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    Belkar Bitterleaf, Elan, Haley Starshine, Mr. Scruffy, Redcloak (with one eye), Roy Greenhilt, Xykon
    You forgot Vaarsuvius.

    And for the record, if we assume the last panel is the only real one (which seems probable), then Mr. Scruffy also only appears as an illusion, as he is not visible in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ti'esar View Post
    You forgot Vaarsuvius.

    And for the record, if we assume the last panel is the only real one (which seems probable), then Mr. Scruffy also only appears as an illusion, as he is not visible in it.
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    Given that the heroes appear to be just standing in place and drooling, everything they're doing would be an illusion, too (i.e., they're not actually running around and swinging at phantasms). So this should probably count as an (as illusion) alteration for everyone.
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    Updated through 886
    Belkar Bitterleaf (+1) (charmed?), Elan (+1) (charmed?), Haley Starshine (+1) (charmed?), Mr. Scruffy, Redcloak (+1) (with one eye) (his illusion with wrong eye), Roy Greenhilt (+1) (charmed?), Vaarsuvius (+1), Xykon (+1)

    Considering that there's no actual visual alteration, I'm not sure about adding (as illusion) tag.
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    I don't see Mr. Scruffy on the second page.
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    Should we count Belkar, Haley, Elan and Roy as charmed? Or something else?

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    Considering that there's no actual visual alteration, I'm not sure about adding (as illusion) tag.
    Not all illusions involve an actual visual alteration. What's happening here is a perfect fit for the Illusion (Phantasm) subschool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martianmister View Post
    Considering that there's no actual visual alteration, I'm not sure about adding (as illusion) tag.
    Of course there's a visual alteration. Roy looks like he is swinging his sword at Xykon, but he is actually standing still. And so on.
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    Blimey. (deep breath)

    887: Banjo, Belkar (as statue), Bozzok, Celia, Durkon, Elan, Eugene, Eyepatched Resistance Leader, Geoff, Haley, Hank, Hinjo, Ian, Jirix, Julia, Knot-topped Resistance Leader, Lien, Malack, Monster in the Darkness, Mr. Scruffy (as statue), Nale, Niu, O-Chul, Redcloak, Roy (as statue), Tarquin, Thanh, Tsukiko, Vaarsuvius, Xykon (as phylactery and statue)

    I think that's everyone. (EDIT: Added Geoff.)

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    They also all get a "as illusion" alternate form.
    I don't think it's clear exactly what this is, if it's an illusion or a dream or whatever. (Whatever it is, if it was up to me, I'd just group everyone together in one entry.)
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    They also all get a "as illusion" alternate form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yendor View Post
    Blimey. (deep breath)

    887: Banjo, Belkar (as statue), Bozzok, Celia, Durkon, Elan, Eugene, Eyepatched Resistance Leader, Haley, Hank, Hinjo, Ian, Jirix, Julia, Knot-topped Resistance Leader, Lien, Malack, Monster in the Darkness, Mr. Scruffy (as statue), Nale, Niu, O-Chul, Redcloak, Roy (as statue), Tarquin, Thanh, Tsukiko, Vaarsuvius, Xykon (as phylactery and statue)

    I think that's everyone.
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    Belkar (dead), Roy (normal), Geoff, and a new entry for the Girlfriend of Banjo (Viola? Ukeleley?)!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuPuWei View Post
    Also,

    Belkar (dead), Roy (normal), Geoff, and a new entry for the Girlfriend of Banjo (Viola? Ukeleley?)!!!
    Belkar dead is a corpse, which is not counted. Banjo's Girlfriend is a nameless character with only one appearance, and so is not counted.

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    Eugene Greenhelt should get an "Angel" or "With wings" alteration.

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    Belkar (dead), Roy (normal), Geoff, and a new entry for the Girlfriend of Banjo (Viola? Ukeleley?)!!!
    We don't track corpses as alterations, and when someone gets listed as "[Name], [Alteration]" in an update, they recieve one appearance as normal and plus one alteration. "Normal" isn't something we need to keep track on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cizak View Post
    Eugene Greenhelt should get an "Angel" or "With wings" alteration.



    We don't track corpses as alterations, and when someone gets listed as "[Name], [Alteration]" in an update, they recieve one appearance as normal and plus one alteration. "Normal" isn't something we need to keep track on.
    I see. It just seemed like it would lead to the impression that Roy appeared only as a statue. Of course, given the nature of the final statistics the redundancy should have been obvious. My bad.

