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2014-08-20, 08:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Star Power III: Fail to the Void!
Yeah, this update, it has potential. There are a couple of directions it could take. Im sure mookie will pick the stupidest one he can find, but for right now, it could be cool.
1) Basically a meet and greet and possible recruitment for the security team. Heck, she has shown a pretty hefty willingness to risk her life to save others, she might as well get some training!
2) A smaller gathering of "outcasts" Slenderwoman is former vorp iirc, she may want to introduce danica to a few others that dont exactly fit in so the outcast crew can induct another member.
3) She wants to hear all the details about the trouncing the vorps got, and her and her two friends there are making dinner.
As a side note, im kinda surprised a bigger deal isnt being made out of danica officially. She broke the vorp angels stealth tec! Thats freaking HUGE! That would be like if america created a technology that made us immune to nuclear weapons. All of a sudden, a very dangerous weapon has been rendered useless against them and its all thanks to this one lab assistant. It isnt even connected to star power, its straightforward "science" that now they have the basic concept, can be further refined. Danica should be getting frigging awards over that!"Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
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2014-08-20, 08:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-08-20, 09:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Star Power III: Fail to the Void!
She was working with slenderwoman to track the vorp angel ships before she left the station to turn herself into a missile. Im sure they have recordings of that, and also fairly sure that it was included in the debriefing since, "Wait, how did you even know where to LOOK for the armada?" had to have come up at some point. As for they are all dead, im going to say its unlikely. Unless I forgot some comment made by the archangel about how they are bringing in every ship they have for an all or nothing assault, im sure they still exist out there. But even so, just having been able to break the tech means noone else will be able to use it against them again. After all, if the vorp angels could create it, that means someone else could always recreate it.
"Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
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2014-08-20, 11:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Star Power III: Fail to the Void!
A closer parallel would be this man, about whom a big deal hasn't been made either. Like Danica, he defeated a technologically superior enemy's stealth technology purely with science and cleverness.
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2014-08-20, 04:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Star Power III: Fail to the Void!
If I may add, repetitive manoeuvres on the enemy's side also helped, which doesn't deny that he was smarter.
Anyway, Grex has one hell of an office. I thought space stations were pretty small, so this is the sci-fi part, I suppose.
I like how nobody here needs a badge to give orders, just a smartphone with an animated GIF of Chief and a random background audio. It feels like a Chris Hastings thing, even though it likely was accidental.
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2014-08-20, 05:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Star Power III: Fail to the Void!
This actually hints at another issue with Star Power, which is that it kind of floats between Science Fiction and Future Fantasy (ie: Star Trek and Star Wars, respectively). In Science Fiction, the limited size of space stations, or alternatively whatever advancement has allowed them to grow large, is an important part of the piece and needs to be, if not explained, then at least understood by the writer and any implications fully realized. In Future Fantasy, on the other hand, space stations are as big as they need to be, so if Grex here needs a big flat to make the story flow, then the station is big enough to support that and explanations would only get in the way.
I think the problem here comes because Mookie is trying to shoehorn traditional Superheros (which is essentially Future Fantasy, even when it occurs in modern times or even recent history) into Sci-Fi, without realizing the inherent friction that creates between the two essentially incompatible storytelling methods. Science Fiction works because it builds off of what we know to explore things just beyond our current understanding of the universe. Future Fantasy works because it abandons what we know to either explore concepts that can't be explored normally (ie: the ramifications of time travel), or to grant a unique vantage point on concepts that are very relevant in our current world, but are hard to look at because of the baggage they've built up over the years (ie: examining racism when it isn't about groups of people that you may be a part of).
Trying to do both at the same time just takes away from both of them. Future Fantasy gets dragged down into the real world, hindering it's ability to tell stories about the un-real, and Science Fiction loses the grounding that lets it's stories seem real despite being about things that will likely never happen. It's probably possible to tell a good story that treads the line between these, but it would be a good story despite mixing the genres, not because of it. Mookie seems to have started Star Power because nobody's ever done the sci-fi/superheros mix, without realizing, or apparently even wondering, why nobody has done it. Even worse, he seems to still be completely oblivious to the conflict, and rather than committing to one side or the other, he flip-flops back and forth.5e Homebrew: Death Knight (Class), Kensai (Monk Subclass)Excellent avatar by Elder Tsofu.
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2014-08-20, 06:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Star Power III: Fail to the Void!
I dont think this is actually her "office" I get a strong employee rec room type of vibe off of this. Its the break room for the security staff, a place to grab a quick bite, relax on the sofa, and watch tv before you get back to work. *EDIT* As far as space is concerned, I actually have no trouble with this, because its a space station, Its a stationary structure that can be built in place, and could easily be modular enough to just keep adding on "rooms" until you no longer need the extra space.
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"Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
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2014-08-20, 07:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Star Power III: Fail to the Void!
This just highlights how stupid that plot development was. The Federation no doubt had hundreds of scientists working on that problem, and yet a lab assistant solves it all by herself in a few seconds just by thinking about it. Really? This ground my suspension of disbelief into a fine powder.
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2014-08-21, 04:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-08-21, 09:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Star Power III: Fail to the Void!
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2014-08-21, 07:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-08-21, 08:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-08-22, 02:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-08-22, 03:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Star Power III: Fail to the Void!
