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    ok, i made a medium sized titan, to play in a campain
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    (new DM, thinks he's amazing at D&D, then told us we could play any race/class, and use any templates we wish, as long as none of our stats exceed 50 , oh, and level adjustments and racial hit die dont matter...)


    so, i just took a titan and applied the miniature template (book of templates) until it was medium
    and i figure posting on the playground is the best way to get some honest criticism

    5d8

    +6 dex
    +16 str
    +16 con
    +16 wis
    +10 int
    +14 cha

    Height 6ft 3in
    weight 218lb

    Land base speed: 40ft

    Mini Titans speak Abyssal, Common, Celestial, Draconic, and Giant

    Damage reduction 15/lawful
    darkvision 60 ft
    spell resistance 32
    Powerful build (ex)
    A mini titan’s natural weapons, as well as any weapons it wields, are treated as chaotic-aligned for the purpose of overcoming damage reduction.


    Spell like abilities
    At will—chain lightning (DC 23), charm monster(DC 21), cure critical wounds (DC 21), fire storm (DC 24), greater dispel magic, hold monster (DC 22), invisibility, invisibility purge, levitate, persistent image (DC 22), polymorph (humanoid forms only, duration 1 hour)
    3/day—etherealness, word of chaos (DC 22), summon nature’s ally IX
    1/day—gate, maze, meteor swarm (DC 26). Caster level 20th. The save DCs are Charisma-based.

    In addition, mini titans of good or neutral alignment can use the following
    additional spell-like abilities:
    At will—daylight, holy smite (DC 21), remove curse (DC 21)
    1/day—greater restoration.
    Caster level 20th. The save DCs are Charisma-based


    Feats: Awesome Blow, Blind-Fight, Cleave, Improved Bull Rush, Improved Sunder, Power Attack, Quicken Spell-Like Ability (chain lightning)



    i'm pretty sure i'll have to fix up the feats, save DC for spells, caster level, and hit die

    any contributions are appreciated (yes, even destructive criticism)

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    no offense: but how long has your DM been DMing? this is crazy! Nice job using that template though, I love that book
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    What ECL would that be?
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    here lemme do the math for a sec:

    altogether ECL 25...thats including rhd btw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yora View Post
    What ECL would that be?
    i dont know what it's ecl would be, but i know this much, it's pretty bloody high, but i made it even worse, by using approximately half of the book of templates and savage species, and some of MMI

    and making a "winged, savage, half gold dragon, half silver dragon, half bronze dragon, half brass dragon, half copper dragon, half troll, thermic elemental, water elemental, earth elemental, mini-titan, dreadnaught, aberrant" level 5 wizard
    then i took the lost traditions feat, and made my main casting stat strength (by the way, half dragon is +8 str, each time you apply it~) i ended up with 86 str (hence why he said we cant go above 50 in any stat)

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    so my post says ECL 25:

    5 RHD: 5
    massive ability bonuses: 7
    Caster Level 20: 11
    DR: 14
    SR: egads? 17
    SLAs: 21
    other misc: 25 did i do that right
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    Quote Originally Posted by inuyasha View Post
    so my post says ECL 25:

    5 RHD: 5
    massive ability bonuses: 7
    Caster Level 20: 11
    DR: 14
    SR: egads? 17
    SLAs: 21
    other misc: 25 did i do that right
    i gave up on that kinda stuff for this campaing, but it sounds about right

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    Your name feels extremely appropriate to both this campaign in this character. Why not make it Paragon and Pseudonatural as well, given that you're already punching reality in the face with sheer cojones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vadskye View Post
    Your name feels extremely appropriate to both this campaign in this character. Why not make it Paragon and Pseudonatural as well, given that you're already punching reality in the face with sheer cojones?
    my DM decided i had to remove 4 of the half dragons, and the earth elemental
    but paragon and pseudonatural sound fun, do you know what books they're in, so i can try to find them?

