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    Could somebody make that. Thanks.

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    He's wrapping up a book. Drama is a thing that's going to happen. Right about now, my funk-soul brother.
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    I really would rather Tarquin finally just went all George R. R. Martin on Nale.
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    He's wrapping up a book. Drama is a thing that's going to happen. Right about now, my funk-soul brother.
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    I really would rather Tarquin finally just went all George R. R. Martin on Nale.
    That's right - George R. R. Martin; a writer so ruthless, his name is a verb akin to Samuel L. Jackson. Valar morghulis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luna_Mayflower View Post
    Maybe Elan can be made into a dinosaur like he always wanted!
    At this juncture, goofy comedy with absolutely no drama at all would induce some pretty severe mood whiplash. It would also feel pretty wildly out of place in the current story arc.

    Just wait for it. I'm sure there will be lighter strips eventually. Just...not during the storyline about Elan's dad being the utterly amoral blood-soaked tyrant of an evil empire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuikov View Post
    At this juncture, goofy comedy with absolutely no drama at all would induce some pretty severe mood whiplash. It would also feel pretty wildly out of place in the current story arc.
    Except maybe for this: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0904.html

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    The official term for it (and by official, I mean the one that TVTropes uses) is Cerebus Syndrome. It's not a bad thing to become more dramatic over time; and while DCF was fun and all, it's nice to have an actual, deep plot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purgatorius View Post
    Well, that WAS before Tarquin showed up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purgatorius View Post
    Yeah, but compare that to this:

    http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0012.html

    There are no straightforward gag strips like that anymore. Even on a relatively light-hearted strip like the one you linked to, they're in genuine danger of getting killed by a giant Silicon elemental and acknowledge such. The stakes are too high for strips that are 100% aiming for a laugh, without injecting some drama and actual danger into the mix.

    Yep. Cerebus syndrome. Though it should be pointed out that, while the comic has definitely tipped much more towards the serious stuff, I can't even remember if there's ever been a strip which is pure drama, without even a single attempt made at getting a laugh. Drama and humor are still very well balanced.

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    Pure comedy strips happen towards the beginning of books. Like this one; we had Aton, sex taint, and cart of gophers, along with Durkon versus the palm tree, Belkar's sweat woes, et cetera. You don't put pure comedy in the middle of the climax though, unless you really want people scratching their heads and greatly diffusing the dramatic tension. I'm sure we'll see some pure comedy before #950.
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    well, if oots didn't have a good plot, i won't be reading it. jokes alone can only bring you that far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King of Nowere View Post
    well, if oots didn't have a good plot, i won't be reading it. jokes alone can only bring you that far.
    Agreed. It's not the jokes that have me checking daily for new comics, it's the ongoing and gripping storyline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhunter_d View Post
    The official term for it (and by official, I mean the one that TVTropes uses) is Cerebus Syndrome. It's not a bad thing to become more dramatic over time; and while DCF was fun and all, it's nice to have an actual, deep plot.
    How does "Cerebus Syndrome" not refer to the creator of a work going crazy and filling his magnum opus with off-topic sexist rants?

    I think it's a better example of Just One Chair On The Executor's Bridge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jere7my View Post
    How does "Cerebus Syndrome" not refer to the creator of a work going crazy and filling his magnum opus with off-topic sexist rants?
    Only because he wasn't crazy yet at the time when the term was made up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Excise View Post
    Only because he wasn't crazy yet at the time when the term was made up.
    Which probably means it should go to sliding scale of comedy vs. drama, really.
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    I really would rather Tarquin finally just went all George R. R. Martin on Nale.
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    I've complained about excessive drama and lack of humor at times in the past, but I think the current major arc is being wrapped up in a much better way. Except for the few people who loved Nale, I don't think his death was overly dramatic. Tarquin is good for several humorous panels per strip if you don't overreact to the fact that he's evil to characters with names just as he has always been evil to nameless slaves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Excise View Post
    Only because he wasn't crazy yet at the time when the term was made up.
    Is that true? Reads was released in 1993 and 1994, in the very early days of the web. Sim went off-the-rails misogynist well before Television Tropes was invented.

