Fire Emblem Thread II: Stalwarts Unite!

[Jermell]

Goody, it's always a letdown to only be able to use a dozen units or so.

Yeah just once I'd like to be able to field all my units at once. It's why I like Sacred Contention (emulator mod level) so much.

[Rodin]

I just learned a valuable lesson: Even if you badly need the experience, do not let the staircases in Fort Steiger spawn troops. They will mess you up. Having cleared the map of most enemies (all except the ones in the northeast treasure room and Pharos's personal guards), I decided to bottle up in the other treasure room and take out the rest as they came.

Boy, howdy. They all managed to sync up and I wound up taking on 20+ units all in the space of a few turns. Poor Laurent didn't survive.

I think this is the first time I'm going to be hitting the end-game with a force that primarily consists of the parents. I'm now down at least 4 kids (mostly thanks to them never being born), and the lack of any Risen battles means that I have to throw them in the deepend at level 1 promoted against level 3-7 promoted enemies. Second Sealing away from their starting class is pretty much out of the question for anyone other than Lucina and Morgan - the stats just aren't there.

Doing a no-grind run is tougher than I thought it'd be. Still not as nasty as Lunatic, mind, but man it makes me appreciate those Risen battles more.

[Sylthia]

Question if anybody knows.

If playing in classic mode, can units remarry after their spouse dies? Say I have Donnel married to Nowi. Can I recruit Nah, kill off Nowi and have Donnel marry Sully so I can have Galeforce on Kjelle?

Does that work or are they locked in after procreating or does it destroy the space-time continuum?

[Jermell]

Question if anybody knows.

If playing in classic mode, can units remarry after their spouse dies? Say I have Donnel married to Nowi. Can I recruit Nah, kill off Nowi and have Donnel marry Sully so I can have Galeforce on Kjelle?

Does that work or are they locked in after procreating or does it destroy the space-time continuum?

Nope can't remarry. Apparently Nowi just had the child and Donnel raised Nah on his own or something. So all that accomplished was losing an S-rank support.

[Sylthia]

Nope can't remarry. Apparently Nowi just had the child and Donnel raised Nah on his own or something. So all that accomplished was losing an S-rank support.

Good thing I didn't do it then, I suppose.

[Shishnarfne]

Kishuna, thank you for finally allowing us to defeat you.

Sincerely, Lyn, Raven, Hector, Marcus, and Oswin.


Odd note: the first three on the list all have the same Strength score. This is amazing for one of them, and highly worrying for another.

[Anteros]

Kishuna, thank you for finally allowing us to defeat you.

Sincerely, Lyn, Raven, Hector, Marcus, and Oswin.


Odd note: the first three on the list all have the same Strength score. This is amazing for one of them, and highly worrying for another.

I refuse to believe it's possible to get a Lyn that isn't worthless. She never turns out for me.

[Mando Knight]

Kishuna, thank you for finally allowing us to defeat you.

Sincerely, Lyn, Raven, Hector, Marcus, and Oswin.


Odd note: the first three on the list all have the same Strength score. This is amazing for one of them, and highly worrying for another.

So how many levels higher is Lyn over Raven and Hector?

[Shishnarfne]

So how many levels higher is Lyn over Raven and Hector?

Lyn's only one level up on Hector, though she does have 4 on Raven.

Lyn's +4 Strength, Hector's -2. Since she's pretty much right on her defenses, this means she's incredible at killing things, but dies in 2 hits (you know, if they actually hit).

I once had a weird EHM run where Lyn had the most strength on the team at the end. Somehow.
(Ok, I think Priscilla's magic might have matched it, but Eliwood needed Durandal to barely edge out Lyn's 23 Strength. I think I may have overused her that run.)

[Laughing Dog]

I refuse to believe it's possible to get a Lyn that isn't worthless. She never turns out for me.

Funny, because for me Lyn turns out to be consistently awesome. Now if I could only transfer some of that consistent awesomeness over to Eireka

Also: Thinking of starting another Awakening run, with the Avatar's theme being Batman. Any recommendations as to what strong stat/weak stat, Skills, etc.?

[Illven]

Also: Thinking of starting another Awakening run, with the Avatar's theme being Batman. Any recommendations as to what strong stat/weak stat, Skills, etc.?

Skl +, Mag -

The Batman is skilled but has mo magic.

[Jermell]

Kishuna, thank you for finally allowing us to defeat you.

Sincerely, Lyn, Raven, Hector, Marcus, and Oswin.


Odd note: the first three on the list all have the same Strength score. This is amazing for one of them, and highly worrying for another.

Kishuna is a PAIN. It's so much work to murder someone that, frankly, I feel bad for killing since he didn't really want to fight.

[chiasaur11]

Funny, because for me Lyn turns out to be consistently awesome. Now if I could only transfer some of that consistent awesomeness over to Eireka

Also: Thinking of starting another Awakening run, with the Avatar's theme being Batman. Any recommendations as to what strong stat/weak stat, Skills, etc.?

Make sure to marry Cherche.

Also, run through Sorcerer for the level 5 skill. You are vengeance.

[ZeltArruin]

Make sure to marry Cherche.

I refer to Gerome as Batman, had a feeling I wasn't the only one.

[Anteros]

Batman hates magic. Making him a mage feels wrong.

He also hates killing, so I'm not sure any FE class would work.

[Sylthia]

Batman hates magic. Making him a mage feels wrong.

He also hates killing, so I'm not sure any FE class would work.

