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    Quote Originally Posted by snoopy13a View Post
    And a quick question about heresies. You can only attack heresies of your own religion, right? For example, a Catholic can attack Lollards and Cathars but not Monothelites or Nestorians?
    There's 3 levels, essentially, to religion.

    You have the religion group, which is broken down into Christian, Muslim, Pagan, Zoastrian, and Jewish.

    Then you have the specific religion. I'm not going to break down the Pagan. Christian is Catholic, Orthodox, and Miaphysite. Muslim is Shia and Sunni. The other two groups have only one religion.

    Each non-pagan religion (and reformed pagans) have their own heresies.

    Christians
    Catholic : Cathar, Fraticelli, Waldensian, Lollard
    Miaphysite : Monophysite
    Orthodox : Bogomilist, Nestorian, Monothelite, Iconoclast

    Muslims
    Sunni : Zikri, Yazidi, Ibadi
    Shia: Bektashi, Druze, Hurufi

    Zoroastrian
    Zoroastrian : Mazdaki, Manichaean

    Jewish
    Judaism : Samaritianism, Karaite

    If you are of the parent religion then valid Holy War targets are other religious groups and heresies of your religion. So Catholics may not attack Orthodox or their heresies. The exception to this is that Sunni Muslims can conduct Holy Wars against Shia Muslims.

    If you are a heresy, you may Holy War your parent religion, other heresies of your parent religion, or other religious groups.
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    Ugh, is there any way to make a bugged-out Grand Tournament end? The weekly "random noble has been maimed/killed/inconvenienced" popups are getting annoying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artanis View Post
    Ugh, is there any way to make a bugged-out Grand Tournament end? The weekly "random noble has been maimed/killed/inconvenienced" popups are getting annoying.
    Not sure. You could try and look up the event ID of the event that is supposed to fire at the end, and then use the console to manually fire that event. That should clear whatever flag is causing so much loss of life and limb.
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    IIRC, the Grant Tournament is cancelled if war is started...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AgentPaper View Post
    Not sure. You could try and look up the event ID of the event that is supposed to fire at the end, and then use the console to manually fire that event. That should clear whatever flag is causing so much loss of life and limb.
    Thanks, I'll look into that.

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    IIRC, the Grant Tournament is cancelled if war is started...
    The tournament ended, but it bugged out and the participants decided to stick around and keep stabbing each other anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talderas View Post
    The exception to this is that Sunni Muslims can conduct Holy Wars against Shia Muslims.
    Pagans can Holy War the same religion group as well. It's really just the Christians who get along, or at least have to pretend they get along for long enough to arrange the manure explosions.
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    Looks like using the console to call even 70002 worked. Now to break out the shovels and get all the corpses out of the foyer...
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesegear View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artanis View Post
    The tournament ended, but it bugged out and the participants decided to stick around and keep stabbing each other anyways.
    I fail to see the problem. If your vassals want to stick around and stab each other to death.... isn't this a good thing? It just saves you the task of offing them later. Do you have vassals that you are particularly attached do that you don't want to see die?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talderas View Post
    I fail to see the problem. If your vassals want to stick around and stab each other to death.... isn't this a good thing? It just saves you the task of offing them later. Do you have vassals that you are particularly attached do that you don't want to see die?
    It also kills your family. I remember reading a lets play that had that bug and every few years or so the realm had been completely purged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talderas View Post
    I fail to see the problem. If your vassals want to stick around and stab each other to death.... isn't this a good thing? It just saves you the task of offing them later. Do you have vassals that you are particularly attached do that you don't want to see die?
    Out of ~30 popups I think I wound up with two vassals hurt and one dead, with all the rest being random courtiers, only a couple of which were even mine. Even if I'd wanted vassals dead, it wasn't worth putting up with "a useless noble from the court of the Baron of Nowheresville needs a bandaid" popups every few days.
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    Aha! Now that the hotfix patch is out, I know what's wrong. I modified the game file that determines de jure territories ages ago, to allow Perm to form Russia. Now it won't let me do Ironman because the file isn't correct. Can someone dump the text for what that file should be?
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    I'm going to be honest, "the Welsh became a Great Power and conquered Germany" is almost exactly the opposite of the explanation I was expecting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flickerdart View Post
    Aha! Now that the hotfix patch is out, I know what's wrong. I modified the game file that determines de jure territories ages ago, to allow Perm to form Russia. Now it won't let me do Ironman because the file isn't correct. Can someone dump the text for what that file should be?
    Is a fresh install an option? Because if you've been modifying the game files directly that's what I would suggest; especially since you seem to have forgotten about this change until now. That way you know you'll have gotten everything. In the future you should probably make any changes you may want in the form of mods. That way you can avoid this issue completely.

    Also it seems Perm can form Russia, it even has a localized name. The devs must have changed it since your modifications.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguine View Post
    Is a fresh install an option? Because if you've been modifying the game files directly that's what I would suggest; especially since you seem to have forgotten about this change until now. That way you know you'll have gotten everything. In the future you should probably make any changes you may want in the form of mods. That way you can avoid this issue completely.

    Also it seems Perm can form Russia, it even has a localized name. The devs must have changed it since your modifications.
    Yeah, they changed it literally days after I altered that file. It's the only one I changed, though, so fixing it should bring Ironman up.
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    I'm going to be honest, "the Welsh became a Great Power and conquered Germany" is almost exactly the opposite of the explanation I was expecting

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    It's landed_titles.txt you altered right? Here's the section for the Empire of Russia (and all lower titles).

