General WoD Discussion #3 Third time's the charm - No wait, that sounds too Exalted

[ocel]

Sigh, ah well, I'll write up a better title for our next discussion thread later. Now without further adieu, let's resume where we left off.

Archive: General Thread: #1: Assemble.
General WoD Discussion #2: It's time to Celebrate!

[Turalisj]

So, I really wanna play a Mummy game.

Not just any Mummy game, but one that goes from early Egypt to Modern Day.

[Aux-Ash]

So, I really wanna play a Mummy game.

Not just any Mummy game, but one that goes from early Egypt to Modern Day.

That's... ambitious...

Several sothic cycles, hundreds of times being raised by the Cult...

And I'm not sure how well it'd work... Mummy works best in modern day fleshed out with plenty of flashbacks methinks. Amnesia is a very central theme after all.

[One Tin Soldier]

Sigh, ah well, I'll write up a better title for our next discussion thread later. Now without further adieu, let's resume where we left off.

Archive: General Thread: #1: Assemble.
General WoD Discussion #2: It's time to Celebrate!

Personally, I was fond of Rage Against the (God-)Machine.

[SiuiS]

Personally, I was fond of Rage Against the (God-)Machine.

Funny story, actually. I was able to get ahold of 3rdTsTC-WNtTE!, and asked about the transition. I think they said.. Ah, here it is.

I had to do it, you see? I had to!

Rage against the (god) machine, he was... He wasn't real. He wasn't ever real. He was just a figment of our imaginations, man, holding us in tension. A replacement thread, sittin in my spaces, living my life, getting my words! Do you understand?

So I killed him.

I crept up, and when Rage went to pour some drinks, I smashed in his head. I just... I smashed it. Smashed... There were pieces everywhere. He laughed, he laughed at me. I came back, and he found me, bleeding and naked, and he wore my clothes, had my wife, visited my friends... Rage Against looked down on me, shivering and huddled while I grabbed at the cobblestones and pleaded for just... Just... For just scraps, man! Just for scraps is all! I wanted... Something. And... And he laughed.

Pieces of his skull everywhere... But I kept... I kept smashing. I could still hear him, laughing. Laughing in my head! I was crying, and that cobblestone... I don't remember it being so heavy, y'know? But, like, after it came down a fourth time, I couldn't raise it a fifth. So I took those pieces of his skill, only they were clean and white like something porcelain, and they moved, there was filigree like old black-and-white rotoscope cartoons on the side and they moved like tiny little worms... I took them and I buried them, down at the corner of Smith and Lane.

No one... No one's noticed. Not really. My wife still thinks I'm Rage Against, I guess. And my friends. They always want me to go out and do things I, me, would never do. And sometimes, sometimes, people... They look at me, right? And they get this look. With the eyebrows, like they're confused, disappointed... And they ask, "Where is Rage Against the (god) Machine?" And they smile, and I can hear that laugh again, and I bury Them at smith and Lane, right? I've still got that cobblestone...

So, yeah. Uh, don't ask?

[Mono Vertigo]

... I feel like my Clarity dropped by at least 3 points. And I'm a mortal.

[One Tin Soldier]

Funny story, actually. I was able to get ahold of 3rdTsTC-WNtTE!, and asked about the transition. I think they said.. Ah, here it is.



So, yeah. Uh, don't ask?

Um, ok. I won't. Note to self: don't consult low-Integrity individuals about thread titles.

[Sith_Happens]

Funny story, actually. I was able to get ahold of 3rdTsTC-WNtTE!, and asked about the transition. I think they said.. Ah, here it is.

So, yeah. Uh, don't ask?

[sktarq]

Funny story, actually. I was able to get ahold of 3rdTsTC-WNtTE!, and asked about the transition. I think they said.. Ah, here it is.

So, yeah. Uh, don't ask?

That story tastes like a lemon cracker....maybe with a bit of vanilla.


I wish I was joking.

[SiuiS]

Um, ok. I won't. Note to self: don't consult low-Integrity individuals about thread titles.

Ouch XD

That story tastes like a lemon cracker....maybe with a bit of vanilla.


I wish I was joking.

Huh. I get the lemon vanilla, but the cracker part throws me. Ah well. Everyone's synesthesia is different.

Sorry about the Clarity, Musashi! D= guess that's the downside of GMC rules, outside stuff affects you...

[Sir_Mopalot]

So from a few pages back, there was the whole idea of a vampire propelling itself through space by vomiting blood, which I thought was an amusing mental image. Obviously the kind of thrust we were talking about was ludicrously high by RAW, so I decided to derive the "real" numbers. I don't have the book in question, so I figured it out like so:

1. The Vampire weighs 72 kg "full" of blood.
2. 1 Vitae is .71 L (the average human has 7 vitae of blood and the average human has 5 L of blood.
3. Blood has a density of 1.06 kg/L, so we have .75 kg of blood per vitae.
4. I figured the speed at which the blood is ejected is probably about the same as a sneeze, which is about 100 mph, or 44.5 m/s.
5. Using this calculator, I plug in the numbers to discover that we have a Delta-V (change in velocity) of .47 m/s.

