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    That's actually a good question: does "High Priestess of Hoder" count as a "name" as far as this thread is concerned? It's technically not a name, but it's an actual explicit title as opposed to just some descriptor we made up.

    Of course, it's very possibly a moot point, since we're likely to see more of this pilgrimage.
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    Is it just me or have we seen that red-haired cleric before? He looks familiar. But I may just be misremembering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniffnoy View Post
    Is it just me or have we seen that red-haired cleric before? He looks familiar. But I may just be misremembering.
    I'm pretty sure we haven't, although I think he shares his hairstyle with the CPPD deputy.
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    I'm guessing the Giant's quote about their only being so many hair styles in a stick figure comic probably applies here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ti'esar View Post
    That's actually a good question: does "High Priestess of Hoder" count as a "name" as far as this thread is concerned? It's technically not a name, but it's an actual explicit title as opposed to just some descriptor we made up.
    The King of Nowhere is also listed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joerg View Post
    The King of Nowhere is also listed.
    So's the Weeping King, also with only one appearance.

    Again, I expect it won't matter because we'll eventually see these clerics again, but it sounds like there's precedent to list the High Priestess of Hoder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ti'esar View Post
    That's actually a good question: does "High Priestess of Hoder" count as a "name" as far as this thread is concerned? It's technically not a name, but it's an actual explicit title as opposed to just some descriptor we made up.
    Titles are not actual names. So, no.

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    I believe wrecan's method was to include any character that's been given a capitalized title/nickname, such as Shlubbo Noname-zaki. The King of Nowhere counted because earlier strips referred to him as such with capital letters.
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    Nobility and royalty are often referred to by the name of their realm. When I say "Kelvin was the first to determine the value of absolute zero", nobody is going to correct me and say "Who's Kelvin? You mean William Thompson". The same is not true of high priests: I would not say "The Catholic Church visited the US" if I meant the Pope.
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    Oh, and
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    Durkon Thundershield (as vampire), High Priest of Hel (as Durkon), Roy Greenhilt, Veldrina, Wrecan
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    Oh my god he named a character Wrecan.

    I might cry.


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    At least the former thread runner will live on forever in both our hearts and the comic now.
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    And so the counter of character appearances becomes the counted character appearance.
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    And the Giant said they will be sticking around for awhile, so he will eventually be upgraded beyond 'cameos'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronos View Post
    Nobility and royalty are often referred to by the name of their realm. When I say "Kelvin was the first to determine the value of absolute zero", nobody is going to correct me and say "Who's Kelvin? You mean William Thompson". The same is not true of high priests: I would not say "The Catholic Church visited the US" if I meant the Pope.
    Just a question: If I would say "The Pope visited the US", would you ask me "Which Pope"?

    In my eyes such titles can be interchangeable used with the name of the person currently holding that title. I would say that both "King of Nowhere" and "Weeping King" clearly are such titles. The argument I could understand is that the comic used "Hoder's high priestess", so it isn't 100% clear whether that is such a title or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianSt View Post
    Just a question: If I would say "The Pope visited the US", would you ask me "Which Pope"?

    In my eyes such titles can be interchangeable used with the name of the person currently holding that title. I would say that both "King of Nowhere" and "Weeping King" clearly are such titles. The argument I could understand is that the comic used "Hoder's high priestess", so it isn't 100% clear whether that is such a title or not.
    I suppose it comes down to whether there's only one high priestess at any given time.


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    Durkon Thundershield (as Vampire), High Priest of Hel (as Durkon), Roy Greenhilt, Veldrina, Wrecan

    Let's hope Wrecan get more appearances as he can.

    Also, Durkon ascends to a higher place on the list.
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    Holy carp, you're right! Durkon has passed Vaarsuvius!
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    I believe wrecan's method was to include any character that's been given a capitalized title/nickname...The King of Nowhere counted because earlier strips referred to him as such with capital letters.
    I just made some re/search and found that Wrecan and I thought same way:

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    It seems that he only add it because others wanted it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by martianmister View Post
    I just made some re/search and found that Wrecan and I thought same way:

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    It seems that he only add it because others wanted it.
    Yes, consensus was clearly in favour of including it. I suppose we could hold a new vote, in case opinions have shifted since then, but as it stands, I think we should include the Head Cleric of Hoder for consistency's sake, and also because I don't think there will be more than one ("Head" as a title usually requires just the one, unless the species has more than one head per individual body).

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    So would an Ettin temple have two head clerics, then?


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    So would an Ettin temple have two head clerics, then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    So would an Ettin temple have two head clerics, then?
    Probably - but they would likely not be the top echelon of the temple. That would be the Heart Cleric, or something similarly unique to the body.

    Or maybe Ettins, Dread Linnorms, Warcraft Ogres and other bicephalic species have figured out a way to have two leaders working in parallel, in which case they could both be the top echelons. Happily, that is not the case for this Head Cleric of Hoder.

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    At the risk of interrupting this digression, I have to point out that the head cleric of Hoder and high priestess of Hoder are not synonymous. The head cleric was the gnome with the blue miter who spoke to Roy and "Durkon", and he already has multiple appearances. The high priestess was a human who only appeared (at least so far) in one panel of 985.
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    Yeah, I think this is a matter for thread consensus, not for curatorial executive decision-making. I personally think "high priest of Hoder" clearly counts as a title, as it's a unique position, equivalent to Pope in our own world. "High Priest of X" has been capitalized elsewhere, and the fact that The Giant didn't bother to do so here seems like a poor reason not to include said character.
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    I'm thinking it's more likely that the Tiger is just called "Whiskers" and that Veldrina is describing them as "little", which is then capitalised as it's the start of a sentence.
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    Out of curiosity, is Wrecan's boldface font a gesture of respect to him specifically, or is establishment of a convention that real people from our world get bolded? Because he's not the first real person to appear in the strip.

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