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    e_russia = {
    	color={ 147 164 104 }
    	color2={ 255 255 255 }
    	
    	capital = 547 # Kiev
    	
    	culture = russian
    	
    	allow = {
    		hidden_tooltip = {
    			OR = {
    				ai = no
    				culture_group = north_germanic
    				culture_group = east_slavic
    				culture_group = finno_ugric
    			}
    		}
    	}
    	
    	finnish = Suomi
    	lappish = Suomi
    	ugricbaltic = Suomi
    	komi = Suomi
    	samoyed = Suomi
    	mordvin = Suomi
    
    	k_rus = {
    		color={ 87 144 50 }
    		color2={ 255 255 255 }
    		
    		capital = 414 # Novgorod
    		
    		slavic_pagan_reformed = 500 # Crusade target weight
    		finnish_pagan_reformed = 300 # Crusade target weight
    		baltic_pagan_reformed = 100 # Crusade target weight
    		
    		norse = Garðariki
    		
    		culture = russian
    		
    		allow = {
    			hidden_tooltip = {
    				OR = {
    					ai = no
    					culture_group = north_germanic
    					culture_group = east_slavic
    					culture_group = finno_ugric
    				}
    			}
    		}
    		
    		d_beloozero = {
    			color={ 131 146 86 }
    			color2={ 255 255 255 }
    			
    			capital = 408 # Beloozero
    			finnish = "Chud"
    			samoyed = "Chud"
    			mordvin = "Chud"
    			lappish = "Chud"
    			komi = "Chud"
    			
    			c_beloozero = {
    				color={ 133 148 90 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    				
    				b_belozersk = {
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    				b_kirillobelozersky = {
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    				b_fedosyevo = {
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    				b_babayevo = {
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    				b_kinilov = {
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    				b_kaduy = {
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    				b_khoklovo = {
    				}
    				b_glushkovo = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_zaozerye = {
    				color={ 134 150 90 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    					
    				b_zarechnaya = {
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    				b_nazankha = {
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    				b_kharovsk = {
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    				b_afoninskaya = {
    				}
    				b_borisovskaya = {
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    				b_konechnaya = {
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    				b_pashuchikha = {
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    				b_bolshaya = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_chud = {
    				color={ 138 154 94 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    					
    				b_totma = {
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    				b_krbor = {
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    				b_kamchuga = {
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    				b_chunlovka = {
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    				b_zalese = {
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    				b_krutayaosyp = {
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    				b_veldvor = {
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    				b_zaytsevo = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_vologda = {
    				color={ 141 158 98 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    					
    				b_vologda = {
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    				b_kadnikovskaya = {
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    				b_sokol = {
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    				b_uste = {
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    				b_bolshayamurga = {
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    				b_dvinitsa = {
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    				b_motyn = {
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    				b_staroye = {
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    			}
    		}
    		d_novgorod = {
    			color={ 107 164 64 }
    			color2={ 255 255 255 }
    			
    			capital = 414 # Novgorod
    			
    			swedish = "Holmgård"
    			norse = "Holmgarðr"
    			danish = "Holmgård"
    			norwegian = "Holmgård"
    			
    			pagan_coa = {
    				template = 0
    				layer = {
    					texture = 2
    					texture_internal = 4
    					emblem = 0
    					color = 0
    					color = 0
    					color = 0
    				}
    				religion = "norse_pagan"
    			}
    			
    			c_bezhetsky_verh = { # Ladoga
    				color={ 144 161 101 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    				
    				finnish = "Nevajärvi"
    					
    				b_bezhetsk = { # Staraya Ladoga
    					swedish = "Aldeigjuborg"
    					norse = "Aldeigjuborg"
    					danish = "Aldeigjuborg"
    					norwegian = "Aldeigjuborg"
    					finnish = "Alodejoki"
    				}
    				b_spasnakholmu = {
    					swedish = "Spångsholm"
    					norse = "Spångsholmr"
    					danish = "Spångsholm"
    					norwegian = "Spngsholm"
    				}
    				b_sonkovo = { # Gorodishche
    					swedish = "Alaborg"
    					norse = "Alaborg"
    					danish = "Alaborg"
    					norwegian = "Alaborg"
    				}
    				b_kyasovagora = { # Duboviki
    				}
    				b_maksatikha = {
    				}
    				b_molokovo = { # Stolbova
    				}
    				b_rameshki = { # Diderino
    				}
    				b_obrosovo = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_torzhok = {
    				color={ 140 30 30 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    			
    				b_yamskygorodok = {
    				}
    				b_shcheremenski = {
    				}
    				b_kingisepp = {
    					swedish = "Jamborg"
    					norse = "Jamborg"
    					danish = "Jamburg"
    					norwegian = "Jamburg"
    					german = "Jamburg"
    					finnish = "Jaama"
    					samoyed = "Jaama"
    					mordvin = "Jaama"
    					lappish = "Jaama"
    					komi = "Jaama"
    				}
    				b_volosovo = {
    				}
    				b_konnovo = {
    				}
    				b_vistino = {
    				}
    				b_komarovka = {
    				}
    				b_vassakara = {
    				}
    			}		
    			c_novgorod = {
    				color={ 149 166 106 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    				
    				swedish = "Holmgård"
    				norse = "Holmgarðr"
    				danish = "Holmgård"
    				norwegian = "Holmgård"
    						
    				b_borovichi = {
    					norse = Nygarðr
    					swedish = Nygård
    					norwegian = Nygård
    					danish = Nygård
    				}
    				b_novgorod = {
    					swedish = "Holmgård"
    					norse = "Holmgarðr"
    					danish = "Holmgård"
    					norwegian = "Holmgård"
    				}
    				b_tikhvin = {
    					holy_site = slavic_pagan
    					holy_site = slavic_pagan_reformed
    					holy_site = finnish_pagan
    					holy_site = finnish_pagan_reformed								
    				}
    				b_chudovo = {
    				}
    				b_okulovka = {
    				}
    				b_boldorki = {
    				}
    				b_pestovo = {
    				}
    				b_luga = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_pskov = {
    				color={ 151 167 107 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    				
    				german = "Pleskau"
    						
