The OotS Magic Compendium

[TheWombatOfDoom]

You still haven't made the corrections/additions that were submitted last June. Which is why I stopped looking for more of them.

But I just noticed Resurrection is mentioned in 571.

ETA:
955 Protection from Energy (electricity) (mention)
955 Polymorph (mention)

I honestly thought I'd gotten those. I'll get on that right now.

EDIT:

#8 Healing Potion
#135 Potion of Mage Armor, Potion of Heroism

What would I classify the healing potion under? We don't know the strength of it, other than it's "good stuff".

Otherwise, back filled those in.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

So transmogrifying....its a spell...but what spell exactly?

[Jaxzan Proditor]

Well, we can definitely add Dimension Door (mention).

[TheWombatOfDoom]

Well, we can definitely add Dimension Door (mention).

This is certainly true. Should I just list the other as Craft Wonderous Item?

[Jaxzan Proditor]

This is certainly true. Should I just list the other as Craft Wonderous Item?

We could put it in our unknown spells.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

We could put it in our unknown spells.

Oh yeah! I forgot I had that...its been a while. Now that I'm married, though, I don't have the wedding to pull my attentions, so I should be back for good. Trying to recall if we have it where teleport might also get a mention...I'm thinking no, but I'll leave that to you guys to consider before a final call.

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Strip 967
Dimension Door (mention), Unknown spell (transmogrify?)

[Jaxzan Proditor]

Oh yeah! I forgot I had that...its been a while. Now that I'm married, though, I don't have the wedding to pull my attentions, so I should be back for good. Trying to recall if we have it where teleport might also get a mention...I'm thinking no, but I'll leave that to you guys to consider before a final call.

Usually, if it's an actual spell it would be capitalized (Teleport). Since Vaarsuvius just says "teleport", they are probably referring to the action, not the spell.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

Usually, if it's an actual spell it would be capitalized (Teleport). Since Vaarsuvius just says "teleport", they are probably referring to the action, not the spell.

On the other hand, I believe when someone mentions someone was dominated, it is not capitalized (and generally leads into the joke about how they didn't know the character was into that".

[Jaxzan Proditor]

On the other hand, I believe when someone mentions someone was dominated, it is not capitalized (and generally leads into the joke about how they didn't know the character was into that".

Well, if you are referring to Thanh, Haley says he was "Dominated by Tsukiko" and then when referring to the none magical kind says "Not that kind of dominated."

[TheWombatOfDoom]

Well, if you are referring to Thanh, Haley says he was "Dominated by Tsukiko" and then when referring to the none magical kind says "Not that kind of dominated."

True. I was also thinking of another one that was an example...but let me look for it...(consults the transcription)...AH! "dominated soldiers". Said by Roy in page 2, panel 5.

[Rogar Demonblud]

That isn't a spell, though, but rather the vampire's Dominate special ability.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

That isn't a spell, though, but rather the vampire's Dominate special ability.

That brings up an older question then on where we should put spell like abilities. Their own category, in spells, or with class abilities as a new group. For instance, Qarr teleports a LOT as his spell like ability, but its listed currently as the spell, since its still a spell, even if he's inheriantly doing it. I never got any argument or discussion otherwise, so I've kept it like that.

[Lord Torath]

You have Tsukio's Amazing Wight-Making Spell listed as 516. I see a Flame Strike, and a Dominate, but no wight making in that strip.

[Jaxzan Proditor]

You have Tsukio's Amazing Wight-Making Spell listed as 516. I see a Flame Strike, and a Dominate, but no wight making in that strip.

It's technically mentioned in panel 7, although I'm not sure if it deserves an entry since no spell is ever actually mentioned.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

It's technically mentioned in panel 7, although I'm not sure if it deserves an entry since no spell is ever actually mentioned.

It's mentioned somewhere...hmmmm...I'll look for it.

Edit: Ah: here we go.

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...0#post11664910

Rich actually named it, though its not a direct mention in the comic, so maybe I should get rid of it. I scoured the Geekery thread for that one. If I do keep it, it should get a (mention) in any case. Anyone have an opinion?

[Lord Torath]

It's not mentioned, it's alluded to. Vaguely. I'd say leave it out.

[Jaxzan Proditor]

It's not mentioned, it's alluded to. Vaguely. I'd say leave it out.

I agree. If Tsukiko had actually said the spell or we had seen her create the Wight, it would work. However, without those things it's mostly just confusing to include.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

It's not mentioned, it's alluded to. Vaguely. I'd say leave it out.

