Need a character 3.5 high level.

[DrDeth]

OK, this is a very high powered 3.5 game, 17th level, but 16th level starting cash.

We can enter some PrC’s early as Skill focus gives you RANKS.

Core + the first four Complete books. Others OK by DM. No Psionics. Frostburn & Sandstorm OK, in fact we’re playing in Frostburn now.

Pretty much any races. Roll for stats, generous system.

Not TOO cheesy, but some cheese OK. Bad guys are often buffed heavily and often are advanced.

We have:

Super-duper Buffing cleric with like 5 PrC’s. This means divine buffing is handled, and so is healing.

Powerful Bear Druid with VoP and Bear sidekick. Melee monsters. Does some buffing.

Scout. Not there all the time.

Sorcerer specializing in doing damage by self-buffing and changing into dragon .

Currently I am playing a Ratling Sorc Shaman from OA, generalist doing mostly utility and some party buffing spells.

[Vaz]

What exactly do you want?

The VoP druid is fairly terrible. The boosts going to its Physical Stats are lost in Wild Shape, and boosts to its spellcasting DC's aren't as prolific as a Wizard, say.

You'll probably need a full time scout role. A Human Wizard 14/Chameleon 2/Mindbender 1 with Assume Supernatural Ability and Mindsight. Polymorph yourself into a Spellweaver for detection etc. Combine with Planar Touchstone Catalogues of Enlightenment: Kobold Domain for trapfinding, and use the floating Chameleon feat to craft to the parties content during downtime, and they'll love you.

Try Wizard Prestige Classes, like Spellguard of Silverymoon (and Magic of the Land) to get immense party buffs, like Greater Invisibility, Fly, etc

[Snowbluff]

You don't need a mindbender dip, just get a familiar good at detection, like a Beguiler or Psuedodragon with Mindsight.

Really you might want a character with some specialized offense. Someone to lay on the hurt really well. Like a Warblade or something.

The VoP druid is fairly terrible. The boosts going to its Physical Stats are lost in Wild Shape, and boosts to its spellcasting DC's aren't as prolific as a Wizard, say.

As enhancement bonuses, I believe that is not that case. Unless wilding clasped items lose their bonuses as well when you wildshape. Either way you apply benefits in the order you wish, and druid is one of the few classes that

[DrDeth]

Ah yes, I had a Warblade. He was so good the DM banned the whole BoNS.

Actually the VoP druid has been seriously kicking butt.

The Scout when here, does his job very well, and i don't want to over shadow him.

So, I guess a ranged damage dealer?

Or a battlefield controler. That might be best.

And as a back up (the Druid may be swapping out, bring in an arcanist), a tank. But I think a spellcasting tank. Can we build one without shapeshifting/polymorph?

One other thing, Mobilty is key in this game.

What do you guys think about that Elementalist PrC, where at 10th level you change into an elemental? Air has a lot of mobility, no?

Our DM allows VoP to have the bonuses in Wildshape.

[GreenETC]

If you're looking for an Arcane Tank with a lot of mobility, without being too cheesy, see if you can get your DM to allow you to run this, allowing Wyrm Wizard from Dragon Magic and Swiftblade from the Wizards Website:

Duskblade 6/Wyrm Wizard 2/Swiftblade 9
Arcane Preparation and Extend Spell

You use Arcane Preparation and a Metamagic Feat to get into Wyrm Wizard, using it to get Haste as a 1st level spell off of the Trapsmith class list (and the designer of the class stated that he made it before knowing about Trapsmith, so he would suggest allowing someone to qualify while only casting Haste from the level they receive haste). Swiftblade is awesome, if a little impractical, and will allow you to run around doing whatever you want, slapping people with your sword and spells.

[Biffoniacus_Furiou]

Looks like a good arcane gish would be what this party needs.

If you want to go Cha-based with Paladin, go Paladin 2/ Sorcerer 4/ Spellsword 1/ Abjurant Champion 5/ Sacred Exorcist 8 for the build. Be an Illumian with the Naenhoon sigil to persist two spells each day (four active if Extend stacks favorably with Persist). Use this trick to get around the limited spells known, especially for buffs you'll only cast 1/day. I'd make those Draconic Polymorph: War Troll, Bite of the Werebear, Wraithstrike, and Thunderlance. Get Arcane Preparation if you can't put (Greater) Luminous Armor on your Runestaff, and have a Rod of Bodily Restoration to fix the sacrifice damage it deals when it ends.

If you want more persistent spells than you know what to do with, go Fighter 2/ Wizard 4/ Spellsword 1/ Abjurant Champion 5/ Incantatrix 4/ Eldritch Knight 4 for the build. Get Item Familiar at 3rd and invest every skill point you get after that into it to get the greatest return, which enables you to make the Spellcraft checks for Cooperative Metamagic and Metamagic Effect. You can use Cooperative Metamagic on your own spells as long as you're not in combat, as the action economy system only exists during initiative. However, you may want to use Cooperative Metamagic to help the other casters in the party Persist their buffs. Later the Scout can get a Ring of Spell Storing for other casters to put personal range buffs in, and you can Cooperative Metamagic: Persist those for him so he can keep up. Still use (Greater) Luminous Armor and a Rod of Bodily Restoration, it pretty much plays the same as the above build but it just has tons more persistent spells.

[Snowbluff]

If you are going Duskblade, you want the 13th level. Flyby attack works well with the class.

