Pathfinder Grab Bag Competition Chat Thread II: New Thread smell included!

[3WhiteFox3]

What about summing up the theme as just being "Rule of Cool"?

Yeah. That's fine.

EDIT: I'd like to nominate 'No Rest For The Wicked' - Crime and Criminals

[Tanuki Tales]

{table=head]Proposed Name|Theme
Third Law|Magitech and technology in general
Mad Man in a Magic Box|Whoverse
Fire and Brimstone|The Lower Planes
The Wasteland|Wasteland (either natural or artificial)
The Mythic Journey|Mythic characters and High Fantasy
Bring Down The Hammer|Literal or Metaphorical Hammers
Phasing Out|Teleportation, Planar Travel, etc.
We Built This City (On Rock and Roll)|Rock songs
Those Poorly-Drawn Hands|Cartoons
Spelling: It's Important.|Magic
"How the !@#$?"|Rule of Cool
'No Rest For The Wicked'|Crime and Criminals

[/table]

Just need 4 more!

[Razanir]

Sing Us a Song: Musicals and musical theatre. It could be a parole officer who hunts down the same person for decades, a phantom that lives under an opera hall, or even some sort of mischievous fey that attacks anyone who names Macbeth That Scottish Play

[Benly]

Macbeth is a musical? You've got a heck of a theatre director.

Drop The Bomb: Explosions.

[Razanir]

Macbeth is a musical? You've got a heck of a theatre director.

Drop The Bomb: Explosions.

I meant it in reference to the theatrical superstition, not in reference to the play.

[Benly]

I meant it in reference to the theatrical superstition, not in reference to the play.

I know the superstition, I'm just funning you.

[Razanir]

I know the superstition, I'm just funning you.

Fair enough. It does bring up a good point, though, that a lot of Shakespeare could be interesting as a musical.

(shudders at the mental image of Mercutio singing his death speech)

[TheWombatOfDoom]

The one time I felt I had something, things have constantly killed my drive to get it completed. I had a disaster with my car on the way up to maine, my grandmother died last week, and all around just constant business that I hadn't been prepared for.

I'm going to have to withdraw my entry.

Someday, Tanuki! Someday.

[SamBurke]

The one time I felt I had something, things have constantly killed my drive to get it completed. I had a disaster with my car on the way up to maine, my grandmother died last week, and all around just constant business that I hadn't been prepared for.

I'm going to have to withdraw my entry.

Someday, Tanuki! Someday.

Awwwww... Sorry man. Sounds like you've got more important things ATM, though...

[Tanuki Tales]

The one time I felt I had something, things have constantly killed my drive to get it completed. I had a disaster with my car on the way up to maine, my grandmother died last week, and all around just constant business that I hadn't been prepared for.

I'm going to have to withdraw my entry.

Someday, Tanuki! Someday.

Dude, that's just terrible! Don't worry about this contest if you've got all that on your plate!

[gr8artist]

For the "Fire of the Sky" theme, could we re-phrase it as "Wrath of God," including lightning/meteors? Although i have no problem with Fire of the Sky as a theme itself. Mildly restrictive, but could be fun.

I would like to suggest "Monster Master", which would include everything from pokemon, digimon, monster-rancher, dragon warrior monsters, etc...
My entry would be a base class with nearly half a dozen ways of acquiring pets and training them, and maybe learning some abilities from them.

If allowed a second suggestion, I'll go with "Charon's Wages," meaning assassins, hired guns, mercenaries, and vile contracts. (money and death, or just money in general)

Also, to promote votes, you may want to consider a new rule for the next contest: You cannot submit themes for the contest until you've voted for the current or ongoing contest.
(for example, you couldn't suggest this month's theme (All Grown Up) without having voted in last month's contest (Call of a Hero))

[SamBurke]

For the "Fire of the Sky" theme, could we re-phrase it as "Wrath of God," including lightning/meteors? Although i have no problem with Fire of the Sky as a theme itself. Mildly restrictive, but could be fun.

I would like to suggest "Monster Master", which would include everything from pokemon, digimon, monster-rancher, dragon warrior monsters, etc...
My entry would be a base class with nearly half a dozen ways of acquiring pets and training them, and maybe learning some abilities from them.

If allowed a second suggestion, I'll go with "Charon's Wages," meaning assassins, hired guns, mercenaries, and vile contracts. (money and death, or just money in general)

Also, to promote votes, you may want to consider a new rule for the next contest: You cannot submit themes for the contest until you've voted for the current or ongoing contest.
(for example, you couldn't suggest this month's theme (All Grown Up) without having voted in last month's contest (Call of a Hero))

I support this pretty whole-heartedly. Peeps! Your participation makes this a thing!

[gr8artist]

Thanks. :-)
also, I added a Big Bad T-Rex... it's a CR 13, but its bite attack is terrible. It already had swallow whol0e, so I tweaked the template to reflect that possibility. It deals 12d6 with a full breath to wooden structures, ouch. It can blow away medium size creatures, with hurricane force winds.

