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2014-05-04, 09:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-05-05, 12:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Actually, that's an interesting question - we know that his ability lets him consume a skill book to learn the ability described in it...but does it actually give him the knowledge, or just the skill? If there's a chapter or something that doesn't pertain to the skill, does he know about it? He might actually have to read the book on magic like a normal person.
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2014-05-08, 11:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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New raws up.
SpoilerHe learns the Earth Elemental summoning spell, but when he looks at the other book..... lol I can't even describe it. My buddy that speaks some Korean isn't around to ask for info.
The loli/wolf duo are standing over a pile of corpses talking a little bit.
Jee-Han talks to Sun-Il about the stuff he bought.
Not too much happening overall, bit of a breather chapter.
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2014-05-08, 01:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Gamer
Speed translation.
SpoilerAlthough mostly you can tell what's going on in this chapter without it. Seems like he can only learn specific techniques from books, not abstract concepts, so the basic magic theory book doesn't work with his ability (although he thinks he might still gain something if he actually reads it.)
He seems to think his mom is using some trick now, just like we do, and isn't really level 15.
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2014-05-08, 01:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-05-08, 07:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: The Gamer
so, now we know he actually does learn the knowledge contained in the book, but he can only use the skill function if there is an actual skill or spell in the book. also, getting access to all the elementals from one book is so hax. not only does he get to skip the time it takes other people to learn the skills, but he also gets to save all that money. this is assuming he can figure out how to use the other elements on his own. he should see if there's a helpfile or tutorial in the menu telling him what all the elements are.
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2014-05-08, 11:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-05-09, 03:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-05-11, 04:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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That makes a lot of sense. I suspect she is off killing people who abuse their powers.thnx to Starwoof for the fine avatar
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2014-05-11, 04:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-05-11, 11:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-05-12, 02:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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We know there is a force that punishes those who risk revealing the masquerade. Whether or not it's personified, it's a thing that exists.thnx to Starwoof for the fine avatar
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2014-05-12, 10:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Until we actually see it happen, all we have is hearsay from Sun-Il as to what allegedly happens and what triggers it.
It is not unreasonable to think that there is a secret organization in the Abyss that polices the ability users and is actually what is killing users that reveal themselves, while spreading rumors that 'Gaia' is doing it. Or to think that the Mother is a member of said organization.
Heck, honestly the whole thing might be BS and Sun-Il was just trying to scare Jee-Han into keeping his ability quiet.
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2014-05-12, 11:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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From what I gathered from that whole segment, it wasn't revealing it, it was the profiting and creating something from nothing that was discouraged(why Sun-Il was also really amazed when the monsters dropped those potions and money, since he was creating something for nothing).
Also, seems to me that the example they used as 'good' use of power(a guy using his powers to make his roles taste better) is far more revealing(since it's easier to steal all his ingredients/recipe and realize it doesn't taste remotely the same) then if a guy wins a lottery once(people win lotteries, it happens why they're still around. If one guy is winning a hundred lotteries in a row, alright, there's a case to be made there, but story made it seem like if you use the power to win a lottery once, thou shalt be smote).
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2014-05-12, 01:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Until we actually see it happen, all we have is hearsay from Sun-Il as to what allegedly happens and what triggers it.
It is not unreasonable to think that there is a secret organization in the Abyss that polices the ability users and is actually what is killing users that reveal themselves, while spreading rumors that 'Gaia' is doing it. Or to think that the Mother is a member of said organization.
At the same time, with such a huge variation of powers found among ability users, then i find it extremely unlikely that a organisation would be able to get away with this undiscovered.
From what I gathered from that whole segment, it wasn't revealing it, it was the profiting and creating something from nothing that was discouraged(why Sun-Il was also really amazed when the monsters dropped those potions and money, since he was creating something for nothing).