Bifu, it is a crime you did not submit a wizard6/Swiftblade9 build.

[Biffoniacus_Furiou]

If you are going Duskblade, you want the 13th level. Flyby attack works well with the class.

Bifu, it is a crime you did not submit a wizard6/Swiftblade9 build.

I've never been a fan of Swiftblade just because the other options are so much better. It's also a bit lacking at this level of play when either of the two builds I suggested make use of Persistent spell shenanigans.

[DrDeth]

Looks like a good arcane gish would be what this party needs.

If you want to go Cha-based with Paladin, go Paladin 2/ Sorcerer 4/ Spellsword 1/ Abjurant Champion 5/ Sacred Exorcist 8 for the build. Be an Illumian with the Naenhoon sigil to persist two spells each day (four active if Extend stacks favorably with Persist). Use this trick to get around the limited spells known, especially for buffs you'll only cast 1/day. I'd make those Draconic Polymorph: War Troll, Bite of the Werebear, Wraithstrike, and Thunderlance. Get Arcane Preparation if you can't put (Greater) Luminous Armor on your Runestaff, and have a Rod of Bodily Restoration to fix the sacrifice damage it deals when it ends.

If you want more persistent spells than you know what to do with, go Fighter 2/ Wizard 4/ Spellsword 1/ Abjurant Champion 5/ Incantatrix 4/ Eldritch Knight 4 for the build. .

Hmm, these sound possible. Incantatrix is FR, so it's only a maybe.

Why the level of Spellsword? Lt armor?

How about duskblade?

[Biffoniacus_Furiou]

Hmm, these sound possible. Incantatrix is FR, so it's only a maybe.

Why the level of Spellsword? Lt armor?

How about duskblade?

Spellsword is there because it gives both BAB and spellcasting, and has lower prerequisites than Abjurant Champion. It's there as a stepping stone because it doesn't hinder either of your progressions. You don't need to wear armor, with Abjurant Champion you get a +9 from casting Shield and +13 for Greater Luminous Armor.

[Snowbluff]

I've never been a fan of Swiftblade just because the other options are so much better. It's also a bit lacking at this level of play when either of the two builds I suggested make use of Persistent spell shenanigans.

Pfft. Have you read the class? Buff consolidation, extra action, and Initiative bonus. It's a great class at any level. Add in that the requested mobility and that Incantatrix could be interpreted as too cheesy and that they already have buffers...

Your builds can only put out crappy a meh Dispel then a a singular Greater Dispel, when the Swiftblade can put out 2 Greater and have time to buff haste. Wizard can trade the 5th level Feat for Inquisition, and the First level Scribe Scroll has been traded for Dodge. This allows the Swiftablde to succeed dispels wit ha reasonable chance of success to fulfill a vital role against buffed targets.

AND! My build can use Persistent spell. The Requirements for Spell Dancer (Magic of Faerun) overlap heavily with the ones for Swiftblade and Abjurant Champion. The skill check is easier and the con and fatigue are easily handled with items. My original build ends with 17 BaB and 9th level spells, but this will end with 16 BaB.

Elven (of some variety, or a Tiefling) Wizard6/Swiftblade9/SpellDancer1(AbjChamp1 if not a Tiefling).
Feats: Dodge (Wizard1), Mobility (1), Endurance (3), Combat Casting (6), Extend Spell (9), Persistent Spell (12), Practiced Spellcaster (15).

Fifth level Wizard feat is either Spontaneous Divination or Inquisition Domain Power. If you take Spontaneous Divination, you can use a flaw and move some feats to take Versatile Spell caster. Another Flaw and some Swapping can get you the Inquisition Domain with Planar Touch Stone. Finally, Ocular Spell can be chosen to give more spells a fixed ranged. Persistent irremovable haste with benefits, anyone?

Also, feel free to grab Abrupt Jaunt.

[dspeyer]

Hmm... Gish... Swiftblade... Skill focus counts as ranks...

Bard 7 / Swiftblade 1 / Sublime Chord 1 / Swiftblade 8 / Abjurant Champion 3

BAB 17, full SC casting, most swiftblade goodies.

Oh, wait. You're starting at 15th level. This will only have 7th level spells then. Which is as good as a full sorcerer, but not awesome.

Bard 7 / Sublime Chord 10 / Dragon Disciple 3

Replace SC 2-10 with full casting PrCs to taste. Dragon Disciple actually makes sense here as you can't progress casting any more and it gives extra 9th level spell slots. 8th level spells at level 15 and 9ths at level 16.

[Keld Denar]

Its a Frostburn game? Dry Lich. The arctic is just another type of desert, and raising the whole area by 2 temperature bands would be nearly catastrophic.

Cleric5/WalkerInTheWaste10/X2, or something similar. Don't even have to do early entry. That'll make things interesting.

Otherwise, if you want to embrace the cold, Winterhaunt of Iborighu from Frostburn is pretty interesting. Doubly so if you cast Snowsight on yourself and the whole party, then DMM Persist a Blizzard spell. Darkness is overrated...whiteout 4tw!

[DrDeth]

Where are the following, book wise:

WalkerInTheWaste
Swiftblade
Greater Luminous Armor

?

[Biffoniacus_Furiou]

Walker in the Waste is in Sandstorm.
Swiftblade
Greater Luminous Armor is in Book of Exalted Deeds.