Minecraft Thread XII: Don't Kick the Bukkit

[ShneekeyTheLost]

Started playing Resonant Rise since the number of players on ShneekeyCraft pack are at 0 for the past couple of weeks, I figure it's mostly dead.

It's certainly different. Those who want All The Things(tm) are likely going to enjoy it.

[Domochevsky]

Started playing Resonant Rise since the number of players on ShneekeyCraft pack are at 0 for the past couple of weeks, I figure it's mostly dead.

It's certainly different. Those who want All The Things(tm) are likely going to enjoy it.

Whazzat?

[Triaxx]

It's a 1.6.4 mod pack. It uses something called the AT Launcher, which just links to the pages of mods they're not allowed to distribute, so you can download them.

I know nothing more since I don't play 1.6.4, because there's no Thermal Expansion.

[ShneekeyTheLost]

Whazzat?

To expand upon what Triaxx has said (and by the way, Thermal Expansion 3 is in early alpha testing, so your wish might be granted...)

The ATLauncher is also the launcher that both ShneekeyCraft and Resonant Rise is hosted through. As Triaxx said, because we don't want to offend mod authors (and please, let's not get into another twelve-page debate on that) the ATLauncher has a clever solution for including mods in mod packs without actually distributing the mods. Basically, it will pop up the mod author's download site so you can manually download and include it in your game.

Resonant Rise is... different. And huge. It contains Ars Magika 2, Thaumcraft 4, IC2-ex, and a BUNCH of other mods. Seriously, go check it out.

If you consider packs like Unleashed or Unhinged to be 'mainstream' packs, I'd call Resonant Rise an 'indie' pack. Go check it out.

[Ogremindes]

So having played on the snapshot server for a bit, I've worked out I'm not a fan of Amplified Terrain, at least for a general survival world. It's a giant pain to navigate with hunger an issue, there's no flat ground anywhere and there's so much noise: disconnected blocks and chunks of mountain everywhere. I cruised around for a while looking for a build site that caught my eye, and nothing ever did, it's crazy mountains pretty much all the time, so nothing stands out.

I think the best world-gen type is Large Biomes. While in HC2 it was a hassle to find new biomes, the large biomes did make for some epic scenery and a map that felt so much more "worldy" than the patchwork effect of the regular gen. Which is still present to an extent in 1.7.

[NecroRebel]

I think the best world-gen type is Large Biomes. While in HC2 it was a hassle to find new biomes, the large biomes did make for some epic scenery and a map that felt so much more "worldy" than the patchwork effect of the regular gen. Which is still present to an extent in 1.7.

While Large Biomes works well for building, it's a pain to find some or the rarer resources sometimes. Jungles and snow biomes don't provide too many necessary resources, but they can be nice to have. In the past I've had problems finding witches in nonstandard world gens, but now that they spawn in dim areas that shouldn't be a problem (I haven't actually updated to 1.7 due to waiting on mods).

[Domochevsky]

Hm... yeah, I get what you mean. So best would be some terrain generation that's Large and has only the mountain biomes be Amplified. (Well, some of them)

As far as I can tell Amplified does not contain any steppes or any sort of flat terrain in general, which is somewhat of a downfall of that.
(I wonder if the generation can be switched back to Large now without there being ugly seams at the borders...)

[Ogremindes]

(I wonder if the generation can be switched back to Large now without there being ugly seams at the borders...)

I don't believe so, sadly.

[Leon]

Hm... yeah, I get what you mean. So best would be some terrain generation that's Large and has only the mountain biomes be Amplified. (Well, some of them)

Extreme Mountain+

[Domochevsky]

Extreme Mountain+

...yes? Is there somethng you'd like to tell me with those two words?

[Leon]

...yes? Is there somethng you'd like to tell me with those two words?

About as close as your going to get to Amped without having Amped on

[ShneekeyTheLost]

Just to clarify, Shneekeycraft is not dead. I'll still be updating it. Youtube video clarifying my position is found here.