    				b_ostrov = {
    				}
    				b_pskov = {
    				}
    				b_pechory = {
    				}
    				b_gdov = {
    				}
    				b_porkhov = {
    				}
    				b_dedovichi = {
    				}
    				b_svyatogorki = {
    				}
    				b_soltchi = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_velikiye_luki = {
    				color={ 154 170 110 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    						
    				b_velikiyeluki = {
    				}
    				b_sebezh = {
    				}
    				b_nevel = {
    				}
    				b_opochka = {
    				}
    				b_bely = {
    				}
    				b_usvyaty = {
    				}
    				b_loknya = {
    				}
    				b_staryatoropa = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_toropets = {
    				color={ 157 173 113 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    						
    				b_staryarussa = {
    				}
    				b_valday = {
    				}
    				b_toropets = {
    				}
    				b_demyansk = {
    				}
    				b_shimsk = {
    				}
    				b_dno = {
    				}
    				b_lychkovo = {
    				}
    				b_kresttsy = {
    				}
    			}
    		}
    		d_rostov = {
    			color={ 124 137 89 }
    			color2={ 255 255 255 }
    			
    			capital = 574 # Rostov
    			
    			c_pereyaslavl_zalessky = {
    				color={ 163 179 119 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    						
    				b_pereyaslavlzalessky = {
    				}
    				b_sergiyevposad = {
    				}
    				b_aleksandrov = {
    				}
    				b_strunino = {
    				}
    				b_karabanovo = {
    				}
    				b_kubrinsk = {
    				}
    				b_kupanskoye = {
    				}
    				b_khmelniki = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_rostov = {
    				color={ 166 180 122 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    				
    				swedish = "Radstofa"
    				norse = "Radstofa"
    				danish = "Radstofa"
    				norwegian = "Radstofa"
    				komi=Merya
    				mordvin=Merya
    				samoyed=Merya
    				finnish=Merya
    				lappish=Merya
    					
    				b_sarskoyegorodishche = {
    					komi=Merya
    					mordvin=Merya
    					samoyed=Merya
    					finnish=Merya
    					lappish=Merya
    				}
    				b_spasoyakovlevsky = {			
    				}
    				b_rostov = {
    					swedish = "Radstofa"
    					norse = "Radstofa"
    					danish = "Radstofa"
    					norwegian = "Radstofa"
    				}
    				b_petrovskoye = {
    				}
    				b_gavrilovyam = {
    				}
    				b_borisoglebsky = {
    				}
    				b_karash = {
    				}
    				b_shurskol = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_uglich = {
    				color={ 169 183 125 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    					
    				b_uglich = {
    				}
    				b_pertoma = {
    				}
    				b_kashin = {
    				}
    				b_kalyazin = {
    				}
    				b_ustscheksna = {
    				}
    				b_myshkin = {
    				}
    				b_tikhmenevo = {
    				}
    				b_novynekouz = {
    				}
    			}
    		}
    		d_tver = {
    			color={ 169 183 125 }
    			color2={ 255 255 255 }
    			
    			capital = 570 # Tver
    			
    			c_tver = {
    				color={ 172 186 128 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    					
    				b_tver = {
    				}
    				b_torzhok = {
    				}
    				b_ostashkov = {
    				}
    				b_bezhichi = {
    				}
    				b_tvergorodok = {
    				}
    				b_vyshnyvolochyok = {
    				}
    				b_zubtsov = {
    				}
    				b_udomelski = {
    				}
    			}
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    				color={ 175 189 131 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    					
    				b_vyazma = {
    				}
    				b_dukhov = {
    				}
    				b_yelnya = {
    				}
    				b_gzhatsky = {
    				}
    				b_dorogobuzh = {
    				}
    				b_vyazkholm = {
    				}
    				b_ugra = {
    				}
    				b_safonovo = {
    				}
    			}
    		}
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    			color={ 178 192 134 }
    			color2={ 255 255 255 }
    			
    			capital = 572 # Yaroslavl
    			
    			c_kostroma = {
    				color={ 181 195 137 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    						
    				b_kostroma = {
    				}
    				b_sudislavl = {
    				}
    				b_plyos = {
    				}
    				b_nerektha = {
    				}
    				b_apraksino = {
    				}
    				b_kosmynino = {
    				}
    				b_zavolzhsk = {
    				}
    				b_nekrasoskoye = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_yaroslavl = {
    				color={ 184 198 140 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    				
    				b_timerevo = {
    				}
    				b_yaroslavl = {
    				}
    				b_tolga = {
    				}
    				b_romanov = {
    				}
    				b_semibratovo = {
    				}
    				b_karabikha = {
    				}
    				b_putyatino = {
    				}
    				b_volgostroy = {
    				}
    			}
    		}
    		d_vladimir = {
    			color={ 180 200 90 }
    			color2={ 255 255 255 }
    			
    			capital = 582 # Vladimir
    	
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    				color={ 190 204 146 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    						
    				b_galichmersky = {
    				}
    				b_levkovo = {
    				}
    				b_gradmersky = {
    				}
    				b_buy = {
    				}
    				b_chistyebory = {
    				}
    				b_susanino = {
    				}
    				b_kadyy = {
    				}
    				b_isaevo = {
    				}
    			}
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    				color={ 193 207 149 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    						
    				b_gorodez = {
    				}
    				b_feodorovsky = {
    				}
    				b_kitezh = {
    				}
    				b_puchishche = {
    				}
    				b_pravdinsk = {
    				}
    				b_lukh = {
    				}
    				b_gorkovskoye = {
    				}
    				b_sokolskoye = {
    				}
    			}
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    				color={ 196 210 152 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    				
    				komi=Ashli
    				mordvin=Ashli
    				samoyed=Ashli
    				finnish=Ashli
    				lappish=Ashli
    				cuman=Ashli
    				pecheneg=Ashli
    				mongol=Ashli
    				turkish=Ashli
    				avar=Ashli
    						
