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    The answer here is that they are lying to you and that's basically it. By saying "oh we turned away people with 20 years of experience" they where leading you into thinking, regardless of you conciously thinking it or not "oh they must think I'm at least comparable to that".

    It's basically bull**** and they're just doing it because they know they can't afford to keep you on without giving you some sort of benefit that you'd be owed. The correct answer to their "this job wouldn't help you" is "yes it would it would give me money, so that I am capable of looking for more lucrative jobs in this field."

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaZodiac View Post
    The answer here is that they are lying to you and that's basically it. By saying "oh we turned away people with 20 years of experience" they where leading you into thinking, regardless of you conciously thinking it or not "oh they must think I'm at least comparable to that".

    It's basically bull**** and they're just doing it because they know they can't afford to keep you on without giving you some sort of benefit that you'd be owed. The correct answer to their "this job wouldn't help you" is "yes it would it would give me money, so that I am capable of looking for more lucrative jobs in this field."

    Possibly adding "you ass holes." at the end in your head.
    Except they have hired university students multiple years in a row without a problem. If they had to give people benefits for working multiple years and couldn't do that, they wouldn't have kept the university students on either.

    And there's also the matter of them apparently considering keeping me on a month ago, which they wouldn't have done had this been the reason.
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    Except they have hired university students multiple years in a row without a problem. If they had to give people benefits for working multiple years and couldn't do that, they wouldn't have kept the university students on either.

    And there's also the matter of them apparently considering keeping me on a month ago, which they wouldn't have done had this been the reason.
    People are fickle. Maybe it has to do with how long or how much work you've done. I don't know all the specifics, but the stuff I am bringing up are all possible reasons.

    Suffice to say, good luck man, this sounds awful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dire Moose View Post
    Except they have hired university students multiple years in a row without a problem. If they had to give people benefits for working multiple years and couldn't do that, they wouldn't have kept the university students on either.

    And there's also the matter of them apparently considering keeping me on a month ago, which they wouldn't have done had this been the reason.
    Might just be some money thing going on behind the scenes, they lost some funding, didn't get high attendance, whatever. I know there are multiple government programs that heavily or entirely subsidize university student employees, which could be why they are able to keep them while cutting down on other staff.
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    I already knew they couldn't keep me for the fall. What they just told me today was that they would not hire me again for next summer if I applied. They mentioned nothing about funding or anything money related when I asked either.
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    Seems to me their policy is "we generally don't re-hire non-students for multiple years in a row, unless they have really, really impressed us."

    Since there's a lot of competition for these positions, it's possible to be good or even very good, yet not outstanding enough to justify an exception to their general rule.
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    It's also possible that the person who described the exit interview to you wasn't aware of their policy regarding rehiring non-students. That seems like the simplest explanation to me - they give the same description to everyone, most of the people they talk to are uni students, they didn't think to modify it for you. Not everyone who works at an institution knows all their administrative policies, and it is honestly not a big deal if they make a small mistake in the description of what a future interview will cover, so I would not expect people to work hard to avoid such mistakes.

    (As an analogy, I'm a junior professor at a university. I have previously said to students things like "Well, have you thought about trying out the tutoring program?" and then later found out that a tutoring program wasn't available for the particular class they were having trouble with, due to low enrollment numbers. This does not mean I was taunting the student, or that they lost eligibility for the tutoring program for some mysterious reason between that conversation and when I next talked to them, or that I'm lying about the low enrollment numbers - it means I wasn't aware of a relevant restriction on the tutoring program until the second time we talked.)

    It might have been something you did, and they may be trying to spare your feelings. For future reference, if you think this is going on, sometimes asking "Was there any other factor, besides my non-student status? If I did anything wrong, I'd like to know so I can correct it in my next job" will get past people's natural tendency to want to avoid hurting you. (And they may feel that since you're not coming back, criticizing your work now would come across as too-late and pointlessly hurtful.)

    As far as things you might have done wrong, "doesn't take feedback well" seems like the one thing that stands out to me (forgetting a backpack on the first day seems trivial, unless they thought it was part of a general pattern of ill-preparedness). It could just be a matter of how they perceived your reaction - you say you changed what you were doing when corrected, but if you did it grudgingly or complaining, rather than with "Oh, wow, thanks for telling me, I'll fix that right away", that might have been an issue. Likewise, you might have been missing hints of "this is not the best way to do it" that fell short of actually saying "Dude, you're doing this wrong, do it this way instead".

    That said, given you asked your supervisor and they had nothing negative to say, I'd bet on "whoever told you about the content of the exit interview wasn't thinking about their policy on rehiring non-students, either because they didn't know about it or they just forgot".

    EDIT: Or yes, as lio45 said, they might mention to non-students that the question might be asked, even knowing that most of them won't get the option, because a few will (the most outstanding) and it's good to have an answer in mind.
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    New thread time. If no-one makes one I might.
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