[Domochevsky]

hm, alright then. I a bout of madness a backup of the snapshot server has been made and the world generation changed to LARGE BIOMES. See if the borders aren't too bad.

If they are we'll revert back.

[Ogremindes]

hm, alright then. I a bout of madness a backup of the snapshot server has been made and the world generation changed to LARGE BIOMES. See if the borders aren't too bad.

If they are we'll revert back.

I tried to find out, but I couldn't tell you. I lapped the starting continent and then headed out about 3000 blocks without finding any new generation.

[Domochevsky]

I tried to find out, but I couldn't tell you. I lapped the starting continent and then headed out about 3000 blocks without finding any new generation.

Hm.... curious. Either the terrain generator didn't take it or someone already did that lap beforehand and no new terrain was generated at all since then.

Which would be weird either way.

[Ogremindes]

Hm.... curious. Either the terrain generator didn't take it or someone already did that lap beforehand and no new terrain was generated at all since then.

Which would be weird either way.

Not that weird given that boats are about the only effective way to get around the surface.

[leafman]

I think the terrain generator didn't take, I just traveled to z:-4500, still amplified terrain. I did find a few horses around x:13 y:94 z:2052.

[enderlord99]

Every time I launch a pack using ATlauncher, it almost loads, then closes the Minecraft instance and reopens the main part of the launcher.

[ShneekeyTheLost]

Every time I launch a pack using ATlauncher, it almost loads, then closes the Minecraft instance and reopens the main part of the launcher.

Read the crashlog?

What is your permagen? Which mod packs are you trying to use? Are you using 32 bit or 64 bit Java?

Details, details, details. I cannot make bricks without clay.

[enderlord99]

Read the crashlog? There isn't one; the launcher seems to think it's supposed to be doing what it's doing.

What is your permagen? Happens on both 256 and 512 Which mod packs are you trying to use? it happens for all of them Are you using 32 bit or 64 bit Java? 64, I think, but I'm not sure. I'm on Windows 7, if that answers it.

Answers in bold. Thanks (partly in advance) for the help!

[Saposhiente]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=am+I+running+32...it+windows&l=1
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=am+I+running+32+bit+or+64+bit+java

[leafman]

Did Domochevsky's server get reset?

[ShneekeyTheLost]

Answers in bold. Thanks (partly in advance) for the help!

There is always a log. If nothing else, there's the terminal log which will tell you what happened.

[Domochevsky]

Did Domochevsky's server get reset?

It shouldn't. I did another adjustment, plus cropping to see if the large biome generation would work now, but didn't get around to check myself yet. Did something vanish?
(And more importantly: Is it doing large biomes properly now?)

[leafman]

I think it is large biomes, I spawned in on the side of a cliff in a mountainous area but not extreme like amplified. Problem is, I have no idea where I am and dying doesn't take me back to my house, so I don't know if the area we all built in still exists.

[enderlord99]

There is always a log. If nothing else, there's the terminal log which will tell you what happened.

Where would I find this "terminal log?"

[ShneekeyTheLost]

Where would I find this "terminal log?"

When you run ATLauncher.jar, it opens up a console as well as the window. This has a 'copy log' button. Run it. Let it go back to the first screen. Click 'copy log'. Pastebin it.

[Ogremindes]

It shouldn't. I did another adjustment, plus cropping to see if the large biome generation would work now, but didn't get around to check myself yet. Did something vanish?
(And more importantly: Is it doing large biomes properly now?)

Yes large biomes, but the original terrain isn't at 0,0 or anywhere nearby. Also, seeing what the extreme hills are like now: stuff amplified, we've got plenty of crazy mountains already. Also also, spawning in extreme hills kinda sucks.

[Triaxx]

How so? I've had a few games where I spawned in Extreme Hills and had no problems.

[Ogremindes]

How so? I've had a few games where I spawned in Extreme Hills and had no problems.

Extreme hills and large biomes. A big swathe of hard-to-navigate terrain with scant wood and food is not an ideal starting location. Not impossible by any stretch, but kinda a pain at least.