[Ilorin Lorati]

Also, to promote votes, you may want to consider a new rule for the next contest: You cannot submit themes for the contest until you've voted for the current or ongoing contest.
(for example, you couldn't suggest this month's theme (All Grown Up) without having voted in last month's contest (Call of a Hero))

Look on the other side of that: The voting ended on the 20th, and I didn't post in this thread (and haven't for several months) until after the voting had ended. Prevent people from trying to help after they can literally no longer vote raises the perceived barrier to entry, which hinders growth.

[gr8artist]

Ok, so new people would be exempt from the rule. But if you voted for the last month's theme, you need to vote for the winner before proposing a theme for the next month.

[Benly]

For the "Fire of the Sky" theme, could we re-phrase it as "Wrath of God," including lightning/meteors? Although i have no problem with Fire of the Sky as a theme itself. Mildly restrictive, but could be fun.

Wrath of God is a cool thing but it's different from fire in the sky.

Also, to promote votes, you may want to consider a new rule for the next contest: You cannot submit themes for the contest until you've voted for the current or ongoing contest.
(for example, you couldn't suggest this month's theme (All Grown Up) without having voted in last month's contest (Call of a Hero))

I'm opposed to this, simply because I don't like voting for the winner of a contest I'm participating in if there's no rule against self-voting. It feels kind of awkward to vote for myself, but at the same time if I didn't like my entry I wouldn't have submitted it.

[3WhiteFox3]

Also, to promote votes, you may want to consider a new rule for the next contest: You cannot submit themes for the contest until you've voted for the current or ongoing contest.
(for example, you couldn't suggest this month's theme (All Grown Up) without having voted in last month's contest (Call of a Hero))

I oppose this. What if someone forgot to vote or just didn't get around to it? Penalizing them for that is probably going to just cause frustration and the desire to try something else. There's also the fact that voting does take some time, going through all of the entries and getting a solid enough grasp of them to honestly rank them takes me a bit of time. That can also push people away if now they are being forced to sacrifice some of their time to just submit a theme.

This rule would also mean that it would take longer to get the number of themes to start voting on them, since some people would be unable to because they didn't vote.

I think that the goal is a very noble one, but in the long run would probably hurt the competition more than it helps. That's my opinion about it.

[gr8artist]

Ok, modifying my previous suggestion: Everyone gets one submission. If additional submissions are needed, new contestants and those who have voted may submit again as needed. Older players who have yet to vote may not make a second submission until they have voted for the previous competition.

Clears up a lot of the "so-and-so doesn't get to nominate" problems. Thoughts?

[Tanuki Tales]

{table=head]Proposed Name|Theme
Third Law|Magitech and technology in general
Mad Man in a Magic Box|Whoverse
Fire and Brimstone|The Lower Planes
The Wasteland|Wasteland (either natural or artificial)
The Mythic Journey|Mythic characters and High Fantasy
Bring Down The Hammer|Literal or Metaphorical Hammers
Phasing Out|Teleportation, Planar Travel, etc.
We Built This City (On Rock and Roll)|Rock songs
Those Poorly-Drawn Hands|Cartoons
Spelling: It's Important.|Magic
"How the !@#$?"|Rule of Cool
'No Rest For The Wicked'|Crime and Criminals
Fire in the Sky|Lightning and/or Meteors
Monster Master|Monster collection games
Charon's Wages|Contract killers and other mercenaries
[/table]

We need 1 more! I want to power through these votes as fast as possible and open this contest on the 2nd. Girlfriend has been home more often than normal and Fall semester has started up, so my attention has been kind of other places.

@Gr8: I...really don't see the point in such a rule.

@Everyone else: Does anyone other than Benly have issue with the fact you're allowed to vote for your own entry?

[TheWombatOfDoom]

@gr8artist - I don't know. I mean, I understand giving incentives to get people to vote for the contests...but I think this is an occasion of I'd rather have quality instead of quantity. Think of it this way - It takes time commitment to vote properly - especially when there are many entries. This is one of the reasons I don't vote every month. Sometimes I have the time, but others (like this month) I didn't. If I had to vote in order to suggest categories, I'd be tempted to skim through, and that isn't really fair to the entrees. People took the time to post these, and getting basic ideas for each one without fully exploring the post is just...in my opinion...bad. I know I'd want people to fully look over my entree to make their votes. Someone might have a great idea, but not the follow through in the rest of their entree. Someone might have a common idea, but spin it in a unique way. This is why I refuse to vote if I can't devote some time to doing it. I'm not going to half-bass it, and just pick 5, and I feel if I'm tempted to do so, other people will certainly be as well, if not more.

Further, making someone vote to suggest a second category, or even a first category, means that you are slowing the process for picking next month's category, which doesn't work great. We NEED 16 to run the selection process. If we don't get it, things get delayed. So making it so people can't fill the gaps...seems counter intuitive.

Just my 2 cents. Wish I had a better suggestion.

EDIT!

@ Tanuki Tales - Topic - Spaaaaaaaaaaaace! - Aliens, spaceships, and other interplanetary intracies. Also, I don't mind voting for myself, if I think it worthy enough to get it. It's hard to monitor things like that, for obvious reasons.