Also, seems to me that the example they used as 'good' use of power(a guy using his powers to make his roles taste better) is far more revealing(since it's easier to steal all his ingredients/recipe and realize it doesn't taste remotely the same) then if a guy wins a lottery once(people win lotteries, it happens why they're still around. If one guy is winning a hundred lotteries in a row, alright, there's a case to be made there, but story made it seem like if you use the power to win a lottery once, thou shalt be smote).thnx to Starwoof for the fine avatar
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2014-05-12, 02:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-05-12, 02:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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You don't know much about cooking, do you? Especially in the world of gourmet food, following the recipe isn't enough, and can result in large variances in flavors with just slight differences in the cooking process. Especially if the recipe contains such ambiguous steps as, 'season lightly'. One person's opinion of what 'season lightly' is may differ wildly from what another person's is.
You also have no way of acquiring the exact ingredients that the chef used. Differences in meat quality, bread, cheeses, spice consistency, or other ingredients can cause a large difference in taste. Some chefs will get, grind and mix their own spices - you have no way of reproducing those ingredients. Other restaurants have deals with specific providers to provide an exact quality of ingredient - without knowing that or getting them from the same source, no way to do that either.
Slight variations in the equipment (oven, stove, mixer, blender, etc) used can also change the flavor of a dish. On the extreme end you have the difference between a gas and electric stove/oven (yes you can taste the difference). On the less extreme, but still noticeable end, you have an over or stove that is a few degrees off. That can throw off the whole dish.
If somebody stole a recipe from a 5 star restaurant I'd quite frankly be SHOCKED if they could reproduce the exact dish. Even another 5-star chef couldn't necessarily reproduce the exact results. Sure it would probably taste good, but it wouldn't be the same.
On the other note - we also have absolutely zero evidence of 'Gaia' taking any direct hand at all in matters, other than Sun-Il's single statement.
Given Jee-Han's ability, it is completely possible (likely even), that as he receives 'quests' which appear to be generated by Gaia, other Shinin ability users receive 'missions', 'requests', whatever, from their abilities, to further whatever ends.
So rather than a bolt of lightning striking from the heaves, we have Jee-Han get a quest to 'eliminate Evil Ability User XXXDUDE who threatens to reveal the Abyss to humans'.
There has to be some kind of council/ruling body controlling the Abyss, even if it is nothing more than all of the factions agreeing to stay out of each other's business, or getting together to discuss renegades, there has to be some kind of official structure.
Otherwise, in the world of might makes right, why isn't the baddest, strongest guy in the Abyss dictator for life and lording it over everybody else?
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2014-05-12, 05:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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You don't know much about cooking, do you? Especially in the world of gourmet food, following the recipe isn't enough, and can result in large variances in flavors with just slight differences in the cooking process. Especially if the recipe contains such ambiguous steps as, 'season lightly'. One person's opinion of what 'season lightly' is may differ wildly from what another person's is.
You also have no way of acquiring the exact ingredients that the chef used. Differences in meat quality, bread, cheeses, spice consistency, or other ingredients can cause a large difference in taste. Some chefs will get, grind and mix their own spices - you have no way of reproducing those ingredients. Other restaurants have deals with specific providers to provide an exact quality of ingredient - without knowing that or getting them from the same source, no way to do that either.
Slight variations in the equipment (oven, stove, mixer, blender, etc) used can also change the flavor of a dish. On the extreme end you have the difference between a gas and electric stove/oven (yes you can taste the difference). On the less extreme, but still noticeable end, you have an over or stove that is a few degrees off. That can throw off the whole dish.
If somebody stole a recipe from a 5 star restaurant I'd quite frankly be SHOCKED if they could reproduce the exact dish. Even another 5-star chef couldn't necessarily reproduce the exact results. Sure it would probably taste good, but it wouldn't be the same.
To repeat the important part "are there then any of your friends who would be surprised if it did not become as good as what were normally served at the resturant?"
On the other note - we also have absolutely zero evidence of 'Gaia' taking any direct hand at all in matters, other than Sun-Il's single statement.
