One Piece III: Cups!

[chainer1216]

Oh god he's so hard boiled.

so very hard boiled! *wipes away tears*

[Tectonic Robot]

Dang, that's a surprisingly good reason for going around dressed as a baby all the time.

[Dasgovernator]

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The ending reminded me of the ending to Bon Clay vs. Sanji. It really makes me think that Senor Pink is going to be one of those enemies that becomes an ally later on.

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Though it does make me wonder why he never asked to use Manshelly to help his wife. I mean, that should work right? Maybe she'll do it now and that'll be his heel-face turn motivation.

[ryuplaneswalker]

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Though it does make me wonder why he never asked to use Manshelly to help his wife. I mean, that should work right? Maybe she'll do it now and that'll be his heel-face turn motivation.

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Hard to say what the timeline of all of this is, looking at the flashbacks, does anyone remember what chapter the flashback to when they took over Dressrosa is? he is not wearing the bonnet during the Corazon stuff. His wife could very well be dead already.

Because This backstory needed to be SADDER

oh and to add a layer, since it is not pre-Corazon related birdcage, his son could have very well died during that bit, which means he stays with Mingo not only because it is the only family he has left but because if Mingo's plans fall apart that means he sacrificed everything he had for Mingo.

No wonder he took 30 Punches to the face.

so very hard boiled! *wipes away tears*

He is the most hard boiled.

Edit : I think we can officially say that the Aseop of One Piece is no longer "Dreams and Friendship are the things that make life work living" and is more of "You can never judge someone by how they act or dress, because they could very well have a good reason for it"

[Kato]

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Though it does make me wonder why he never asked to use Manshelly to help his wife. I mean, that should work right? Maybe she'll do it now and that'll be his heel-face turn motivation.

Shh, keep your reason out of our awesome manga

Edit : I think we can officially say that the Aseop of One Piece is no longer "Dreams and Friendship are the things that make life work living" and is more of "You can never judge someone by how they act or dress, because they could very well have a good reason for it"

I think OP has way more than one aesop.


I think we need to rewrite the unofficial manliness scale and put Pink higher than he was before... I mean, yeah, the cast of TTGL blew up galaxies but he wears a bonnett just to make his loved one smile. I can't believe I'm wishing I was as manly as the guy wearing a bonnett...

[lord_khaine]

I think we need to rewrite the unofficial manliness scale and put Pink higher than he was before... I mean, yeah, the cast of TTGL blew up galaxies but he wears a bonnett just to make his loved one smile. I can't believe I'm wishing I was as manly as the guy wearing a bonnett...

Honestly though.. blowing stuff up pales against making the love of your life smile for even a second on the grand scale of manliness.

Do think we have a lot of other extremely manly moments in OP though.. Pele flying off with the huge bomb being one of my favorites.

[Soras Teva Gee]

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Though it does make me wonder why he never asked to use Manshelly to help his wife. I mean, that should work right? Maybe she'll do it now and that'll be his heel-face turn motivation.

Simple Answer: There is no Devil Fruit that can heal a broken heart.

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Hard to say what the timeline of all of this is, looking at the flashbacks, does anyone remember what chapter the flashback to when they took over Dressrosa is? he is not wearing the bonnet during the Corazon stuff. His wife could very well be dead already.

Because This backstory needed to be SADDER

oh and to add a layer, since it is not pre-Corazon related birdcage, his son could have very well died during that bit, which means he stays with Mingo not only because it is the only family he has left but because if Mingo's plans fall apart that means he sacrificed everything he had for Mingo.

No wonder he took 30 Punches to the face.

Bonnet was on in invasion of Dressrosa but off with Corazon's death... so while there's some time between those events it IS fairly suggestive.

And if so... omgidkwtf

[ryuplaneswalker]

Bonnet was on in invasion of Dressrosa but off with Corazon's death... so while there's some time between those events it IS fairly suggestive.

And if so... omgidkwtf

How old were Baby 5 and uhh Buffalo when Dressrosa was taken over? I forget..

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So

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Baby Five is older in the Dressrosa takeover than she was in the Corazon flashback, which means Pink's backstory happened during/between Corazon's flashback and Dressrosa, which means they did not have the princess with the heal heal fruit, and probably his wife died before they found the princess.

Which means he finds a way to cure his wife AFTER she probably died. There are so many layers to how HORRIBLE this is it is not even funny!

Edit : No she has to be dead..else the "The Sky sadder today than I would like..but if I could keep going I could see Her..my Lucy Anne...and my Son Gimlet too" would make no sense.

[LaZodiac]

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...wait if they killed Corazon that means Doflamingo lied when he said "they had already taken Dressrosa over" when taunting him about his failure.

Doflamingo is such a massive **** bag.

[ryuplaneswalker]

So more thinking, the rabbit hole goes deeper.

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Gimmlet had a bad fever...she took him to a hospital and he died.

what if he didn't die from a fever, what if he was kidnapped as a test subject for the first generation of a mad scientists pill to create giants.

