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Thread: "Because my life sucks"
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2007-02-12, 02:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Because my life sucks"
What are you talking about? He does take responsibility for himself. You just quoted him taking complete responsibility for how his life is going. I think, in fact, that that's one of his redeeming features: His life is messed up, yes, but he doesn't blame anyone else for it. He's brutally honest, both with himself and others--we've seen that same thing in his way of talking with Stanley and Wanda. He's intelligent and, when he talks to people, actually a decent conversationalist. In other words, he has good attributes that weren't necessarily obvious at first glance.
I think, also, that having a protagonist who hated his own life in this world will be necessary for the sort of story that the authors are telling. Someone who liked their life on earth and wanted to get back to it would be a completely different story, basically, from someone who embraces their new role and likes it there.
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2007-02-12, 03:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Because my life sucks"
He's not taking responsibility for himself. He's whining. "My life sucks." That's a whine. He then lists all the things that suck in his life and then can't be bothered to change them. That's not responsibility, that's whining.
He's not willing to step up and change his life, even for a "vague" improvement. No, he can't be bothered. Responsiblity involves recognizing and acting, IMNSHO. Sure, he may have recognized that his life sucks, but has he acted? If I get into a car accident, I can recognize that I struck another car, but if I flee the scene, am I being responsible? NOOOOO. A responsible person acts - they stay and talk to the police.
If he didn't care about those things (car, job, home), he wouldn't be whining "my life sucks." He wouldn't have started the monologue with "my life sucks."
Plus he's bored. He can't be bothered to change. Responsibility requires that you do even those things you think are boring. I pay my bills (the responsible thing to do) even though I would rather not be bothered. Do I still do it? Yes.
That's what I read by that statement, not responsibility, but whining. You can't have responsibility without some sort of action. YMMV.
/BC
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2007-02-12, 04:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Because my life sucks"
I disagree.
If someone asked me "why aren't you out playing sports?" I would respond "because I suck at sports". That wouldn't be a whine, it would be a simple statement of fact. Furthermore, I don't care. I have no desire to be better in sports because they are not important to me.
Parson saying "my life sucks" is a fact, and observation, a piece of information which is needed to properly explain why he spends so much time on his games.
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2007-02-12, 04:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Because my life sucks"
Are you trying to say that because Parson is not a motivated, financially successful go-getter, he does not deserve to be a protagonist? It seems like that, and not anything to do with cliches, is what's churned up this Righteous Indignation.
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2007-02-12, 04:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Because my life sucks"
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2007-02-12, 04:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Because my life sucks"
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You can't kill the metal, metal will live on! \m/
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2007-02-12, 05:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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2007-02-12, 06:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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2007-02-12, 08:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Because my life sucks"
Rob Balder, Erfworld author/co-creator, and creator of PartiallyClips
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2007-02-12, 08:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Because my life sucks"
Last edited by ElfLad; 2007-02-12 at 08:33 PM.
a secret to everybody.
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2007-02-15, 11:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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2007-02-15, 04:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Because my life sucks"
Last edited by BabbageCliolog; 2007-02-15 at 04:21 PM. Reason: witty clarification
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2007-02-15, 09:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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2007-02-15, 10:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Because my life sucks"
Yeah, I still don't see it as whining. I've got kids. I know what whining is.
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2007-02-15, 10:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Because my life sucks"
Right now, I'd categorize BabbageCliolog as whining. Parson? He was asked a question, and he answered it and moved on to his own priorities.
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2007-02-16, 02:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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2007-02-16, 02:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Because my life sucks"
No, Parson waxed eloquent about how his life sucks. He did a soliloquy.
And how, exactly, am I whining? Which of the following?
whin·ing, noun
–verb (used without object)
1. to utter a low, usually nasal, complaining cry or sound, as from uneasiness, discontent, peevishness, etc.: The puppies were whining from hunger.
2. to snivel or complain in a peevish, self-pitying way: He is always whining about his problems.
–verb (used with object)
3. to utter with or as if with a whine: I whined my litany of complaints.
–noun
4. a whining utterance, sound, or tone.
5. a feeble, peevish complaint.
I'm not No. 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 or 5 . I have demonstrated neither peevishness (annoyance, irritation, bad mood, perverse or obstinate) nor self-pity.
Parson was at the very least No. 1 (discontent), 2 (complaint in a peevish, self-pitying way), and 3 (litany of complaints), by all definitions of the word Whine.
/BC
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2007-02-16, 02:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: "Because my life sucks"
So, Parson is lazy, self absorbed, rude, and obsessed with fruitless activities like webcomics and strategy games. That makes him an interesting character to me, because he has a lot of room to grow.
If I follow your suggestions, you seem to imply that the story would be better if a motivated, social, outgoing individual who gamed frequently was the lead. Just my opinion, but I think stories about people who are 'perfect' like that usually turn out rather flat. There's no room for character development if the character is fully developed.
I can understand you're upset by the stereotypical treatment of Parson Gotti, but I suspect that's going to be key to the story. Pason Gotti has to be the kind of person who would create a webcomic like Hamstard.com and I don't think a well balanced person would want to create something like that. (No offense to AZM and PClips! )Last edited by Tokiko Mima; 2007-02-16 at 02:09 PM.