire)"? Or only the times when he is shown as a spirit like in 946?
    Since he's actively pretending to be the real Durkon, I think past precedent would suggest it counts as an appearance for both of them.
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    Thog got appearances added to his count when Tarkie was pretending to be him, so Durkon should keep getting appearances so long as High Priest Of Hel is masquerading as him.

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    Also, it's Durkon's body no matter who is controlling it. Even corpses are counted as appearances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yana View Post
    946: Bandana (+1), Belkar Bitterleaf (+1), Blackwing (+1), Durkon Thundershield (as vampire) (as trapped spirit) (+1), Elan (+1), Haley Starshine (+1), Hel (+1), Julio Scoundrél, Mr. Scruffy (+1), Roy Greenhilt (+1), Vaarsuvius (+1)

    Should we have a new appearance entry for Durkon's spirit? I added it in case.
    Is the giant dog/wolf there recognizable enough as Garmr? Or is it, as a lot people are saying elsewhere, Fenrir? Anyone have any arguments either way which one this is?
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    Is the giant dog/wolf there recognizable enough as Garmr? Or is it, as a lot people are saying elsewhere, Fenrir? Anyone have any arguments either way which one this is?
    I'd say the evidence looks pretty good for its being Garmr, though Fenrir is better known.
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    Wait, there are multiple named giant wolves of NorseNorthern mythology? How would we tell which is which?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronos View Post
    Wait, there are multiple named giant wolves of NorseNorthern mythology? How would we tell which is which?
    According to the original myth, one is sleeping around the world tree, the other guards Hel. The only reason why not everyone is accepting that that one is Gamr is because Fenrir is the more famous of the two (I myself immediately jumped to the wrong one, actually).

    But reading on Gamr, yeah, it's obvious its him. Now, the question is: what the hell are the blue dwarf-giants in the back?

    Edit: also, Gamr is a dog, rather than a wolf

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