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    Basically, I created a new class to produce tables close to the old style. But then I worked out that you can stack classes, so I created several more for you to make your tables just how you like them.

    The new classes are:
    head Will produce a table with a different header row colour, just like the old style. You need to use TH instead of TD for this colour, of course.
    alt1 Will produce the alternating light sand colour rows on the even numbered rows, just like the old style.
    alt2 Will produce alternating darker sand colour rows on the odd numbered rows, this is a new addition.
    outer_border Not actually a new class, but I did set it up to override the inside borders of these classes.
    NOTE: The alternating row colours will not work on IE8 or below.


    Examples (all examples follow the same format, with a TH row):

    Header only
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    Alternating row colours only
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    Header with both alternating row colours
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    Just created three more (and changed one):

    grid Changed to 1px border
    thick_grid New class with the 3px border
    thick_outer_border New class with 3px outer border and no inside borders
    thick_outer_border_grid New class with 3px outer border and 1px inside borders

    Examples:

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    Header with both alternating row colours and thick borders
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    Header with both alternating row colours and thick outer border with no inside borders
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    Header with both alternating row colours and thick outer border with thin inside borders
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianSt View Post
    So with all that (undocumented?) awesome table stuff, I pondered with the idea to make a Table Primer, with the intent to cover all things that are possible with the new table code.
    I was thinking of doing the same thing. Once again, procrastination has served me well. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawhide View Post
    Header with both alternating row colours and thick outer border with thin inside borders
    [table="width: 500, class: head alt1 alt2 thick_outer_border_grid"]

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    That's perfect for the homebrew forums, actually. I'll definitely be making use of this one for Class/PrC details.

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    Can we get a class(es) for the Avatar Adoption thread that removes padding, and possibly sets maximum [td] width+height to 120px?
    A way to remove padding would also help if anyone wants to use nested tables, e.g. to simulate vertical cell merging.

    Alternatively swap the row colors, since I'm now pretty sure that the old tables went light-dark-light-dark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prime32 View Post
    Alternatively swap the row colors, since I'm now pretty sure that the old tables went light-dark-light-dark.
    No, the old table rows went like this:

    Dark Header
    Light
    White
    Light
    White
    Light
    White
    Light
    White

    Though you are right that the coloured row was second (first after the header).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prime32 View Post
    Can we get a class(es) for the Avatar Adoption thread that [...] sets maximum [td] width+height to 120px?
    Not going to do this one, but you can do the width easily. Just set the width of the cells in the first row.

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    [td="width: 80"]2[/td]
    [td="width: 250"]3[/td]
    [td]4[/td]
    [td]5[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]11111 11111 11111 11111 11111 11111[/td]
    [td]22222 22222 22222 22222 22222 22222[/td]
    [td]33333 33333 33333 33333 33333 33333[/td]
    [td]44444 44444 44444 44444 44444 44444[/td]
    [td]55555 55555 55555 55555 55555 55555[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]111[/td]
    [td]222[/td]
    [td]333[/td]
    [td]444[/td]
    [td]555[/td]
    [/tr]
    [/table]


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    Quote Originally Posted by Prime32 View Post
    You could always try something on the client-side. Here's a "retro" Greasemonkey script I wrote earlier; comment out whatever parts you don't want.
    As I am inept at this, may I ask what "comment out" means? I want sortable tables but am fine with everything else as it is now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vedhin View Post
    As I am inept at this, may I ask what "comment out" means? I want sortable tables but am fine with everything else as it is now.
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    // at the start of a line makes it a comment, meaning it's not executed and doesn't do anything (the UserScript block still needs to be there despite consisting of comments, but it's just to identify the file to Greasemonkey). Add comment marks to every uncommented line in the section between the UserScript block and "Begin sorttable.js"
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    Yeah, uhm, no. I didn't notice that you had posted something containing javascript. It has been removed to prevent any confusion with endorsement, sorry. We will not be endorsing any such scripts due to the risk of developer abuse, or unintended bugs.

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    That's awesome Rawhide, thanks for updating that. The tables look better already!

    Is it possible to add this new information to the start of this thread (or another thread about the table code that maybe I've missed) so that it's convenient for future reference?

    Additionally (this might have been mentioned and I missed it, hence the above), is there any way to get the headers to left- (or indeed right-) align?
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    So, I hear that if you append "sortable" to the class list, something magical happens.

    [table="width: 500, class: head alt1 alt2 thick_outer_border_grid sortable"]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seerow View Post
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    Druid, actually.

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    Whatever floats your boat.


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    After hitting preview: Looks like having a table header in the middle of the table causes some interesting results. It still references the top row to sort by, regardless of if it's the header or not, but the header displays the arrows.


    222
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    111 123 543

    After preview: looks like Colspan works beautifully with it. It sorts by the first column that it affects rather than causing any funky results like switching cells around to put them in order. Perfect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawhide View Post
    Yeah, uhm, no. I didn't notice that you had posted something containing javascript. It has been removed to prevent any confusion with endorsement, sorry. We will not be endorsing any such scripts due to the risk of developer abuse, or unintended bugs.
    Is it okay to post Stylish content (i.e. CSS only), and/or post scripts on other parts of the site?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prime32 View Post
    Can we get a class(es) for the Avatar Adoption thread that removes padding, and possibly sets maximum [td] width+height to 120px?
    A way to remove padding would also help if anyone wants to use nested tables, e.g. to simulate vertical cell merging.