[Benly]

@Everyone else: Does anyone other than Benly have issue with the fact you're allowed to vote for your own entry?

Just to clarify, I don't mind that people are allowed to vote for themselves - I just don't like voting for myself, personally, but I'll usually think my own entry is in the top three (because, well, if I didn't think it was at least that good I probably wouldn't think it was ready to be submitted to a contest.)

[SamBurke]

Just to clarify, I don't mind that people are allowed to vote for themselves - I just don't like voting for myself, personally, but I'll usually think my own entry is in the top three (because, well, if I didn't think it was at least that good I probably wouldn't think it was ready to be submitted to a contest.)

This is the same for me.

[gr8artist]

I've never really felt right voting for myself, even when I feel that my submission is better than some others, because I know I'm not biased.
I try to assess all of the submissions equally, but it's hard to not appreciate your own work. I would rather not be allowed to vote for myself.
If I'm allowed to, then I must consider the possibility that my entry is better than others, but I can't make a fair judgement because I'm far more familiar with my own entries.

[Tanuki Tales]

{table=head]Proposed Name|Theme|Votes
Third Law|Magitech and technology in general|0
Mad Man in a Magic Box|Whoverse|0
Fire and Brimstone|The Lower Planes|0
The Wasteland|Wasteland (either natural or artificial)|0
The Mythic Journey|Mythic characters and High Fantasy|0
Bring Down The Hammer|Literal or Metaphorical Hammers|0
Phasing Out|Teleportation, Planar Travel, etc.|0
We Built This City (On Rock and Roll)|Rock songs|0
Those Poorly-Drawn Hands|Cartoons|0
Spelling: It's Important.|Magic|0
"How the !@#$?"|Rule of Cool|0
'No Rest For The Wicked'|Crime and Criminals|0
Fire in the Sky|Lightning and/or Meteors|0
Monster Master|Monster collection games|0
Charon's Wages|Contract killers and other mercenaries|0
Spaaaaaaaaaaaace!|Aliens, spaceships, and other interplanetary intracies|0
[/table]


One does not expect to leave their house at noon and not get home until midnight.

Anyways, there's your 16 categories and per usual, you get 8 votes for the first round. Don't dilly dally, because I'm moving on to the next round tomorrow.

And that's 3 people, so if we get 2 more having issue with the policy, I will review it.

[malonkey1]

• Mad Man in a Magic Box
• The Mythic Journey
• Phasing Out
• We Built This City (On Rock and Roll)
• Those Poorly-Drawn Hands
• "How the !@#$?"
• 'No Rest For The Wicked'
• Fire in the Sky

[TheWombatOfDoom]

Mad Man in a Magic Box
Fire and Brimstone
The Mythic Journey
Phasing Out
We Built This City (On Rock and Roll)
"How the !@#$?"
'No Rest For The Wicked'
Spaaaaaaaaaaaace!

[SamBurke]

{table=head]Proposed Name|Theme|Votes
Third Law|Magitech and technology in general|0
Mad Man in a Magic Box|Whoverse|0
Fire and Brimstone|The Lower Planes|0
The Wasteland|Wasteland (either natural or artificial)|0
The Mythic Journey|Mythic characters and High Fantasy|0
Bring Down The Hammer|Literal or Metaphorical Hammers|0
Phasing Out|Teleportation, Planar Travel, etc.|0
We Built This City (On Rock and Roll)|Rock songs|0
Those Poorly-Drawn Hands|Cartoons|0
Spelling: It's Important.|Magic|0
"How the !@#$?"|Rule of Cool|0
'No Rest For The Wicked'|Crime and Criminals|0
Fire in the Sky|Lightning and/or Meteors|0
Monster Master|Monster collection games|0
Charon's Wages|Contract killers and other mercenaries|0
Spaaaaaaaaaaaace!|Aliens, spaceships, and other interplanetary intracies|0
[/table]


One does not expect to leave their house at noon and not get home until midnight.

Anyways, there's your 16 categories and per usual, you get 8 votes for the first round. Don't dilly dally, because I'm moving on to the next round tomorrow.

And that's 3 people, so if we get 2 more having issue with the policy, I will review it.

Phasing Out
Charon's Wages
Fire in the Sky
How the !@#$?
Fire and Brimstone
The Mythic Journey
Fire in the Sky
Mad Man in a Magic Box.

[gr8artist]

Fire and Brimstone
The Wasteland
Phasing Out
We Built this City (On Rock and Roll)
How the !@#$?
Fire in the Sky
Monster Master
Charon's Wages

Do we have links to all the old competitions and voting rounds somewhere? I'm not sure I won the awards you sent me.

[Benly]

Fire and Brimstone
The Wasteland
Bring Down The Hammer
Phasing Out
No Rest For The Wicked
Fire In The Sky
We Built This City
Charon's Wages

[SamBurke]

Fire and Brimstone
The Wasteland
Phasing Out
We Built this City (On Rock and Roll)
How the !@#$?
Fire in the Sky
Monster Master
Charon's Wages

Do we have links to all the old competitions and voting rounds somewhere? I'm not sure I won the awards you sent me.

It should be on the first page.