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    					mordvin=Ashli
    					samoyed=Ashli
    					finnish=Ashli
    					lappish=Ashli
    					cuman=Ashli
    					pecheneg=Ashli
    					mongol=Ashli
    					turkish=Ashli
    					avar=Ashli
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    				b_sarov = {
    				}
    				b_bor = {
    				}
    				b_kstovo = {
    				}
    				b_knyaginino = {
    				}
    				b_vasilyeva = {
    				}
    				b_balakhna = {
    				}
    				b_bogorodsk = {
    				}
    			}
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    				color={ 199 213 155 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    				
    				swedish = "Sursdalar"
    				norse = "Sursdalar"
    				danish = "Sursdalar"
    				norwegian = "Sursdalar"
    						
    				b_suzdal = {
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    					norse = "Sursdalar"
    					danish = "Sursdalar"
    					norwegian = "Sursdalar"
    				}
    				b_bogolyubovo = {
    				}
    				b_suzstarodub = {
    				}
    				b_suzivanovo = {
    				}
    				b_kovrov = {
    				}
    				b_seredaupino = {
    				}
    				b_teykovo = {
    				}
    				b_lezhnevo = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_vladimir = {
    				color={ 202 216 158 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    						
    				b_vladimir = {
    				}
    				b_yuryevpolsky = {
    				}
    				b_volochok = {
    				}
    				b_undol = {
    				}
    				b_petuschki = {
    				}
    				b_sudogda = {
    				}
    				b_sobinka = {
    				}
    				b_kosterevo = {
    				}
    			}
    		}
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    			color={ 207 222 123 }
    			color2={ 255 255 255 }
    			
    			capital = 575 # Moskva
    			
    			c_mozhaysk = {
    				color={ 228 168 7 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    			
    				b_volgamozhaysk = {
    				}
    				b_shakhunya = {
    				}
    				b_yaransk = {
    				}
    				b_vakhtan = {
    				}
    				b_varnavino = {
    				}
    				b_kiknur = {
    				}
    				b_tonshaevo = {
    				}
    				b_uren = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_moskva = {
    				color={ 220 235 176 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    				
    				b_moskva = {
    				}
    				b_rogozhi = {
    				}
    				b_kaluga = {
    				}
    				b_serpukhov = {
    				}
    				b_belyov = {
    				}
    				b_mozhaysk = {
    				}
    				b_rzhev = {
    				}
    				b_klin = {
    				}
    			}
    		}
    	}
    	
    	k_ruthenia = {
    		color={ 147 164 104 }
    		color2={ 255 255 255 }
    		
    		capital = 547 # Kiev
    		
    		culture = russian
    		
    		slavic_pagan_reformed = 500 # Crusade target weight
    		baltic_pagan_reformed = 100 # Crusade target weight
    		tengri_pagan_reformed = 100
    		finnish_pagan_reformed = 100
    		
    		allow = {
    			hidden_tooltip = {
    				OR = {
    					ai = no
    					culture_group = north_germanic
    					culture_group = east_slavic 
    				}
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    		}
    		
    		norse = Könugarðr
    		swedish = Könugård
    		norwegian = Kønugård
    		danish = Kønugård
    		
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    			color={ 129 187 125 }
    			color2={ 255 255 255 }
    			
    			dignity = 10 # Counted as having 10 more counties than it does
    			capital = 547 # Kiev
    			
    			norse = Könugarðr
    			swedish = Könugård
    			norwegian = Kønugård
    			danish = Kønugård
    			
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    				template = 0
    				layer = {
    					texture = 2
    					texture_internal = 1
    					emblem = 0
    					color = 0
    					color = 0
    					color = 0
    				}
    				religion = "norse_pagan"
    			}
    	
    			c_korsun = {
    				color={ 102 102 22 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    	
    				b_korsun = {
    				}
    				b_kaniv = {
    				}
    				b_cherkassy = {
    				}
    				b_smila = {
    				}
    				b_zolotonosha = {
    				}
    				b_uman = {
    				}
    				b_zhuravky = {
    				}
    				b_mirov = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_kiev = {
    				color={ 106 106 26 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    				
    				norse = Könugarðr
    				swedish = Könugård
    				norwegian = Kønugård
    				danish = Kønugård
    	
    				b_kiev = {
    					norse = Könugarðr
    					swedish = Könugård
    					norwegian = Kønugård
    					danish = Kønugård
    				}
    				b_yuriev = {
    					holy_site = slavic_pagan
    					holy_site = slavic_pagan_reformed				
    				}
    				b_iskorosten = {
    				}
    				b_vyshhorod = {
    				}
    				b_ovruch = {
    				}
    				b_zhitomir = {
    				}
    				b_malyn = {
    				}
    				b_fastiv = {
    				}
    			}
    		}
    		d_galich = {
    			color={ 224 112 130 }
    			color2={ 255 255 255 }
    			