    Alternatively swap the row colors, since I'm now pretty sure that the old tables went light-dark-light-dark.
    I haven't fully tested this yet, but I believe if you insert a blank [tr][/tr] at the beginning of your table (but AFTER a table header, if present), it will alternate the rest of the rows light/dark instead of dark/light

    A couple of examples, using Rawhide's tables from above:

    Header with reverse alternating row colours
    [table="width: 500, class: head alt1"]

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    Header with reverse alternating row colours, no inside borders
    [table="width: 500, class: head alt1 outer_border"]

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    So... the only problem i see is that using alt1 and alt2 prevent you from altering the bgcolor of any specific rows or cells... any suggestions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirpercival View Post
    So... the only problem i see is that using alt1 and alt2 prevent you from altering the bgcolor of any specific rows or cells... any suggestions?
    Not sure that's a problem - the whole point is to set the bgcolor for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirpercival View Post
    So... the only problem i see is that using alt1 and alt2 prevent you from altering the bgcolor of any specific rows or cells... any suggestions?
    You could just color all rows/cells manually, giving you the ultimate flexibility to color everything however you wish.

    [Yes, using the way you want would be easier, but since I don't think that feature is that relevant, I personally wouldn't invest much time to try to fix it.]

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirpercival View Post
    So... the only problem i see is that using alt1 and alt2 prevent you from altering the bgcolor of any specific rows or cells... any suggestions?
    Strange, I can set cells just fine....

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    Maybe it's browser-specific? Using Firefox here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qwertystop View Post
    Not sure that's a problem - the whole point is to set the bgcolor for you.
    Unless you want for any reason to have the alt1/alt2 color scheme but keep the ability to have other cells or rows a different color, like for example I need in the Homebrew Martial Discipline Compendium...

    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianSt View Post
    You could just color all rows/cells manually, giving you the ultimate flexibility to color everything however you wish.

    [Yes, using the way you want would be easier, but since I don't think that feature is that relevant, I personally wouldn't invest much time to try to fix it.]
    I actually can't do that at all, because where I need this, I run into post character limits if I try.

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    Middle cell sure looks purple to me.


    Maybe it's browser-specific? Using Firefox here.
    No, yours works. Also, if I try it here, it works, but it doesn't work in the table I care about.

    Hm. I shall investigate further.

    EDIT: figured it out. i am teh derp. sorry!
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    If the mods were to make a sticky with all the table templates in the first post it might help damage control homebrewers who are currently staring at dozens of broken tables.

    Also, maybe entering 111111111's into all the entries might not intuitively illustrate which line is which.

    For a post's max character count, does this ignore the breaks needed to accomplish this new table code?
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    How would you make a table where there were no grid lines in the header (2 rows thick) but there were grid lines in the lower rows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gr8artist View Post
    How would you make a table where there were no grid lines in the header (2 rows thick) but there were grid lines in the lower rows?



    I want no black lines within the dark brown. How do?
    Testing:

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    Yep, looks like that works. It's a bit backwards, but what you have to do is make the table with just the outer border, then apply the grid class to the table rows where you want it.


    I wonder, is there some way to get the vertical lines, but not horizontal? With the striped colors, the horizontal lines aren't as necessary, but without vertical lines the tables end up looking kind of cluttered.
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    What's your resolution? Mine's 1200x800 and your tables still require a scroll bar.

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    For some reason the tables I am making don't get the head bar colored brown. Any idea what I've been doing wrong?

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    3 13 7 2nd
    4 19 9 2nd
    5 25 11 3rd
    6 33 13 3rd
    7 42 15 4th
    8 52 17 4th
    9 63 19 (4th)
    10 74 21 (4th)
    11 88 23 (4th)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yora View Post
    For some reason the tables I am making don't get the head bar colored brown. Any idea what I've been doing wrong?

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    7 42 15 4th
    8 52 17 4th
    9 63 19 (4th)
    10 74 21 (4th)
    11 88 23 (4th)
    12 102 25 (4th)
    You need to use [th] instead of [td] for header rows.

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    I see. Thanks.
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    3rd +1 +1 +1 +3 4 2 1
    4th +2 +1 +1 +4 4 3 2
    5th +2 +1 +1 +4 Bonus feat 4 3 2 1
    6th +3 +2 +2 +5 4 3 2 2
    7th +3 +2 +2 +5 4 4 3 2 1
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    9th +4 +3 +3 +6 4 4 4 3 2 1
    10th +5 +3 +3 +7 Bonus feat 4 4 3 3 2
    11th +5 +3 +3 +7 4 4 4 4 3 2 1
    12th +6/+1 +4 +4 +8 4 4 4 4 3 3 2
    13th +6/+1 +4 +4 +8 4 4 4 4 4 3 2 1
    14th +7/+2 +4 +4 +9 4 4 4 4 4 3 3 2
    15th +7/+2 +5 +5 +9 Bonus feat 4 4 4 4 4 4 3 2 1
    16th +8/+3 +5 +5 +10 4 4 4 4 4 4 3 3 2
    17th +8/+3 +5 +5 +10 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 3 2 1
    18th +9/+4 +6 +6 +11 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 3 3 2
    19th +9/+4 +6 +6 +11 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 3 3
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