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    Quote Originally Posted by jere7my View Post
    (After a little digging, it looks like it originated on a site called Websnark, c. 2004. Nothing comes up on Google from before 2004. That's the same year Television Tropes debuted, and ten years after Reads.)
    Wikipedia credits it to "Why Serious Things Happen in Funny Webcomics: Investigating the Cerebus Syndrome", a paper written by Jason Turner-Maier on Feburary 22nd, 2004 in a publication by Stanford University.

    Television Tropes wouldn't be launched for another two months and so it does appear that the term predates it, albeit barely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FujinAkari View Post
    Wikipedia credits it to "Why Serious Things Happen in Funny Webcomics: Investigating the Cerebus Syndrome", a paper written by Jason Turner-Maier on Feburary 22nd, 2004 in a publication by Stanford University.

    Television Tropes wouldn't be launched for another two months and so it does appear that the term predates it, albeit barely.
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    I really would rather Tarquin finally just went all George R. R. Martin on Nale.
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    That paper does not seem to be listed on Google Scholar. I don't suppose anyone is reading from Stanford Uni who could (legally) get us a copy to peruse? It would be enlightening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlawedParadigm View Post
    Well, that's official, I just got my first forum kiss.
    Still haven't got one of those.

    Still haven't gotten a real-life one kiss.

    Only time anyone ever asked me out what when said person confused me with my cousin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King of Nowere View Post
    well, if oots didn't have a good plot, i won't be reading it. jokes alone can only bring you that far.
    True.

    Quote Originally Posted by jere7my View Post
    How does "Cerebus Syndrome" not refer to the creator of a work going crazy and filling his magnum opus with off-topic sexist rants?
    HA!

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    I'm pretty sure that's sarcasm. Never interpret anything that Gift Jeraff says as serious.
    Yeah, just look at the name. I took it seriously at first, too.

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    Still haven't got one of those.

    Still haven't gotten a real-life one kiss.

    Only time anyone ever asked me out what when said person confused me with my cousin.
    Oh, let's not get into a fight for who's the least loved. You and me will just start a club.
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    I know I'm stealing this from someone else. But it's SO FUNNY

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    And it's literally true, too.
    Just a heads-up: That coffee we gave you earlier had fluorescent calcium in it so we can track the neuronal activity in your brain. There's a slight chance the calcium could harden and vitrify your frontal lobe. Anyway, don't stress yourself thinking about it. I'm serious. Visualizing the scenario while under stress actually triggers the reaction.

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    What a stabbing cabin.

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    I'm surprised this hasn't been taken due to inappropriate content and/or leaking spoilers from future strips. . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gift Jeraff View Post
    There has been a lot of good humour in the recent strips, IMHO:

    "--then let me friends go. Dinnae kill them too. Tha's me last request. Tha's all tha matters."

    "What's real...is that my family is screwed up and broken. And it's not going to just get magically fixed, ever."

    "NERRRGHHALLL! SSAVE MEEE!"

    "I never wanted him dead. Ever."
    Two humors, if I'm reading you correctly. I detect mostly black bile with a little tinge of yellow bile from Malack. This strip needs to get its gall bladder checked for melancholy.
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    I am personally a big fan of the dramatic turn in the strip, but I want to see some more Zykon. I'm absolutely dying to see what he's been up to since he teleported away. Once the giant wraps up the current scene, I hope he'll grant us a brief peek at the lich's escapades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuikov View Post
    Yeah, but compare that to this:

    http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0012.html

    There are no straightforward gag strips like that anymore. Even on a relatively light-hearted strip like the one you linked to, they're in genuine danger of getting killed by a giant Silicon elemental and acknowledge such. The stakes are too high for strips that are 100% aiming for a laugh, without injecting some drama and actual danger into the mix.

    Yep. Cerebus syndrome. Though it should be pointed out that, while the comic has definitely tipped much more towards the serious stuff, I can't even remember if there's ever been a strip which is pure drama, without even a single attempt made at getting a laugh. Drama and humor are still very well balanced.
    That's probably because back then they were "new to the game", trying to learn everything and screwing up a lot. And arguing over the meanings of terms like "level". Also learning to play.

    Since then, things have changed. They became more experienced so there's fewer things to joke about, they've become emotionally invested in the plot(going from what they thought was a minor clichè villain to "the continued existence of the world is at stake"), their subplots got filled out, most of the characters have developed to be a bit less one-dimensional, etc.

    So yes, Cerebus Syndrome. Though I have no clue why it's called a syndrome when it seems like a perfectly natural progression of the plot. The story was never truly 100% comedy in the first place, even if an individual chapter might have been.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skarn View Post
    So yes, Cerebus Syndrome. Though I have no clue why it's called a syndrome when it seems like a perfectly natural progression of the plot.
    I don't know. Maybe 'cause it alliterates.
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    I know I'm stealing this from someone else. But it's SO FUNNY

    Zweisteine quoting Razanir:

    "I am a human sixtyfourthling! Fear my minimal halfling ancestry!"

    From: Razanir

    Bagnold could be one sixty-fourth halfling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuikov View Post
    Yeah, but compare that to this:

    http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0012.html

    There are no straightforward gag strips like that anymore. Even on a relatively light-hearted strip like the one you linked to, they're in genuine danger of getting killed by a giant Silicon elemental and acknowledge such. The stakes are too high for strips that are 100% aiming for a laugh, without injecting some drama and actual danger into the mix.

    Yep. Cerebus syndrome. Though it should be pointed out that, while the comic has definitely tipped much more towards the serious stuff, I can't even remember if there's ever been a strip which is pure drama, without even a single attempt made at getting a laugh. Drama and humor are still very well balanced.
    Actually, I believe there have been two. This and This.
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