Given Jee-Han's ability, it is completely possible (likely even), that as he receives 'quests' which appear to be generated by Gaia, other Shinin ability users receive 'missions', 'requests', whatever, from their abilities, to further whatever ends.
So rather than a bolt of lightning striking from the heaves, we have Jee-Han get a quest to 'eliminate Evil Ability User XXXDUDE who threatens to reveal the Abyss to humans'.
Likely no, why hand tasks out like that, to someone less likely to complete them perfectly?
There has to be some kind of council/ruling body controlling the Abyss, even if it is nothing more than all of the factions agreeing to stay out of each other's business, or getting together to discuss renegades, there has to be some kind of official structure.
Otherwise, in the world of might makes right, why isn't the baddest, strongest guy in the Abyss dictator for life and lording it over everybody else?thnx to Starwoof for the fine avatar
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2014-05-12, 06:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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I think the issue is mostly that attracting attention is bad. The rule is that if your power affects the real world too much, you get in trouble.
If you make really tasty food, nobody is going to notice, but if you use your power to win the lottery, it'll have a relatively big impact on the real world. The seaweed roll guy was all right because "it didn't affect anyone too much".Last edited by Aquillion; 2014-05-12 at 06:06 PM.
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2014-05-16, 03:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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New chapter out and translated (by Mangacow, now.)
SpoilerReminds me of playing SMT and games like that... which is probably deliberate.Last edited by Aquillion; 2014-05-16 at 04:17 AM.
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2014-05-16, 09:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Okay, I should have posted my suspicion this Earth Elemental would turn out small\cute. Then I could have claimed to have called it. Meh.
In other news, so now he's gone from buying stuff from an orgnization with the not-at-all-suspicious name of The Abyss to binding his soul to an elemental he just met. Am I too paranoid, or is he nowhere near paranoid enough?Last edited by TheEmerged; 2014-05-16 at 09:38 AM.
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2014-05-16, 12:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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I wondered how everyone was ahead of me. I was reading this site (stuck at Ch 33) http://www.batoto.net/read/_/240875/...ch33_by_oneora
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2014-05-16, 02:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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yeah, that translating group broke up recently, which is why the name switched from bapscans to oneora. oneora is part of the original group that is still working on several projects, albeit at a much slower pace, since they have less manpower.
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2014-05-16, 07:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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The more I hear, the stronger my suspicion that his mother is the Existence Eater grows.
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2014-05-17, 05:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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The more I hear, the stronger my suspicion that his mother is the Existence Eater grows.thnx to Starwoof for the fine avatar
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2014-05-17, 09:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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You seem to be treating your assumptions as fact.
We know literally nothing about existence eater's age, gender, appearance, or personality for sure. All we know is that they are an extremely powerful individual, and live in the area.
And only the fact that there IS an Existence Eater is widely known. It's pretty likely that they can change their appearance with magic, or simply wear some kind of disguise while acting as the EE (given the melodramatic name, I fully expect Jee-Han to first encounter the EE in full-on Shinigami garb with a mask).
The 'LOL ACTUALLY A WOMAN' (or a kid) reveal is pretty standard these days, especially when somebody is built up to be powerful over a long period of time without actually showing them.
Given that we've already confirmed that Black Summoner is not the Existence Eater (and presumably the Auction House leader was not, as Sun-Il probably would have thought to mention oh by the way that dude is X), literally the ONLY local ??? character we have seen that is not a member of the 2 clans is the mother.Last edited by Olinser; 2014-05-17 at 09:10 AM.
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2014-05-17, 09:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Do we know anything about the father?
Useless arcane powers are better than no arcane powers!
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2014-05-17, 11:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-05-17, 12:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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He might be the Existence Eater, too. If you want to go full nuts, mom is a construct or servant and the protagonist is adopted / created / reincarnated / amnesiac.
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2014-05-17, 12:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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