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    I think Jee-Han's power just assigns them a rating based on those overall capabilities, which is generally accurate. It may miss some important subtleties, especially since not everything revolves around obvious RPG-style combat (eg. the super-smart girl's level probably accounts for capabilities that aren't so directly valuable in a fight), but I think the Black Summoner's level is probably roughly accurate and includes his potential summons -- after all, if it isn't based on that, what is it based on? That's what he does.
    This does make sense, i guess the biggest problem now is if the level growth is liniar or exponential?

    Else.. i also came up with a theory for why there are ability users in the first place.
    Because we are told Gaia first empowers them with superhuman skills, and then forces them to remain hidden on pain of death.
    And if we then begins to considder what purpose they might hold in the world.. then the one that springs into my mind is "immune system"
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    i think level growth is less than linear. the legion zombie was level 30 something, but level 18 jee-han is easily soloing it. part of that is because it has a predictable attack pattern, but just the fact that he can even do significant damage to it, despite being around half its level, shows, to me, that stats grow much slower than level. unless undead are like in D&D, and have no con score to boost their HP, which is a possibility.
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    Interesting. What appears to be a witch and probably a... Berserker? Werewolf? make a contract with Black Summoner.

    Jee-Han is fighting a ghost dude in the Chunbumoon training area that is level 26. Beats him pretty easily.


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    Well then, forums are back up and we have new raws out for the week.

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    RETURN OF TEAL HAIR VIOLENCE BALL!!!!
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    Man mana manipulation is damn versatile. He can just make a controllable rope on the fly. He should just attach several off them to his back and fight like Doctor Octopus.
    He should try lifting himself up with mana.

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    I would try to create some sort of whirling doom field. Get closed and get sliced to pieces. Also I would try and combine skills like he did with the spinning and the arrows. For example, combine spinning arrow and fool's dance. Confusing AND Death.
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    I would try to create some sort of whirling doom field. Get closed and get sliced to pieces. Also I would try and combine skills like he did with the spinning and the arrows. For example, combine spinning arrow and fool's dance. Confusing AND Death.
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    or the rope and the arrow. It would be like a grappling hook but made entirely of mana

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    I would try to create some sort of whirling doom field. Get closed and get sliced to pieces. Also I would try and combine skills like he did with the spinning and the arrows. For example, combine spinning arrow and fool's dance. Confusing AND Death.
    I get the feeling any strong enemy would just batter through the 'doom field', and more easily than they'd batter through the mana shield at that. No, the best defense for a non-tank is to not get caught unawares and not get hit. Mobility and CC are critical to the latter. The former is a matter of passive detection, which may or may not be tied to Observe.

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    Really he should be layering defense upon defense. Physical Endurance+Mana Shield+Enchanted Clothing+Whirling Death Field+Life Drain Aura. It doesn't take that long to get non-trivial level in a skill. Physical Endurance is particularly useful due to its passive nature. And he should probably try for similar skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamech View Post
    Really he should be layering defense upon defense. Physical Endurance+Mana Shield+Enchanted Clothing+Whirling Death Field+Life Drain Aura. It doesn't take that long to get non-trivial level in a skill. Physical Endurance is particularly useful due to its passive nature. And he should probably try for similar skills.
    Ya, I could see there being a similar skill for Aura resistance or something that he'd get if someone(or maybe even himself) would attack him with an aura energy skill. Seems like that would be incredibly useful.

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    Is it possible to stack time-stretching dungeons inside of one another to train even faster? I wonder....
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    Sae-Young has had a major power increase since her last appearance, she is now level 39.

    She seems to be flirting with him. Clearly she intends to use his superior genetic code to breed an army of super-babies.

    She takes him to the training area and he practices his new CC on one of those Ogres, using the mana rope to bind him up and cause him to fall down.. It doesn't last very long, the Ogre breaks it pretty easily, but it does put him on the ground for a few seconds at least. It ought to be pretty easy to level, bind them, they break it, bind them again, Jee-Han probably wouldn't even need to move while he empties his entire mana bar on one enemy.

    When he kills the ogre a huge mallet is left over. Sae-Young picks it up and it appears as though she's challenging Jee-Han to a fight. This could get interesting.
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    I think he got a real CC spell on his second try with the rope. Also he killed the Ogre in one volley anyway. He can probably clear this area pretty easy, and bootstrap himself to a much higher level. Also this seems to be a bigger training area than before, with swarms of ogres.
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    It looks like people who aren't important level up a lot more quickly because they can spend all their time training. Also, Jee-han is about to score big, which makes me wonder if he's going to head over to the Auction and try to buy things. After all, what kind of gamer goes this long without hitting the shops for new gear?
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    It looks like people who aren't important level up a lot more quickly because they can spend all their time training. Also, Jee-han is about to score big, which makes me wonder if he's going to head over to the Auction and try to buy things. After all, what kind of gamer goes this long without hitting the shops for new gear?
    More like, "People preparing for a major conflict level up faster".