    			capital = 536 # Galich
    			
    			c_terebovl = {
    				color={ 104 104 24 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    	
    				b_terebovl = {
    				}
    				b_pochayivlavra = {
    				}
    				b_bratslav = {
    				}
    				b_kremenets = {
    				}
    				b_borschiv = {
    				}
    				b_vinnytsia = {
    				}
    				b_buchach = {
    				}
    				b_zalischyky = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_galich = {
    				color={ 254 255 215 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    	
    				b_galich = {
    				}
    				b_lvov = {
    				}
    				b_dubno = {
    				}
    				b_vasyliv = {
    				}
    				b_kolomyia = {
    				}
    				b_ternopil = {
    				}
    				b_buzhsk = {
    				}
    				b_brody = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_peremyshl = {
    				color={ 254 255 218 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    	
    				b_peremyshl = {
    				}
    				b_jaroslav = {
    				}
    				b_sanok = {
    				}
    				b_lubaczow = {
    				}
    				b_grodek = {
    				}
    				b_rzeszow = {
    				}
    				b_volkrosno = {
    				}
    				b_jaslo = {
    				}
    			}
    		}
    		d_volhynia = {
    			color={ 204 155 121 }
    			color2={ 255 255 255 }
    			
    			capital = 535 # Vladimir Volynsky
    	
    			c_vladimir_volynsky = {
    				color={ 255 255 223 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    	
    				b_vladimirvolynsky = {
    				}
    				b_kovel = {
    				}
    				b_kholm = {
    				}
    				b_ivanichy = {
    				}
    				b_hrubieszow = {
    				}
    				b_torchyn = {
    				}
    				b_cherven = {
    				}
    				b_luboml = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_beresty = {
    				color={ 255 255 225 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    	
    				b_beresty = {
    				}
    				b_bielsk = {
    				}
    				b_kobryn = {
    				} 
    				b_kamyanyets = {
    				}
    				b_mielnik = {
    				}
    				b_lublin = {
    				}
    				b_wlodawa = {
    				}
    				b_parczew = {
    				}
    			}
    		}
    		d_turov = {
    			color={ 166 85 87 }
    			color2={ 255 255 255 }
    			
    			capital = 552 # Turov
    			
    			c_turov = {
    				color={ 166 89 91 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    				
    				b_turov = {
    				}
    				b_dubrovitsya = {
    				}
    				b_mazyr = {
    				}
    				b_slutsk = {
    				}
    				b_zhytkavichy = {
    				}
    				b_bobruisk = {
    				}
    				b_petrykaw = {
    				}
    				b_yelsk = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_pinsk = {
    				color={ 166 93 95 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    				
    				b_pinsk = {
    				}
    				b_lutsk = {
    				}
    				b_porkhovo = {
    				}
    				b_biaroza = {
    				}
    				b_stepan = {
    				}
    				b_kosava = {
    				}
    				b_luninets = {
    				}
    				b_dabuchin = {
    				}
    			}
    		}
    		
    		d_vitebsk = {
    			color={ 196 33 55 }
    			color2={ 255 255 255 }
    			
    			capital = 417 # Vitebsk
    			
    			c_minsk = {
    				color={ 174 43 43 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    				
    				b_minsk = {
    				}
    				b_maladzyechna = {
    				}
    				b_borisow = {
    				}
    				b_kletsk = {
    				}
    				b_berezino = {
    				}
    				b_nesvizh = {
    				}
    				b_valozhyn = {
    				}
    				b_kapyl = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_orsha = {
    				color={ 174 47 47 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    				
    				b_orsha = {
    				}
    				b_novolukomi = {
    				}
    				b_talachyn = {
    				}
    				b_sianno = {
    				}
    				b_shklou = {
    				} 
    				b_kopys = {
    				}
    				b_horki = {
    				}
    				b_larynouka = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_vitebsk = {
    				color={ 174 51 51 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    				
    				b_vitebsk = {
    				}
    				b_sakolniki = {
    				}
    				b_haradok = {
    				}
    				b_drazdy = {
    				}
    				b_ruba = {
    				}
    				b_liozno = {
    				}
    				b_stryzhava = {
    				}
    				b_baroniki = {
    				}
    			}
    		}
    		
    		d_smolensk = {
    			color={ 226 241 182 }
    			color2={ 255 255 255 }
    			
    			capital = 568 # Smolensk
    			
    			c_smolensk = {
    				color={ 229 244 185 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    				
    				swedish = "Smaleskja"
    				norse = "Smaleskja"
    				danish = "Smaleskja"
    				norwegian = "Smaleskja"
    					
    				b_smolensk = {
    					swedish = "Smaleskja"
    					norse = "Smaleskja"
    					danish = "Smaleskja"
    					norwegian = "Smaleskja"
    				}
    				b_velizh = {
    				}
    				b_demidov = {
    				}
    				b_krasnoi = {
    				}
    				b_przhevalskoye = {
    				}
    				b_rodnya = {
    				}
    				b_yartsevo = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_roslavl = {
    				color={ 239 242 185 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    					
    				b_roslavl = {
    				}
    				b_pochinok = {
    				}
    				b_chocimsk = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_mstislavl = {
    				color={ 232 247 188 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    					
    				b_mstitslavl = {
    				}
    				b_krychaw = {
    				}
    				b_mogilev = {
    				}
    				b_bychaw = {
    				}
    				b_chavusy = {
    				}
    				b_zhlobin = {
    				}
    				b_chachersk = {
    				}
    				b_rahacou = {
    				}
    			}
    		}
    		d_chernigov = {
    			color={ 150 235 91 }
    			color2={ 255 255 255 }
    			