Gosh, you take that whole "sex idol alien race" thing a bit far, don't you? Danica isn't a lesbian, she is clearly and solely attracted to machines. (And maybe slightly to disembodied, ancient AIs) Leave your weird fanfiction out of it
So, Danica can actually get the chance to have... character development!? Really? Hurry, we better cut away to BHB escaping before this actually comes true!
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2014-08-22, 08:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-08-22, 09:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-08-22, 10:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Star Power III: Fail to the Void!
Considering "office" gets "parenthesis" around "it" im guessing this is not her private work area thats bigger than the stateroom on cruise ships. Im assuming some boring story about how she likes to be left alone and so tended to do all her paperwork and such in the break area, thus it got nicknamed "her office" Now, will danica have a breakdown over the friendliness? Or over her ptsd considering the massive heavy combat and life or death scenarios she has been in without any training at all? Or just cry over mitch? Im guessing mitch. Though in all seriousness, 2 should get attention considering that would make sense, involve character building, and be interesting to explore. She is a damn lab assistant. Her most dangerous moment up till recently was accidentally grabbing the tobasco sauce instead of the salt shaker once in the cafeteria. Now she has been blown up, chased by a bounty hunter, fought against an entire armada of ships, been taken prisoner, been nearly eviscerated from behind, captured, threatened by some genocidal lunatic, nearly been fried by some security system, and may have lost the source of her power boost. That could leave a mental mark on you, ya know? Dealing with all that could be interesting. But no, all that will be glossed over in favor of, "I miss my powers/Mitch!"
"Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
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2014-08-22, 11:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Star Power III: Fail to the Void!
Honestly, the thing that bugs me most about this update is how "huh" and "um" are put in lowercase letters. That's really bothering me. I think it's because it actually draws attention to them, rather than deemphasizing them. But really, it just looks weird.
Not saying the rest of the comic is good, but that's what really sticks in my craw here.In the Beginning Was the Word, and the Word Was Suck: A Guide to Truenamers
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2014-08-25, 03:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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So, Danica finally gets some inkling of her feeling for fleshy beings... It only took a whole book
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2014-08-25, 07:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Star Power III: Fail to the Void!
Wait, so now she actually cares about people? Well, it's clear these were people very close to her, so she's still not a social butterfly, but... it feels like in an attempt to develop her character, Mookie just repealed the only bit of characterization she had.
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2014-08-25, 09:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-08-25, 01:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Star Power III: Fail to the Void!
Exactly, its still inanimate objects she is attached to. Oh sure it implies that there are actual living creatures out there she either cared for or still does, but she is broken hearted over the loss of the objects. And yeah, it seems like a very blatant attempt to create a scenario where now mookie can go, "See, SEE?! Its not just the telescope, she liked these things because she liked people!"
"Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
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2014-08-25, 01:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Star Power III: Fail to the Void!
Yeah, but I think it was done reasonably naturally here. I have no real problems with this - it gives Grex some characterisation as well, as a minimalist person (and also kind of a bitch).
Edit: And to be fair, being connected to objects because of who they relate to isn't exactly unusual...hell, in my own life, I was surprised at how nostalgic I got when my belt broke. It was the first one I owned, I really liked it and it was maybe 10 years old (I haven't grown much in the waist since I was 15), and that wasn't even given to me by anyone special.Last edited by Cavelcade; 2014-08-25 at 01:54 PM.
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2014-08-25, 01:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Star Power III: Fail to the Void!
I would say less bitch and more thoughtless. At first it did sound like she was getting upset over a bunch of random junk like her clothes or whatever. Now, had grex taken a few seconds to think about it, she might have realized that they were likely mementos she was upset over, not random things, but, that was her knee jerk response. Not bitchiness, just thoughtlessness. Once it was clarified she realized she had a serious case of foot in mouth disease.
Another thing to keep in mind, is, if this is the same person i am thinking of, she is the former vorp angel right? In that case, its entirely possible that she doesnt have any attachments to random things, so it would make sense that it wouldnt be the first reaction to pop into her head upon hearing that she is crying over her room getting blown up. If you dont have precious mementos of your own, its not surprising that you wouldnt think of that yourself."Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
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2014-08-25, 05:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-08-25, 06:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-08-26, 11:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Star Power III: Fail to the Void!
It occurs to me that Black Hole Bill's flawless track record may be based entirely on redefining his constant failures. He's likely one of the worst assassins in the galaxy, but a reasonably good spin doctor. I hope this becomes cannon. :D
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2014-08-26, 12:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Star Power III: Fail to the Void!
"Wait wait wait, so how many people have you actually successfully killed?"
"Did that guy I shot in the head die?"
"No."
"Damn, then none.Wait, there was that guy I was hired to kill who had a heart attack while I was scoping him out. I can count that one as he DID die after I was hired.""Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum"
Translation: "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe."
"If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."
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2014-08-26, 11:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Star Power III: Fail to the Void!
Alternatively, he's actually just a sex worker whose ad the void angels grossly misinterpreted. Though never actually having worked as an assassin, he went along with it anyway because at the time of hiring he was wicked high on space-crack. This is based mostly on the fact that I find the name "Black Hole Bill" more suggestive than ominous.
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2014-08-27, 01:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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