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2014-04-06, 01:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-04-06, 01:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-04-12, 06:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-04-12, 08:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why are the gods scared of Pandorym?
Or they furiously hump, breaking the minds of all the inhabitants of the Cage, who will pull out their own eyes and eat them before jumping into the nearest portal and spend screaming every second of the rest of their lives (that is, until they are killed or die of starvation because they can't scream and eat at the same time).
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2014-04-12, 08:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-04-12, 08:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-04-12, 01:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why are the gods scared of Pandorym?
Maybe she is a deity, berk.
Seriously, nobody knows what she is. But this is off-topic.
Returning to Pandorym, a story that will end with its release would be very interesting. I'd like to read about the epic battle between the gods and Pandorym. And the destruction of the Realms, and their reinvention.
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2014-04-13, 12:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why are the gods scared of Pandorym?
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2014-04-13, 01:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-04-13, 06:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why are the gods scared of Pandorym?
Is Sigil part of the Realms? If so, Pandorym could kill Lady of Pain, because it is supposed to destroy the entire Realms.
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2014-04-13, 06:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-04-13, 09:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why are the gods scared of Pandorym?
There's no guarantee that destroying Sigil would destroy LoP. In fact, it might just *free* her instead.
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2014-04-13, 09:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-04-13, 12:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why are the gods scared of Pandorym?
This thread is awesome...
By the way, I would argue that Pandorym is not actually psionic, not ever anything actually like it, it's just that we are not going to invent a new parallel of casting and psionics just for an Elder Evil. They don't have psionics or magic where Pandorym is from, but psionics is the cleanest way to handle his powers. Since he's not psionic, the Annulus is Useluss.
This is the Far Realm we're talking about, people. In fact, I would find it utterly ridiculous if they had the exact same psionic system that we have.
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2014-04-13, 04:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-04-13, 07:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-04-13, 09:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why are the gods scared of Pandorym?
Maybe he just says really hurtful things whenever he gets invited to parties.
The inmates are running the asylum.
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2014-04-13, 10:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-04-14, 08:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why are the gods scared of Pandorym?
This must be an interesting place.
Answering to the OP's question, the gods are scared of Pandorym because:
-It is, at its full power, much more powerful than the deities together.
-It wants to completely destroy the gods. Completely in the sense that it will kill the souls of the gods, their essences. It wants to send the gods to eternal oblivion.
-It will destroy the Universe.
These aren't enough reasons?
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2014-04-14, 02:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why are the gods scared of Pandorym?
Well, Pandorym's motivation is pretty much just to kill the gods to fulfill it's end of the contract and then go back home. He only goes on his omnicidal rampage if he's stopped from doing one of those two, especially the latter.
Incidentally, the solution that the gods had was pretty much just to batten down all hatches to the Prime Material and let Pandorym eat it, if his Sign is any indication. I'm pretty sure that Reality Revision lets him get through it, though.
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2014-04-14, 03:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-04-15, 03:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why are the gods scared of Pandorym?
What I have never understood was how can a being be more powerful than all the gods combined and still be split and imprisoned by mortal artificers? How did they even get information about this creature? And since, to my knowledge, AO has complete power within his own crystal sphere could this Pandorym pose any threat? Personally I have never liked the idea of something that powerful and yet weak enough to be imprisoned by mortals. That to me is strange. And also the fact that somehow the Imaskar was more clever that the gods. And even more powerful. I don’t know what level spells they cast to create the godwall, but if they can imprison pandorym and the deities can’t do nothing about the pandorym then why did the imaskar need to get such a being in the first place when they were obviously more powerful than the gods?
The whole thing makes no sense to me.
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2014-04-15, 03:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why are the gods scared of Pandorym?
Well, yeah, but, my point, or rather that of my esteemed friend RPGaddict28 aka one of my 3.5 DMs (incidentally, the fact that he's reading EE has me somewhat scared), was that, despite all this, the gods have an artifact that no-questions-asked instagibs any psionic creature.
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2014-04-15, 04:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-04-15, 07:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why are the gods scared of Pandorym?
The mind shard is a psionic creature, but maybe the fully formed Pandorym isn´t. Therefore, the artifact might be useless against Pandorym. Even if fully Pandorym is psionic, you will not have the chance to use it against Pandorym, because ¨the wielder can trigger this effect as a special action requiring 10 rounds of continuous concentration to complete¨. I doubt that Pandorym will wait 10 rounds - you will be killed in no time, long before you can use the artifact.
Originally Posted by Melcar
Originally Posted by Melcar
Originally Posted by Melcar
I can imagine that they have created an one-time epic spell in order to split Pandorym. I guess that they pushed the Weave to its limits to create that spell. The book says ¨many gave their lives to do so¨ (splitting Pandorym).
So the ritual required a tremendous amount of energy, and some casters died during the process.
And maybe they were helped by a powerful entity. Not necessarily Ao or some gods, rather an external entity. Maybe they were helped by a god of from the Abyss. Who knows?
Originally Posted by Melcar
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2014-04-15, 08:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why are the gods scared of Pandorym?
Mortals, especially the magi that would have split Pandorym, are the very definition of Weak But Skilled. You don't need power to outwit an enemy.
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2014-04-15, 09:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why are the gods scared of Pandorym?
The Imaskari were operating in the time period before Netheril, and thus they had access to the Weave as maintained by Mystryl, rather than with the limitations imposed on it by Mystra. They also, IIRC, had the Shadow Weave. So even if they did push the Weave fairly heavily, they were also pushing it on a scale that "modern" spellcasters (i.e. the 1-to-9-and-epic) may not be capable of.
Maybe Ao will allow Pandorym to kill all the gods. Why not? He does not intervene directly in the events of his own sphere. Or maybe Ao will be unable to stop Pandorym. I mean, the reformed Pandorym has the power level of an overgod.
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2014-04-15, 11:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Why are the gods scared of Pandorym?
My point was that it seems counterproductive to spends such a vast amount of power getting the pandoryn here in the first place. It would seem that if the spend the time/power getting the pandorym on battling the god they might actually have won.
Also a non-split pandorym might have the power of an over deity (where is this info from btw), which makes it even more unbelievable that the succeeded. And even though the Pandorym might be as strong as AO (which I personally find hard to believe) he still has full command over his own sphere, just like Asmodeus has over hell. Meaning that he could banish and keep out the pandorym if he so wished... AFAIK.
What I also find unbelievably is that the mystryl weave might have no max level spells, we just know that the highest level spell was 12, but we also know that the elves' high magic could surpass what was doable by level 12 and its fair to believe that the imaskari had their own form of ritual magic (godwall). But if they were able to split and imprison pandorym I find it unbelievable that the gods can’t stop the pandorym. It might be some form of rock, paper scissors, but still i find this unlikely.
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2014-04-15, 01:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-04-15, 10:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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