Play in casual mode, and he'll just make the enemies retreat.

[Yana]

I refer to Gerome as Batman, had a feeling I wasn't the only one.

I always thought of him more as Nightwing, considering he doesn't have a cape. Though obviously, his personality is closer to Bats than Grayson.

[Laughing Dog]

*pokes head back into thread*
+skill, -magic; Vengeance (I called that one); marry Cherche; Gerome is Batman Beyond? or is he Nightwing?

He has to end up as a The Dark Knight.

Flashpoint Batman kills. Mind you, he isn't Bruce Wayne, but he is still a Batman that kills.

I'm thinking of giving him the Pass skill, but what other skills?

[Rodin]

Luna seems appropriate. "I am the Night" and all that.

[Sylthia]

Since "Hero" is a class, it seems appropriate for Batman.

[Jermell]

*pokes head back into thread*
+skill, -magic; Vengeance (I called that one); marry Cherche; Gerome is Batman Beyond? or is he Nightwing?

He has to end up as a The Dark Knight.

Flashpoint Batman kills. Mind you, he isn't Bruce Wayne, but he is still a Batman that kills.

I'm thinking of giving him the Pass skill, but what other skills?

Bow or tomebreaker. Batman doesn't like ranged weapons.

[Anteros]

He does use swords from time to time. He's actually an expert swordsman. I'd second hero, or maybe swordmaster. Other classes that might thematically fit: Tactician, Trickster, Assassin, or Dread Fighter. There's also the Dark Knight class, but I don't think you will be able to use it for your avatar unit.

[Mando Knight]

Bow or tomebreaker. Batman doesn't like ranged weapons.

He doesn't like guns. He's absolutely fine with batarangs.

[Sylthia]

I'm not sure of others' opinions of it, but I'm not a fan of the recent move to make so many hybrid physical weapon/staff users. It seems we have more of them than tome/staff units in Awakening.

[Mando Knight]

I'm not sure of others' opinions of it, but I'm not a fan of the recent move to make so many hybrid physical weapon/staff users. It seems we have more of them than tome/staff units in Awakening.

That's because there are:
Trickster (Sword/staff)
Pegasus (Lance/staff)
War Monk/Cleric (Axe/staff)
Bride (Lance/bow/staff)

Sage (Tome/staff)
Valkyrie (Tome/staff)

There's even more weapon/tome hybrids than there are tome/staff hybrids:
Grandmaster (Sword/tome)
Dark Flier (Lance/tome)
Dark Knight (Sword/tome)
Dread Fighter (Sword/axe/tome)

Also interesting is that half the staff-using classes are female-only. And Tharja is the only first-generation character who can use tomes, but never staffs, outside the Bride class, but many of the characters that can use both do so through classes that offer one or the other (such as Falcon Knight or Dark Flier, or Sorcerer/Dark Knight or Trickster).

[Sylthia]

That's because there are:
Trickster (Sword/staff)
Pegasus (Lance/staff)
War Monk/Cleric (Axe/staff)
Bride (Lance/bow/staff)

Sage (Tome/staff)
Valkyrie (Tome/staff)

There's even more weapon/tome hybrids than there are tome/staff hybrids:
Grandmaster (Sword/tome)
Dark Flier (Lance/tome)
Dark Knight (Sword/tome)
Dread Fighter (Sword/axe/tome)

Also interesting is that half the staff-using classes are female-only. And Tharja is the only first-generation character who can use tomes, but never staffs, outside the Bride class, but many of the characters that can use both do so through classes that offer one or the other (such as Falcon Knight or Dark Flier, or Sorcerer/Dark Knight or Trickster).

I guess it's a result of removing light magic completely and having Dark Magic being a sub group of Elemental Magic that removes a lot of possible Magic/Staff Combo possibilities.

[Anarion]

He does use swords from time to time. He's actually an expert swordsman. I'd second hero, or maybe swordmaster. Other classes that might thematically fit: Tactician, Trickster, Assassin, or Dread Fighter. There's also the Dark Knight class, but I don't think you will be able to use it for your avatar unit.

Batman Avatar can and should end in the dark knight class, though I also approve of Luna first.

I guess it's a result of removing light magic completely and having Dark Magic being a sub group of Elemental Magic that removes a lot of possible Magic/Staff Combo possibilities.

I was really sad about this, personally. I liked it when magic had its own triangle, or the different type specials like in PoR. This game mostly made fire useless. You used wind and thunder, or wind and dark if you had dark.

[Anteros]

Batman Avatar can and should end in the dark knight class, though I also approve of Luna first.



I was really sad about this, personally. I liked it when magic had its own triangle, or the different type specials like in PoR. This game mostly made fire useless. You used wind and thunder, or wind and dark if you had dark.

I haven't played awakening yet, so I wasn't sure. Thanks.

Batman still hates magic though, so I still don't think it's an appropriate class for him, despite the name.

[Mando Knight]

I guess it's a result of removing light magic completely and having Dark Magic being a sub group of Elemental Magic that removes a lot of possible Magic/Staff Combo possibilities.

Yeah. The only possibilities left would be a 3-weapon tome/staff/physical combo, or something like a flying Valkyrie or staff-wielding Sorcerer.

[Sylthia]

Yeah. The only possibilities left would be a 3-weapon tome/staff/physical combo, or something like a flying Valkyrie or staff-wielding Sorcerer.

A really want a Staff using Sorc. Or at least make Dark Gift available to more than one and a half units.