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    There has been a lot of good humour in the recent strips, IMHO:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuikov View Post
    At this juncture, goofy comedy with absolutely no drama at all would induce some pretty severe mood whiplash. It would also feel pretty wildly out of place in the current story arc.

    Just wait for it. I'm sure there will be lighter strips eventually. Just...not during the storyline about Elan's dad being the utterly amoral blood-soaked tyrant of an evil empire.
    Actually... Part of the current drama is, well, Tarquin intentionally layering on the drama. Does V know Polymorph? Because, if so, we can maybe get Elan turning into a giant dinosaur for practical purposes, AND the shift to comedy would be just the sort of "Make him fall in a decidedly non-badass way" solution Elan's looking for. Except, well, for the part that would involve eating his dad. Elan probably wouldn't go for that. Maybe we'd need a Belkarsaurus, too.

    That, or "Summon 16-Ton Weight."
    I guess sometimes it's more interesting to accept a mistake and go with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gift Jeraff View Post
    There has been a lot of good humour in the recent strips, IMHO:

    "--then let me friends go. Dinnae kill them too. Tha's me last request. Tha's all tha matters."

    "What's real...is that my family is screwed up and broken. And it's not going to just get magically fixed, ever."

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    "I never wanted him dead. Ever."
    How is that humour? Unless there's something I'm missing here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorbad Ironclaw View Post
    How is that humour? Unless there's something I'm missing here...
    I'm pretty sure that's sarcasm. Never interpret anything that Gift Jeraff says as serious.

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    What kind of a shot it should be? I'd prefer Five Star General, but most of the stuff will do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlawedParadigm View Post
    Pure comedy strips happen towards the beginning of books. Like this one; we had Aton, sex taint, and cart of gophers, along with Durkon versus the palm tree, Belkar's sweat woes, et cetera. You don't put pure comedy in the middle of the climax though, unless you really want people scratching their heads and greatly diffusing the dramatic tension. I'm sure we'll see some pure comedy before #950.
    Yes, bingo.

    The Giant does a phenomenal job of managing humor and drama. Personally, I'm a fan of the more dramatic direction the strip has taken. That's what keep me anxious for the next page.

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    What would they inoculate Tarquin against, though? He's already got rabid narcissism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jere7my View Post
    Is that true? Reads was released in 1993 and 1994, in the very early days of the web. Sim went off-the-rails misogynist well before Television Tropes was invented.
    But probably not before the term Cerebus Syndrome was in common use among creative types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jere7my View Post
    Is that true? Reads was released in 1993 and 1994, in the very early days of the web. Sim went off-the-rails misogynist well before Television Tropes was invented.
    Right, but the term pre-dates TV Tropes.

    Incidentally, it also makes an appearance in the work of our own (non-TV-Tropes-reading) Giant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jere7my View Post
    Is that true? Reads was released in 1993 and 1994, in the very early days of the web. Sim went off-the-rails misogynist well before Television Tropes was invented.
    Cerebus was a paper comic, not a web comic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michaeler View Post
    But probably not before the term Cerebus Syndrome was in common use among creative types.
    That's what I'm askingódo you have an example of that? I've known about Cerebus for over 20 years and I'd never heard the term "Cerebus Syndrome" before this thread. Absent evidence to the contrary, I would assume it was a Television Tropes invention.

    (After a little digging, it looks like it originated on a site called Websnark, c. 2004. Nothing comes up on Google from before 2004. That's the same year Television Tropes debuted, and ten years after Reads.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Goosefeather View Post
    Incidentally, it also makes an appearance in the work of our own (non-TV-Tropes-reading) Giant.
    That's a reference to Cerebus, not to the term "Cerebus Syndrome".

    Quote Originally Posted by Warren Dew View Post
    Cerebus was a paper comic, not a web comic.
    Uh...yes? I've got half a bookshelf full of the phone books and a pile of individual issues.
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