So the weight of the blood and the weight of the vampire are constants. How fast would the blood have to be ejected to accelerate your vampire up to 2 miles per second? Well, I ran the numbers, and it's just a little under 305,000 meters per second. Or, y'know, just about the speed of light.

This has been "Overthinking Vampire Physics". Please go about your business.

[Mewtarthio]

What if you've got a young vampire who can still feed off animals? Most animals have significantly less Vitae than humans, so you could end up with more blood per Vitae, particularly if you nabbed a large animal, such as a hippo (Don't laugh; ghoul hippopotami are terrifying).

[The Glyphstone]

Normally hippopotami are terrifying. I can't imagine being ghouled makes them any less scary/dangerous/ill-tempered.

[One Tin Soldier]

So from a few pages back, there was the whole idea of a vampire propelling itself through space by vomiting blood, which I thought was an amusing mental image. Obviously the kind of thrust we were talking about was ludicrously high by RAW, so I decided to derive the "real" numbers. I don't have the book in question, so I figured it out like so:

1. The Vampire weighs 72 kg "full" of blood.
2. 1 Vitae is .71 L (the average human has 7 vitae of blood and the average human has 5 L of blood.
3. Blood has a density of 1.06 kg/L, so we have .75 kg of blood per vitae.
4. I figured the speed at which the blood is ejected is probably about the same as a sneeze, which is about 100 mph, or 44.5 m/s.
5. Using this calculator, I plug in the numbers to discover that we have a Delta-V (change in velocity) of .47 m/s.

So the weight of the blood and the weight of the vampire are constants. How fast would the blood have to be ejected to accelerate your vampire up to 2 miles per second? Well, I ran the numbers, and it's just a little under 305,000 meters per second. Or, y'know, just about the speed of light.

This has been "Overthinking Vampire Physics". Please go about your business.

I'm pretty sure that the "Speed 1" that the devotion lists is supposed to be character speed, not ship speed. So approximately .3 m/s. If anything, that sounds too slow for a supernatural power that you pay XP for.

[Sir_Mopalot]

The real slap in the face of science, though, is the fact that that's your acceleration per use. Because there's no friction in space. Although I can understand not wanting to introduce vector physics into Vampire.

[Sith_Happens]

And White Wolf was almost ready to unveil Catgirl: the Meowing too. Thanks Playground.

[SiuiS]

And White Wolf was almost ready to unveil Catgirl: the Meowing too. Thanks Playground.

That would be an awesome game if they could actually devise a reason for it to exist.

[Lady Serpentine]

That would be an awesome game if they could actually devise a reason for it to exist.

Maybe a fansplat? I know there are three that get semi-regular play on here, so clearly they can be successful.

[Lord Raziere]

That would be an awesome game if they could actually devise a reason for it to exist.

first we just have to figure out what horrible curse they are forever haunted by that makes their life a living hell.

something about catgirls dying to physics discussions? or something science-related….

[Guancyto]

Whatever the fansplat might be, it needs to be compatible with Princess the Hopeful so there can be magical girl catgirls.

FUND IT.

[The Glyphstone]

Would Geniuses be their default antagonist?

[Lord Raziere]

Would Geniuses be their default antagonist?

nope, Geniuses aren't really scientists either. their stuff breaks down in the presence of real science too remember? a normal person breaks down their stuff fast, but a scientist even faster.

[Selrahc]

Normally hippopotami are terrifying. I can't imagine being ghouled makes them any less scary/dangerous/ill-tempered.

It definitely does. Ghouled animals become more placid and submissive until somebody angers their master.

[SiuiS]

It definitely does. Ghouled animals become more placid and submissive until somebody angers their master.

And then your avatar was hilarious

[Mewtarthio]

first we just have to figure out what horrible curse they are forever haunted by that makes their life a living hell.

Mortals that come too close to them suffer severe mental degradation, to the point were they can just coo and babble in babytalk. This renders them incapable of interacting with mortal society except to get affirmations that they are SUCH A CUTE KITTY YES YOU ARE!

[The Glyphstone]

It definitely does. Ghouled animals become more placid and submissive until somebody angers their master.

Note to self: Ban Nosferatu from acquiring sewer-dwelling hippopotami ghouls.

[Lady Serpentine]

Mortals that come too close to them suffer severe mental degradation, to the point were they can just coo and babble in babytalk. This renders them incapable of interacting with mortal society except to get affirmations that they are SUCH A CUTE KITTY YES YOU ARE!

...That's actually exceedingly creepy, but at the same time, it makes three splats that have some kind of thing that makes them incapable of normal interactions with humanity.

[Amechra]

You could base it entirely on proximity.

Heck, it could work...

[Sith_Happens]

Note to self: Ban Nosferatu from acquiring sewer-dwelling hippopotami ghouls.

Note to self: Start ghouling honey badgers.

[Lady Serpentine]

You could base it entirely on proximity.

Heck, it could work...

Still the question of if we want to do that, especially since it's pretty close to Leviathan, but yeah.