    Something is definitely brewing with the Chunbumoon. I'm guessing Sae-Young and Sun-Il's rapid leveling is due to them training for an upcoming fight, rather than just in general.

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    so jee-han just made nearly $1,000, assuming chunbumoon pays full price for the hammer. not bad for 30 seconds worth of work. he really should check out the auction, though, and see if they have any Int based weapons. as much as he may want to avoid it, he needs some way to defend himself from within melee range. also, what level does anyone thing the legion ogre, if one spawns, is going to be?
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    so jee-han just made nearly $1,000, assuming chunbumoon pays full price for the hammer. not bad for 30 seconds worth of work. he really should check out the auction, though, and see if they have any Int based weapons. as much as he may want to avoid it, he needs some way to defend himself from within melee range. also, what level does anyone thing the legion ogre, if one spawns, is going to be?
    There isn't going to be a 'legion ogre', that was something unique to zombies.

    A boss ogre is probably going to be something like 'Enraged Ogre' (last ogre standing becomes enraged, takes less damage, does more damage, gets faster, and is immune to CC) or 'Ogre Boss/Lord'.

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    Looks like Jee-Han got paid by Chubumoon for the mallet. He suddenly decides to withdraw 1 million Won ($1,000) and just pulls a wad of cash out of thin air.

    He deposits it in a bank, then notices Black Summoner's daughter in an alley. She wants to pet a kitten, but it looks like the Freezing effect is back. Jee-Han pulls a soulstone out and heals it so she can pet the kitten. No, I am not joking.

    Then 2 shadowy dudes show up. Looks like they either are hunting Jee-Han or the daughter, not really clear which.

    If they do start fighting, this will mark Jee-Han's first official fight against a denizen of the Abyss, not just a monster spawned from an illusion barrier.
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    translations up.

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    so, her curse can harm those she touches, as well. if she could somehow boost her vitality enough to survive the curse at full force, she could weaponize that.
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    There's a speed-translator working on it too. Obviously their translations are not as good, but they are fast; they've already translated the next chapter.

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    Holy **** her description of what will happen to her is dark. I guess having a demon's invasion and a demonic attribute gives you a somewhat nasty view of the world.

    My theory: She's capable of taking these two guys, but doesn't want to use her powers in front of him, either because they're horrifying or because they'd endanger him. Perhaps she also thinks that he doesn't have what it takes to kill people, which would make him a liability in a fight despite his powers... especially if her own powers are only useful for killing.
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    Holy **** her description of what will happen to her is dark. I guess having a demon's invasion and a demonic attribute gives you a somewhat nasty view of the world.

    My theory: She's capable of taking these two guys, but doesn't want to use her powers in front of him, either because they're horrifying or because they'd endanger him. Perhaps she also thinks that he doesn't have what it takes to kill people, which would make him a liability in a fight despite his powers... especially if her own powers are only useful for killing.
    I kind of doubt that.

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    Remember, she is only low teens in level. The guy in armor blocked multiple level 12 Spinning Mana Arrows from a low-20's level Jee-Han without even being injured. I seriously doubt she can do anything meaningful in a fight other than scream for Daddy (which, given that he can apparently teleport, might actually be very effective).

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    I kind of doubt that.

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    Remember, she is only low teens in level. The guy in armor blocked multiple level 12 Spinning Mana Arrows from a low-20's level Jee-Han without even being injured. I seriously doubt she can do anything meaningful in a fight other than scream for Daddy (which, given that he can apparently teleport, might actually be very effective).
    I'm assuming Aquillion is talking about some sort of godmode related to the Black Demon. But I don't buy it either.

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    I'm assuming Aquillion is talking about some sort of godmode related to the Black Demon. But I don't buy it either.
    Right now I'm operating under the assumption that the Black Demon Invasion sickness is acting like a killspawn debuff. As in, if somebody dies with it on them, they spawn a demon. But they're still dead.

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    Also, I read the translation you're speaking of. She doesn't even come close to implying that she can beat them herself. She simply doesn't care if they catch her or not.

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    Right now I'm operating under the assumption that the Black Demon Invasion sickness is acting like a killspawn debuff. As in, if somebody dies with it on them, they spawn a demon. But they're still dead.
    with all the different types of abilities out there, do you think anyone has a raise dead ability? because all they have to do is write down some instructions, and jee han can learn it. and he has around $20,000 by now to buy a copy of a book that a normal person may not even be able to learn the ability from, depending on how vaguely it's written.

    which reminds me. he seriously needs to figure out what level of detail is required for a book to become a skill book. is merely describing the technique enough, or does the book actually have to be step by step instructions on how to use the technique, or would something between the two extremes work?
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