    			capital = 554 # Chernigov
    			
    			c_lyubech = {
    				color={ 238 253 194 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    	
    				b_lyubech = {
    				}
    				b_rechytsa = {
    				}
    				b_gomel = {
    				}
    				b_brahin = {
    				}
    				b_loyew = {
    				}
    				b_zlynka = {
    				}
    				b_klimovo = {
    				}
    				b_novozybkov = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_chernigov = {
    				color={ 242 255 197 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    	
    				b_chernigov = {
    				}
    				b_kozelets = {
    				}
    				b_nizhyn = {
    				}
    				b_borzna = {
    				}
    				b_horodnia = {
    				}
    				b_gorodets = {
    				}
    				b_sosnytsia = {
    				}
    				b_mglin = {
    				}
    			}
    		}
    		
    		d_novgorod-seversk = { # Called Bryansk in-game
    			color = { 120 155 40 }
    			color2={ 255 255 255 }
    			
    			capital = 567 # Novgorod Seversky
    	
    			c_novgorod_seversky = {
    				color={ 19 128 77 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    	
    				b_novgorodseversky = {
    				}
    				b_starodub = {
    				}
    				b_glukhov = {
    				}
    				b_rysk = {
    				}
    				b_putivl = {
    				}
    				b_trubchevsk = {
    				}
    				b_sevsk = {
    				}
    				b_semenivka = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_bryansk = {
    				color={ 223 238 179 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    				
    				b_bryansk = {
    				}
    				b_pochep = {
    					holy_site = baltic_pagan
    					holy_site = baltic_pagan_reformed
    				}
    				b_orel = {
    				}
    				b_karachev = {
    				}
    				b_dyatkovo = {
    				}
    				b_klynov = {
    				}
    				b_belev = {
    				}
    				b_mtsensk = {
    				}
    			}
    		}
    		
    		d_ryazan = {
    			color={ 110 115 45 }
    			color2={ 255 255 255 }
    			
    			capital = 580 # Ryazan
    			
    			c_pronsk = {
    				color={ 22 131 80 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    	
    				b_pronsk = {
    				}
    				b_yelets = {
    				}
    				b_tula = {
    				}
    				b_mikhaylov = {
    				}
    				b_skopin = {
    				}
    				b_ryazhsk = {
    				}
    				b_sergijewskoje = {
    				}
    				b_bogoroditsk = {
    				}
    			}	
    			c_murom = {
    				color={ 208 222 164 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    				
    				swedish = "Moramar"
    				norse = "Moramar"
    				danish = "Moramar"
    				norwegian = "Moramar"
    				
    				b_murom = {
    					swedish = "Moramar"
    					norse = "Moramar"
    					danish = "Moramar"
    					norwegian = "Moramar"
    				}
    				b_moramar = {
    				}
    				b_melenki = {
    				}
    				b_vyksa = {
    				}
    				b_kulebaki = {
    				}
    				b_vilya = {
    				}
    				b_mordovshchikovo = {
    				}
    				b_lipnya = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_ryazan = {
    				color={ 211 225 167 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    					
    				b_ryazan = {
    				}
    				b_solotcha = {
    					holy_site = finnish_pagan
    					holy_site = finnish_pagan_reformed
    				}
    				b_grodets = {
    				}
    				b_spassk = {
    				}
    				b_korablino = {
    				}
    				b_rybnino = {
    				}
    				b_sasovo = {
    				}
    				b_klepiki = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_kolomna = {
    				color={ 214 228 170 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    				
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    				}
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    				}
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    				}
    				b_ramenskoye = {
    				}
    				b_egorevsk = {
    				}
    				b_peski = {
    				}
    				b_cherkizovo = {
    				}
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    		}
    		
    		d_pereyaslavl = {
    			color={ 232 200 115 }
    			color2={ 255 255 255 }
    			
    			capital = 555 # Pereyaslavl
    		
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    				color={ 235 205 118 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    				
    				b_pereyaslavl = {
    				}
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    				}
    				b_hadyach = {
    				}
    				b_chornukhy = {
    				}
    				b_hrebinka = {
    				}
    				b_lokhvytsia = {
    				}
    				b_boryspil = {
    				}
    				b_velykisorochyntsi = {
    				}
    			}
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    				color={ 234 194 88 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    			
    				b_ltava = {
    				}
    				b_chortitza = {
    				}
    				b_baszmacka = {
    				}
    				b_lubny = {
    				}
    				b_alexandrowsk = {
    				}
    				b_rasumowka = {
    				}
    				b_vosnesjensk = {
    				}
    				b_khorol = {
    				}
    			}
    		}
    	}
    	
    	k_perm = {
    		color={ 204 188 127 }
    		color2={ 255 255 255 }
    		
    		capital = 886 # Perm
    		
    		finnish_pagan_reformed = 500 # Crusade target weight
    		slavic_pagan_reformed = 100 # Crusade target weight
    		tengri_pagan_reformed = 50
    		
    		culture = komi
    		
    		# Creation/usurpation trigger
    		allow = {
    			hidden_tooltip = {
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    					ai = no
    					culture_group = finno_ugric
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    			color={ 234 208 137 }
    			color2={ 255 255 255 }
    			