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    Banjo, Belkar Bitterleaf (as Statue), Bozzok, Celia, Durkon Thundershield, Elan, Eugene Greenhilt (with wings), Eyepatched Resistance Leader, Geoff, Haley Starshine, Hank, Hinjo, Ian Starshine, Jirix, Julia Greenhilt, Knot-topped Resistance Leader, Lien, Malack, Monster in the Darkness, Mr. Scruffy (as Statue), Nale, Niu, O-Chul, Redcloak (with One Eye) (his illusion with wrong eye), Roy Greenhilt (as Statue), Tarquin, Ho Thanh, Tsukiko, Vaarsuvius, Xykon (as Phylactery) (as Statue)
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    Quote Originally Posted by martianmister View Post
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    Banjo, Belkar Bitterleaf (as Statue), Bozzok, Celia, Durkon Thundershield, Elan, Eugene Greenhilt (as Angel), Eyepatched Resistance Leader, Geoff, Haley Starshine, Hank, Hinjo, Ian Starshine, Jirix, Julia Greenhilt, Knot-topped Resistance Leader, Lien, Malack, Monster in the Darkness, Mr. Scruffy (as Statue), Nale, Niu, O-Chul, Redcloak (with One Eye), Roy Greenhilt (as Statue), Tarquin, Ho Thanh, Tsukiko, Vaarsuvius, Xykon (as Phylactery) (as Statue)
    Eugene is not an angel. You don't magically turn into a Solar when your oath is fulfilled and you get to go to heaven.
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    You forgot the "Redcloak's illusion with wrong eye" alteration. It has one appearance right now, but should have two.
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    I think the appropriate listing for Eugene would be "as petitioner". That's the D&D term for souls that are currently making their way through the appropriate afterlife.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronos View Post
    I think the appropriate listing for Eugene would be "as petitioner". That's the D&D term for souls that are currently making their way through the appropriate afterlife.
    That's good. Should Roy's dead appearances be listed that way, too?
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    Eugene is not an angel. You don't magically turn into a Solar when your oath is fulfilled and you get to go to heaven.
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    You forgot the "Redcloak's illusion with wrong eye" alteration. It has one appearance right now, but should have two.
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    That's good. Should Roy's dead appearances be listed that way, too?
    I'd say no, because he had no visual alteration, but that hasn't always been the rule in the past.

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    What would be your choice?
    "With white wings" is an accurate description of the visual alteration.

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    888: Celia, Roy, Vaarsuuvius, Durkon, Elan, Tarquin, Elan's Mum, Nale, Kikil, Thog, Leeky, Z'zdriti, Malack (as Bishop), Haley, Sabine (human form), Empress of Blood, Banjo, Banjo's Love Interest, Sir Francois, Inkyrius

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    #888: Banjo, Banjo's Love Interest, Celia, Durkon Thundershield, Elan, Elan's Mother, Empress of Blood, Haley Starshine, Inkyrius, Kilkil, Leeky Windstaff, Malack, Nale, Roy Greenhilt, Sabine (as bridesmaid), Sir Francois Tarquin, Thog, Vaarsuvius, Zz'dtri.

    That's the second appearance of Banjo's Love Interest.
    I have no idea if the kobold next to Zz'dtri is supposed to be Yukyuk or just a new nameless kobold-slot-filler.
    Does this require a name change for Elan's Mother? Right now we're calling her Elan's Mom, but since it's spelt with capital letters in this comic Elan's Mother seems to be the closest thing she's got to a name.

    EDIT: @Sunken Valley: Regarding Malack, we don't track costume changes. Regarding Sabine, she has taken many different "human forms", but as far as I can see we track every different one by a distinct name, since they are all different transformations. She doesn't use one human forms and changes clothes, the clothes are part of the transformation.
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    And all of those should have an alteration for "as illusion". Except for Banjo's Love Interest, I suppose, since "as illusion" is her normal form.
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    Sabine (human form)
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    EDIT: @Sunken Valley: Regarding Sabine, she has taken many different "human forms", but as far as I can see we track every different one by a distinct name, since they are all different transformations. She doesn't use one human forms and changes clothes, the clothes are part of the transformation.
    Btw, we can still see her tail. Does that count as human-with-tail or demonic-without-wings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cizak View Post
    I have no idea if the kobold next to Zz'dtri is supposed to be Yukyuk or just a new nameless kobold-slot-filler.
    The Order explicitly knows Yukyuk is dead, so it's presumably not him.

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    It might be Yakyak, who V accidentally confused with Yukyuk in strip 790...

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    It could also be Yekyek or Ysometimesykysometimesyk.
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    I think it is indeed a filler kobold, because in Elan's mind the Linear Guild need a kobold amongst its ranks, so he dreams of one (he hadn't quite noticed that Kilkil now fill the spot, rather still associating the winged kobold with his father's retinue).
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