I agree. If Tsukiko had actually said the spell or we had seen her create the Wight, it would work. However, without those things it's mostly just confusing to include.

Removed! Thanks both for the input.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

Strip 968
Turn Undead, Dominate Person

[Jaxzan Proditor]

Strip 968
Turn Undead, Dominate Person

I could be wrong, but I believe that the High Priest of Hel is using his Dominate (Su) special attack, not the spell Dominate Person.

[littlebum2002]

It's mentioned somewhere...hmmmm...I'll look for it.

Edit: Ah: here we go.

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...0#post11664910

Rich actually named it, though its not a direct mention in the comic, so maybe I should get rid of it. I scoured the Geekery thread for that one. If I do keep it, it should get a (mention) in any case. Anyone have an opinion?

I say leave it out. If we had seen her make a wight on screen, that would be different.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

Strip 969
Protection from Evil (clasp)

Strip 970
Unknown spell (fire?), Cure Moderate Wounds (mention), Endure Elements (mention)

Strip 973
Magic Missle (wand)

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Edit:

Strip 683
Endure Elements (mention)

I could be wrong, but I believe that the High Priest of Hel is using his Dominate (Su) special attack, not the spell Dominate Person.

Still haven't really figured out Su's yet. Should I add them to class features? Should I make an Su and Sa group? Should I just put all of it into the main thing and call it a day? Anyone have anything to say in regard to the High Priest's Dominations? Is it named when they are fighting Tarquin at the rift?

[Jaxzan Proditor]

Still haven't really figured out Su's yet. Should I add them to class features? Should I make an Su and Sa group? Should I just put all of it into the main thing and call it a day? Anyone have anything to say in regard to the High Priest's Dominations? Is it named when they are fighting Tarquin at the rift?

Perhaps we should take the "Class Features" section and just make it a general Ex/Su/Sp category? In other words, clearly non-ordinary abilites that aren't spells.

[littlebum2002]

Perhaps we should take the "Class Features" section and just make it a general Ex/Su/Sp category? In other words, clearly non-ordinary abilites that aren't spells.

I disagree, that's too confusing.

Why not just call it "Class/Race/Template features" and include all....class, race, and template features in it? That way it's obvious what the section contains, and if you want to clarify each feature inside, you can do like the SRD does.

Dominate (Su) - Vampire
968

[TheWombatOfDoom]

Perhaps we should take the "Class Features" section and just make it a general Ex/Su/Sp category? In other words, clearly non-ordinary abilites that aren't spells.

But some of them are just like spells, like teleport and plain shift. they generally even look and act like spells. For example, if someone looks for teleports, and we're missing all the teleports that Qarr does in the spell area, then they'll think they are missing until they realize there's a second teleport category in a seperate spoiler. But I also kind of like the idea, so I'll play devils advocate for the hard parts.

[Jaxzan Proditor]

I disagree, that's too confusing.

Why not just call it "Class/Race/Template features" and include all....class, race, and template features in it? That way it's obvious what the section contains, and if you want to clarify each feature inside, you can do like the SRD does.

Dominate (Su) - Vampire
968

I'm entirely sure what you're suggesting here. That we include every feature in one section?

[littlebum2002]

I'm entirely sure what you're suggesting here. That we include every feature in one section?

I don't see how it is confusing.

Right now, we have a section called "Class abilities" that lists all class abilities.

I am suggesting that we rename that section to be "Class, Racial, and template abilities" and use it to list all class, racial, and template abilities.

[Jaxzan Proditor]

I don't see how it is confusing.

Right now, we have a section called "Class abilities" that lists all class abilities.

I am suggesting that we rename that section to be "Class, Racial, and template abilities" and use it to list all class, racial, and template abilities.

Okay, I think I see what you are suggesting now. Yeah, that works fine.

[rodneyAnonymous]

But some of them are just like spells, like teleport and plain shift. they generally even look and act like spells. For example, if someone looks for teleports, and we're missing all the teleports that Qarr does in the spell area, then they'll think they are missing until they realize there's a second teleport category in a seperate spoiler.

I disagree; Qarr's teleports should be separate. I agree with the above suggestion that we have two categories: "spells" and "other".

[TheWombatOfDoom]

That settles it! We shall make the Class section expand to contain creature features, such as abilities, and various other things.

The only problem is, there are a LOT of spells in there that need to be transferred over...

...would anyone be crazy enough to assist by going through the spells and making a list of which ones need to be ported over? If not, I'll get started on it at some point, but I'm nearly done editing book 4 of the Transcription project, and I want to get that done.

Any takers?