    			capital = 886 # Perm
    		
    			c_perm = {
    				color={ 237 211 140 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    			
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    				}
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    				}
    				b_chemuska = {
    				}
    				b_biser = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_votyaki = {
    				color={ 197 162 67 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    			
    				b_achit = {
    				}
    				b_sarana = {
    				}
    				b_ufimskiy = {
    				}
    				b_bisert = {
    				}
    				b_arti = {
    				}
    				b_atig = {
    				}
    				b_shalya = {
    				}
    				b_shamary = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_yamalia = {
    				color={ 240 214 143 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    			
    				b_polnovatvozh = {
    				}
    				b_obdorsk = {
    				}
    				b_lapytnangk = {
    				}
    				b_ituyakha = {
    				}
    				b_urengoi = {
    				}
    				b_nazym = {
    				}
    				b_baygul = {
    				}
    				b_kaek = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_komi = {
    				color={ 243 217 146 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    			
    				b_inta = {
    				}
    				b_vorkuta = {
    				}
    				b_ustkolom = {
    				}
    				b_usttsilma = {
    				}
    				b_aykino = {
    				}
    				b_vorgashor = {
    				}
    				b_kharp = {
    				}
    				b_khalmeryu = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_chelyabi = {
    				color={ 246 220 149 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    			
    				b_chelyabinsk = {
    				}
    				b_ustkatav = {
    				}
    				b_asha = {
    				}
    				b_chebarkul = {
    				}
    				b_kaslinsky = {
    				}
    				b_kyshtym = {
    				}
    				b_miass = {
    				}
    				b_satka = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_khantia = {
    				color={ 249 223 152 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    			
    				b_chanty = {
    				}
    				b_beloyarskiy = {
    				}
    				b_igrim = {
    				}
    				b_berezovo = {
    				}
    				b_pnobe = {
    				}
    				b_nyagyn = {
    				}
    				b_djinesh = {
    				}
    				b_sherkala = {
    				}
    			}
    		}
    		d_hlynov = { # Ugra
    			color={ 134 145 31 }
    			color2={ 255 255 255 }
    			
    			capital = 401 # Hlynov
    			
    			c_hlynov = {
    				color={ 116 131 71 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    				
    				b_hlynov = {
    				}
    				b_egra = {
    				}
    				b_glazkar = {
    				}
    				b_izkar = {
    				}
    				b_kambarka = {
    				}
    				b_sarapul = {
    				}
    				b_mozjga = {
    				}
    				b_wotka = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_zyriane = {
    				color={ 195 160 65 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    			
    				b_kungur = {
    				}
    				b_kordon = {
    				}
    				b_suksun = {
    				}
    				b_kukushtan = {
    				}
    				b_gari = {
    				}
    				b_lek = {
    				}
    				b_ergach = {
    				}
    				b_posad = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_ugra = {
    				color={ 119 134 74 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    				
    				b_ukhta = {
    				}
    				b_sosnogorsk = {
    				}
    				b_yarega = {
    				}
    				b_vodnyy = {
    				}
    				b_nizhodes = {
    				}
    				b_vuktyl = {
    				}
    				b_kadzherom = {
    				}
    				b_voyvozh = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_syrj = {
    				color={ 122 137 77 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    				
    				b_syktyvkar = {
    				}
    				b_pyras = {
    				}
    				b_yugydyag = {
    				}
    				b_mikun = {
    				}
    				b_emva = {
    				}
    				b_ezhva = {
    				}
    				b_sindor = {
    				}
    				b_zheshart = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_veliky_ustug = {
    				color={ 125 140 80 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    				
    				b_velikyustug = {
    				}
    				b_gleden = {
    				}
    				b_krasavino = {
    				}
    				b_luza = {
    				}
    				b_pinyug = {
    				}
    				b_podosinovets = {
    				}
    				b_maromitsa = {
    				}
    				b_oparino = {
    				}
    			}
    		}
    		
    		d_bjarmia = {
    			color = { 81 50 20 }
    			color2={ 255 255 255 }
    			
    			capital = 396 # Bjarmia
    			
    			culture = komi
    			
    			c_romny = {
    				color={ 128 143 83 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    				
    				b_romny = {
    				}
    				b_ugol = {
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    				b_vozhega = {
    				}
    				b_marinskaya = {
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    				b_yuchka = {
    				}
    				b_bykovskaya = {
    				}
    				b_kholuy = {
    				}
    				b_vysokaya = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_trans-portage = {
    				color={ 103 118 58 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    				
    				b_kargopol = {
    				}
    				b_solovetsky = {
    				}
    				b_shenkursk = {
    				}
    				b_konosha = {
    				}
    				b_nyandoma = {
    				}
    				b_plesetsk = {
    				}
    				b_samoded = {
    				}
    				b_obozerskiy = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_north_dvina = {
    				color={ 106 121 61 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    				
    				b_kholmogory = {
    				}
    				b_nikolokorelski = {
    				}
    				b_solvychegodsk = {
    				}
    				b_novokholmogory = {
    				}
    				b_antonievosiysky = {
    				}
    				b_koryazhma = {
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    				b_usolsk = {
    				}
    				b_archangelsk = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_bjarmia = {
    				color={ 109 124 64 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    				
    				b_okladnikowa = {
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    				b_okulovsky = {				
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    				b_kusnezowa = {
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    				b_kamenka = {
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    				b_pinega = {
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    				b_mezen = {
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    				b_kimzha = {
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    				b_lampozhnya = {
    				}
    			}
    			c_samoyeds = {
    				color={ 100 115 55 }
    				color2={ 255 255 255 }
    				
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    				b_sukhanikha = {
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    Well, this is dumb. I pasted in that text. Didn't work. So I reinstalled the game. Not only did that not work, but now I'm missing button graphics for main menu buttons!
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    So with VIET 1.5.1 finally out, I got around to playing as a West African Pagan in 867. Due to the more Ireland-like structure it has, it's been rather fun. That is until the Idrisids from above went from 4.5k troops to 11k in around 30 years. I think the AI now knows how to handle decadence better.