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    I believe those are in the Epic Level Handbook

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaotic stupid View Post
    my DM decided i had to remove 4 of the half dragons, and the earth elemental
    but paragon and pseudonatural sound fun, do you know what books they're in, so i can try to find them?
    they are in the ELH, but I think Vadskye was being sarcastic and basically saying, eh its crazy enough why not make it a little more so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by inuyasha View Post
    they are in the ELH, but I think Vadskye was being sarcastic and basically saying, eh its crazy enough why not make it a little more so.
    Yup! But hey, if the DM lets him get away with it, it will certainly a character to remember...

    I just feel really, really bad for Bob the New Player who is rolling a level 1 fighter in the same game.

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    we have a half-fire elemental, spectral newbie ( i use the term loosely, he has played, just not that much)

    a winged-elf vampire (newbie)

    a halfling rogue (newbie)

    a human saint cleric (newbie)

    and me, the only person who has played a campaing for any amount of time longer than an hour (and that includes the DM..)
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    In that case, I would seriously advise not playing something as dumb as the miniminititan. Because, yes, it's a fun thought exercise. But if the DM takes it as written, you will render the rest of the party irrelevant, and that will probably make the new players think that D&D is a dumb game and likely make them have less fun. If he doesn't, there's no point in having the ludicrous stats in the first place. So why bother? Check with the DM to make sure this character is okay, imagine all the fun things you could have done with it - and then play something completely different that will make sure that both you and the party will have fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vadskye View Post
    In that case, I would seriously advise not playing something as dumb as the miniminititan. Because, yes, it's a fun thought exercise. But if the DM takes it as written, you will render the rest of the party irrelevant, and that will probably make the new players think that D&D is a dumb game and likely make them have less fun. If he doesn't, there's no point in having the ludicrous stats in the first place. So why bother? Check with the DM to make sure this character is okay, imagine all the fun things you could have done with it - and then play something completely different that will make sure that both you and the party will have fun.
    they've had one sesion already without me, started at level 5, killed a collosus, are currently fighting a hydra, and are going to find me, not next session, but the session after, and all i'm going to have is a spell book, clothes, and maybe some weapons, because i'm somehow locked in a prison..?

    edit: oh, and he already okayed my character..
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    Quote Originally Posted by chaotic stupid View Post
    because i'm somehow locked in a prison..?
    That's my point right there. He's clearly not assuming your character is as powerful as it is, unless this prison is made of adamantine walls with a permanent antimagic field. Just play something that can actually exist in a remotely functional universe.

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    look if you want something powerful with templates, PM me and I can help you come up with something a little less ridiculous :p
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vadskye View Post
    That's my point right there. He's clearly not assuming your character is as powerful as it is, unless this prison is made of adamantine walls with a permanent antimagic field. Just play something that can actually exist in a remotely functional universe.
    well, he perfectly understood that i used to be able to break down a steel door with a nat 1 on a strength check, could breath fire, acid, etc, could fly, walk up walls, cast chain lightning at will, etcetera

    now i can only break down steel doors on approximately a roll of ten, can fly, have a filled out spell book of up to lvl 3 spells, can fly, breath fire, bite, claw, deal fire damage with said bite and claw, cast chain lightning at will, etc
    and he still says my character is fine..?

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    Your point seems to be that your DM is being pretty dumb about this. You are absolutely correct. That still doesn't mean you should take advantage of it. As the experienced player, your job is to help everyone have fun - not to take advantage of their naivete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vadskye View Post
    Your point seems to be that your DM is being pretty dumb about this. You are absolutely correct. That still doesn't mean you should take advantage of it. As the experienced player, your job is to help everyone have fun - not to take advantage of their naivete.
    i realise, this is mostly just thought stuff, and while going through the books, creating my insane character, i'm looking at all the templates, trying to decide on maybe 2 or 3 useful ones that i could put on a character

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