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    Default So, Xykon remembers Roy?

    At least he remembers something. Is this a sign of respect or that the Lich takes him at least a bit serious?

    Roy has tussled directly with Xykon twice by now and they, at their last meeting, had a long talk where Xykon recognized Roy as some sort of necessitiy for himself, as the Hero that makes the Villain to actually be the villain.
    When he killed Roy, this is confirmed by The Giant, he did it with a certain respect.

    So, how much is Xykon going to remember?

    I also think there's some sort of Teamup coming. The Order has no other choice. If they now fight Team Evil, then Tarquin will grab the gate (even if they win). The smart thing would be to team up with the evil they know to the stop the evil they do not know, especially if the evil they do not know has already stombed your own team twice and made sure you have no chance. Is Roy going to turn Xykon as weapon against Tarquin?
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    Default Re: So, Xykon remembers Roy?

    Of course he remembers Roy. He's that guy. You know, the one who kept getting pissed off about, um, something:

    http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0430.html

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    Default Re: So, Xykon remembers Roy?

    I don't think Xykon pays enough attention to know Roy by name yet...but he definitely remembers this guy, whoever he is. The one who jacked up his ride last time.

    Xykon enjoys being opposed by heroes because they are interesting and give him something to do. He can never rest, he's awake 24/7 and he has to fill those hours with something. Besides, whenever he fights a hero, he always wins.
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    Default Re: So, Xykon remembers Roy?

    It seems pretty likely to me that this Xykon is an illusion: perhaps a shadow or a phantasm (such that it can deal real damage to the party and even kill them unless they disbelieve). This is what the runes along the wall were for: they read the thoughts of the party and presented them with their greatest fear.

    Girard was an epic illusionist, and this is exactly what we'd expect for his final defense of his gate.
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    We will see if its an illusion or not depending on the next panel. If Redcloak lacks his Eyepatch then we know whats coming.
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    Default Re: So, Xykon remembers Roy?

    Given that he remembered Roy last time, why wouldn't he this time?

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    I think it seems pretty likely that these guys are illusion, but we can't know for sure. I think that if Redcloak does have an eye-patch, then they're real. The Cloister prevents them from being scryed upon (unless Girard's epic spells can pierce the Cloister) so illusions of Xykon and Redcloak will appear as the Order knows them. Another indicator will be Redcloak's holy symbol; the new one is a different shape than Xykon's phylactery.
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    Default Re: So, Xykon remembers Roy?

    Of course. He's the guy who won him a prize on World's Funniest Protagonist Deaths.
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    Of course Xykon remembers Bluepommel. He just doesn't pay enough attention to remember his name is Yellowedge. Redguard* will just have to deal with it.

    *TES reference unplanned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roland Itiative View Post
    Of course Xykon remembers Bluepommel. He just doesn't pay enough attention to remember his name is Yellowedge. Redguard* will just have to deal with it.

    *TES reference unplanned.
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    Default Re: So, Xykon remembers Roy?

    Xykon would also remember the buddy roy song. Which he sings part of in the strip after it is sung.

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    Looks like Roy has found replacement casters for his party.



    Edit: Actually even if Xykon doesn't remember who they are, Redcloak will recognize them. He did all the way back in Comic 426.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scowling Dragon View Post
    We will see if its an illusion or not depending on the next panel. If Redcloak lacks his Eyepatch then we know whats coming.
    Does Roy know about Redcloak's eyepatch? O-chul definitely had a meeting with the Order... http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0670.html

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    But they don't know about Xykon and Redcloak's personal drama. Even if O-Chul did tell them about the eye, they would've assumed he could easily Regenerate it. Unless the Resistance told Hinjo who told the OOTS for some reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by durron597 View Post
    Does Roy know about Redcloak's eyepatch? O-chul definitely had a meeting with the Order... http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0670.html
    O-Chul would not expect a high level cleric like Redcloak to *not* have cast Regenerate to restore his eye, and he certainly wasn't present when Xykon ordered him not to--so he wouldn't have said anything about an eyepatch.

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    Default Re: So, Xykon remembers Roy?

    Its not that he recognizes Roy

    He recognizes Elan, because he looks like Nale, who worked with Team Evil.

    If only because that would piss off Roy even more
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunken Valley View Post
    Xykon would also remember the buddy roy song. Which he sings part of in the strip after it is sung.

    Not exactly. He riffs on it - "Oh Guy I killed...." At no point does he use Roy's name.
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    Default Re: So, Xykon remembers Roy?

    Someone has already pointed out that the Order is lucky V's not with them. Xykon remembers Roy as that annoying guy with a sword who keeps getting mad at him for some reason... but I think he remembers V much better and in much worse context.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morty View Post
    Someone has already pointed out that the Order is lucky V's not with them. Xykon remembers Roy as that annoying guy with a sword who keeps getting mad at him for some reason... but I think he remembers V much better and in much worse context.
    Why would he remember V?

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    The big fight? Where V and O-Chul escape from him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamishspence View Post
    The big fight? Where V and O-Chul escape from him?
    ....I totally did not forget about that, and I totally was not thinking about how V didn't do anything to Xykon in DCF or WaXP

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    Quote Originally Posted by 137ben View Post
    Why would he remember V?
    That elf who seriously tried to challenge his reputation and made Xykon actually take the fight seriously enough to use an Epic spell... No, no reason to remember V at all.
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    Default Re: So, Xykon remembers Roy?

    He always remembers him, but doesn't know his name. He remembers him as oh that guy, or that one who was mad at him for taking something.

    He is real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintRidley View Post
    That elf who seriously tried to challenge his reputation and made Xykon actually take the fight seriously enough to use an Epic spell... No, no reason to remember V at all.
    More importantly, the elf who was suddenly whisked away when Xykon was about to turn him into a smoking crater.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morty View Post
    More importantly, the elf who was suddenly whisked away when Xykon was about to turn him into a smoking crater.
    And who he assumed was dead (he asked who stole his kills, not who saved them).

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    And who he assumed was dead (he asked who stole his kills, not who saved them).
    Well, kill stealing doesn't necessarily imply killing them. When Xykon next sees V, he'll be pissed beyond belief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintRidley View Post
    Well, kill stealing doesn't necessarily imply killing them. When Xykon next sees V, he'll be pissed beyond belief.
    I assumed it meant "killing someone who I was about to kill," but I suppose it doesn't make any differences.
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    Default Re: So, Xykon remembers Roy?

    He's an illusion, that's why he can remember Roy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Admiral View Post
    It seems pretty likely to me that this Xykon is an illusion: perhaps a shadow or a phantasm (such that it can deal real damage to the party and even kill them unless they disbelieve). This is what the runes along the wall were for: they read the thoughts of the party and presented them with their greatest fear.

    Girard was an epic illusionist, and this is exactly what we'd expect for his final defense of his gate.
    I think that runes say "No Secret Message".
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    Wild crazy theory time:


    Xykon is not an illusion. He has, however, been trudging through a dungeon full of illusions.
    He thinks Roy is an illusion.

    Pretty crazy, huh? Well, here's the twist: "Not this guy again" means Xykon has been running into dozens of illusory Roys, and he's tired of it.

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