    Speaking of whcih, after getting stomped flat in an attempted attack on the Idrisids (they were fighting two other Muslim dynasties so I thought it was worth I try) I went, "why hasn't PI fixed the lack of defensive attrition for West Africans yet?" Then I went on the forums and learned that it was never fixed because West African Pagans are not designed to have defensive attrition.

    I am not amused.

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    If you're playing West Africans, or interested in doing so, I recommend the Somewhat More Historical Map mod, it really fleshes out that whole area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starsign View Post
    So with VIET 1.5.1 finally out, I got around to playing as a West African Pagan in 867. Due to the more Ireland-like structure it has, it's been rather fun. That is until the Idrisids from above went from 4.5k troops to 11k in around 30 years. I think the AI now knows how to handle decadence better.

    Speaking of whcih, after getting stomped flat in an attempted attack on the Idrisids (they were fighting two other Muslim dynasties so I thought it was worth I try) I went, "why hasn't PI fixed the lack of defensive attrition for West Africans yet?" Then I went on the forums and learned that it was never fixed because West African Pagans are not designed to have defensive attrition.

    I am not amused.
    Wait, what? Then what are they supposed to have? Are they just there as a stomping partner for the western muslim nations?
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    Wait, what? Then what are they supposed to have? Are they just there as a stomping partner for the western muslim nations?
    I think that does pretty much sum up what they are, yes.
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    Wait, what? Then what are they supposed to have? Are they just there as a stomping partner for the western muslim nations?
    Pretty much, yeah. There's a couple others like that in the game too (the Miawhatsits below Egypt come to mind).
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    Pretty much, yeah. There's a couple others like that in the game too (the Miawhatsits below Egypt come to mind).
    The Miaphysites are actually competent, though - if you can surge north and take Egypt in the middle of an Abbasid civil war, you've got sea access and your Pope reinstated and can form the Empire of Abyssinia. You can also marry Christians for allies, and use mercenaries. With West Africa, marriage to anyone else is out of the question, you have a single rubbish merc you share with everyone else in Africa, and the Umayyads roflstomp the Idrisids pretty quick and then sit around having ridiculous stability.
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    I agree with Flickerdart, i usually see the Miaphysites do pretty well. Not usually well enough to actually make gains, but well enough to survive the sunni's.
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    The biggest thing helping the Ethiopians is probably that the Abassids tend to have absurd decadence (I've seen it hit 100% more than once) which results in crippling civil wars. Umayyads seem to manage their decadence pretty well.
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    Yeah, they changed it literally days after I altered that file. It's the only one I changed, though, so fixing it should bring Ironman up.
    Why didn't you set this up as a mod?
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    Despite West Africa's... impossibly skewered condition, I found that it is left quite alone so far in my game. The Idrisids have a Content ruler (in VIET, certain traits like Content make you unable to announce any war that isn't a de jure or a claim on the behalf of someone else) but seemed more interested in expanding east before then. The Umayyads also seem content to simply stay in Al-Andalus (aka Spain, which VIET allows me to rename to a number of options) so I'm keeping a watch on them both while I work on improving the Kingdom of Mali (West Africa in VIET is separated into 3 kingdoms, Mali, Songhay, and Jolof. Taking two of the three allows me to form the Mali Empire)

    Another cool thing in VIET is that it expands provinces westward to allow for coastal provinces, so I don't need to force my way upward to expand. West African Ireland anyone?
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    Another cool thing in VIET is that it expands provinces westward to allow for coastal provinces, so I don't need to force my way upward to expand. West African Ireland anyone?
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    Speaking of Vikings, I just had my most intense war ever in CKII. I started as a Cathar Countess in Old Gods Ireland (spear-stabbing in wars over gender equality leads to far too many euphamisms to pass up ), and Ivar Doomstack had picked off C.Ulster shortly before passing away and shortly after I became Queen of Ireland. So when his son joined his Jorvik ally in munching on what was left of England after depleting his levies putting down a peasant revolt, I declared a Holy War For Ulster, spent 3 years' income on mercenaries, raised every levy I could find in my 8-county "Kingdom", and started assaulting every depleted holding I could get to.

    The result was me wiping out over 6000 Jorvik troops as they filtered to the front piecemeal and the warscore ticking to 100% just four days before a 5K stack ran down and wiped out the shattered remains of my forces
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    So playing Crusader Kings 2, I've realized something about the 2.0 patch. Is it just me or are uprisings (specifically successor revolts, rebel attacks, and decadence wars) absolutely terrifying if they happen to someone? I've dealt with three successor revolts and each of them have had around 10k troops when I can muster 7k at most in Mali. (with a ruler at 7/7 demease and 18 Martial) All of them were pretty much game-ending without having to assassinate the successor in question.

    Decadence wars seem even worse. I saw the Abbasids, who held the Arabian Empire and Spain, get completely floored by a 180k doomstack of rebels due to the Abbasid ruler's 100% decadence. I was completely terrified when I saw how bad it got.

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    Yeah they forgot to change the number of event troops with the levy change. So now you can get rebellions in single counties that field more men than entire empires.
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    So I seem to have stumbled upon something very interesting. It appears that a child's education trait is determined by who is tutoring them when they come of age, not who is tutoring them for the other 9.99 years. So you can have somebody with good traits tutor them until the day before their 16th birthday, then switch tutors to a Midas Touched or whatever and get the good education on them.

    Granted, 2 occurances is not the largest sample size, but twice now children have had their guardians die within a month of coming of age and they both wound up with education corresponding to the new guardian, not the old one.
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    Bossing Around Mad Cats for Fun and Profit: Let's Play MechCommander 2!

    Kicking this LP into overdrive: Let's Play StarCraft 2!

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