[slayerx]

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(btw, trying to come up with someone who is denser than Leo. Naruto in regard to Hinata?)

Nah, Leo's denser. First the princess is more obvious about her feelings than Hintata. Second, not only is Leo obvlivious to her feelings but he actually misinterprets her flirting in the most negative way

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...wait if they killed Corazon that means Doflamingo lied when he said "they had already taken Dressrosa over" when taunting him about his failure.

Doflamingo is such a massive **** bag.

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Doflamingo didn't say they already took over dressrosa. He said that whatever information corazon had to prevent the take over would not have actually worked. Corazon's info was meant to save Dressrosa but it most likely would have only been a speed bump for Doflamingo. With or without that info Dressrosa was doomed.

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Baby Five is older in the Dressrosa takeover than she was in the Corazon flashback, which means Pink's backstory happened during/between Corazon's flashback and Dressrosa, which means they did not have the princess with the heal heal fruit, and probably his wife died before they found the princess.

Which means he finds a way to cure his wife AFTER she probably died. There are so many layers to how HORRIBLE this is it is not even funny!

Edit : No she has to be dead..else the "The Sky sadder today than I would like..but if I could keep going I could see Her..my Lucy Anne...and my Son Gimlet too" would make no sense.

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Another thing that could have possibly saved her was the Ope Ope No mi. The fruit does allow a doctor to work miracles. Heck if the ope ope no mi couldn't fix her brain then maybe its possible that it could have instead switched her mind into another body. Granted we again, don't know when he met Lucy Anne... he could have met her and/or lost her after the incident with Corazon and Law.

[Suichimo]

Nah, Leo's denser. First the princess is more obvious about her feelings than Hintata. Second, not only is Leo obvlivious to her feelings but he actually misinterprets her flirting in the most negative way

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And considering Naruto DOES end up with Hinata...

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New anime episode, Doflamingo is about to go Enel on this island and I'm more than a bit concerned about the general populace of the island, keeping casualties to a minimum is going to be difficult with all of these Parasite Strings causing unnecessary damage from the people controlling them (also question: were the strings in the manga depicted as severed or is that just an anime screw-up?) and a part of me worries what would happen if Doffy decided to just pull in that Birdcage like a lethal version of this.

Having him have a duplicate copy of himself made of strings was also a neat surprise and upped his threat level considerably in my mind compared to what it seemed before. (though not as much as it would have if it had turned out he was some kind of faux-Logia where his head was still "hanging on by a thread", similar to psychomom from Kill La Kill)

_{Actually that would be a really cool showdown in my opinion, Doffy vs Ragyo, who would win?}

[Soras Teva Gee]

Wow are they really that close or has this arc just been going on that long?

And yeah Doffy's went all Ragyo there, they'd make about the best crossover couple ever. I wonder if Oda is a fan?

[Dasgovernator]

Wow are they really that close or has this arc just been going on that long?

Both. They're basically on chapter 745 (versus 775 in the manga), which is closer than they've ever been I think. The anime doesn't really take breaks after all, and running a 1:1 Episode to Chapter ratio is already stretching the source material as is. We can expect a bigger (8-10 episode) filler arc after they get off Dressrosa. Maybe they'll finally get back around to making episodes out of the cover stories.

Though Dressrosa is the longest arc in the story so far, and we're still probably 10 chapters from being done and done, since we still have all of the big players left to take care of.

[ryuplaneswalker]

And if you really want to think about it, Punk Hazard is tied into this like Water 7 was tied into Enies Lobby, this is an incredibly long storyline build.

[ben-zayb]

Wow are they really that close or has this arc just been going on that long?

And yeah Doffy's went all Ragyo there, they'd make about the best crossover couple ever. I wonder if Oda is a fan?

I believe that was already answered before:

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Yeah, I was half-joking... but the similarity between both powers is quite glaring, isn't it? I mean, it mostly IS the same.


Wow, has it really been so long? I mean, how long was the Alabasta/Baroque arc? I feel it would be on a similar scale, even if there were less Strawhats back then.

This arc is actually the longest one now at 71 chapters, surpassing Skypiea's 65 and Alabasta's 62 (excluding Whiskey Peak stuff)

[Suichimo]

Having him have a duplicate copy of himself made of strings was also a neat surprise and upped his threat level considerably in my mind compared to what it seemed before. (though not as much as it would have if it had turned out he was some kind of faux-Logia where his head was still "hanging on by a thread", similar to psychomom from Kill La Kill)

Actually, I don't see why he couldn't do a faux Logia thing. Buggy is a Paramecia as well and can pull it off.

I believe that was already answered before:

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Sadly, we're only just getting to the first exciting fight of the time skip, imo. There just hasn't been a legitimate challenge to the Strawhats yet. Hody and the New Fishman Pirates were crap, Caesar and his group was a joke, and the only one who was really a threat for Luffy in the Coliseum was probably Burgess who didn't even get to fight him.

[ben-zayb]

IMO Caesar's threat level is hard to gauge, in that given the right opponent (i.e. Any nonhaki user), he can and likely will win. His power isn't something that can be measured by raw strength/power/whathaveyou, sorta like Sugar's and Perona's.

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Yeah but the thing about Buggy is that that's his fruit's entire schtick, Doffy's seems to be relegated to the creations he generates with his strings as opposed to any inherent stringyness his body itself has.

[Sigh]

What's up with the manga? Is Oda in the hospital again?

[LaZodiac]

What's up with the manga? Is Oda in the hospital again?

New chapter isn't out until tomorrow, and last week was a break for One Piece.

[chainer1216]

new chapter is out, its meh.

on a side note, i really dislike kyros anymore, he's a powerful warrior, his daughter is also a skilled warrior but no, SHE IS A DELICATE FLOWER AND IT WOULD BE TERRIBLE IF SHE DEFENDED HERSELF OR HER LOVED ONES.

[ryuplaneswalker]

new chapter is out, its meh.

on a side note, i really dislike kyros anymore, he's a powerful warrior, his daughter is also a skilled warrior but no, SHE IS A DELICATE FLOWER AND IT WOULD BE TERRIBLE IF SHE DEFENDED HERSELF OR HER LOVED ONES.

You mean, if she harmed someone which was something her dead mother expressly wished she never do.

[chainer1216]

You mean, if she harmed someone which was something her dead mother expressly wished she never do.

yes, exactly that, it is an extremely selfish and stupid wish, especially in a world plagued with pirates and a deeply corrupted military government, ESPECIALLY when you live in the most dangerous section of the world, where people with superpowers are a dime a dozen.

[Soras Teva Gee]

Sigh this again... you really wanna go there?

Alright look One Piece is many things but its not say Fairy Tail or Attack on Titan or Magi... or Nanoha or Pretty Cure or Madoka or Ghibli. Its a boy's own adventure tale, there's an SBS I can track down where Oda is happy a lot of readers are female, but he's not going to change how he's writing because of it. So don't expect women to handle much of the action at any point because the story is well... a man's romance.

Its deliberately rather old school and rather immature.

And yes that includes getting these classic princess types like Rebecca. Who exist to be saved and protected while moving the world through their earnest hearts and gentle kindness. This isn't inconsistent with her character, its been there right from the beginning. She's also say not someone who's presented as totally competent then somehow fails to follow through (like a certain other recently concluded manga I could name) when it counts, she's been out of her league since the Coliseum and everyone should have known that technical pacifism when not named Vash only gets you so far.

Now when Boa Hancock or Big Mom starts being incompetent in a fight that will be another story.

And with all things Japan... its Japan. Its a culture we might sample but we are not a part of, we do not set the rules, the expectations, and nothing we do or say is going to amount to squat because we are an unimportant fringe. Heck what western otaku sample isn't even nessecarily all that representative of Japan at a whole, we indulge in a fairly limited sample size. You either accept that yes they have from our perspective some outdated social mores (though we're that much better?) or you quit the entire affair. All bringing it up is going to cause is ruining franchises with expectations that will never be met.

I might also note that while Japan divides gender differently I might be tempted to say I can probably come up more genuinely awesome heroines then I can in say American media. Many just so happen to star in their own media. I'm not gonna claim "separate but equal" nessecarily but hell I don't have trouble naming female protagionists or other interesting characters. While here across the Pacific well... heck my favorite girl's entertainment from America was founded basically on "hey can girl's cartoons stop sucking please?" by its creator.

[Sigh]

Sigh this again... you really wanna go there?

Hey hey hey, don't bring me into this! =P

[LaZodiac]

God I love One Piece.

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Diamante is such a monster, and it was satisfying to see him get cut down.

I think it would of been really cool if Rebecca and Kyros teamed up and brought Diamante down together, but I don't in any way disagree with the plot as it's been presented.

[Kato]

Geez, I had already forgotten about that "never hurt anyone" thing... And I can't say i like it, sorry. Whatever the justification behind it not happening, I would have wanted Rebecca to go out there and avenge her father who lost, because, you know, he's exhausted and missing a leg and pierced by a thousand spiked bullets.
I don't want to make a big deal out of it but... yeah, Rebecca being, what a technical pacifist even though she was a gladiator? I don't like it.

Anyway, we're getting close to the finish. Time is weird in OP but I wonder how long bellamy has been arkanoiding around the room by now.

[lord_khaine]

on a side note, i really dislike kyros anymore, he's a powerful warrior, his daughter is also a skilled warrior but no, SHE IS A DELICATE FLOWER AND IT WOULD BE TERRIBLE IF SHE DEFENDED HERSELF OR HER LOVED ONES.

This was actually also my first reaction upon reading this chapter.

It made me really angry.. on Kyros.
Because i do think he is being horribly selfish. Whereever she should pick up a sword and a new flag out of Diamantes rear, or stand back and cover, then it really should be her own choice.
And Kyros does seem to be a badass of a level almost in a class of his own. If he had been training Rebecca proberly she should have been a female version of Zorro, not someone who just barely made it though the coluseum matches though cabbage falling asleep, and who had to be saved by Ace in the finale.