OOTS By Page Count

[Rogar Demonblud]

1178 = 1 page

Book 6, Utterly Dwarfed, is 72 pages from equaling the published length of Blood Runs In The Family.

[Squire Doodad]

I believe we just passed the 10 page mark until the end.
5 pages until someone owes me Quatloos, apparently.

[Rogar Demonblud]

1179 = 1 page

Book 6, Utterly Dwarfed, is 71 pages from equaling the published length of Blood Runs In The Family.

[Rogar Demonblud]

1180 = 1 page

Book 6, Utterly Dwarfed, is 70 pages from equaling the published length of Blood Runs In The Family.

[Rogar Demonblud]

1181 = 1 page

Book 6, Utterly Dwarfed, is 69 pages from equaling the published length of Blood Runs In The Family.

[jwhouk]

1181 = 1 page

Book 6, Utterly Dwarfed, is 69 pages from equaling the published length of Blood Runs In The Family.

Also, nice.

[Squire Doodad]

Also, nice.

Yes, Utterly Dwarfed is now cancerous

MUHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAyesIgotthejoke

[Rogar Demonblud]

1182 = 1 page

Book 6, Utterly Dwarfed, is 68 pages from equaling the published length of Blood Runs In The Family.

[Rogar Demonblud]

1183 = 1 page

Book 6, Utterly Dwarfed, is 67 pages from equaling the published length of Blood Runs In The Family.

[Rogar Demonblud]

1184 = 1 page

Book 6, Utterly Dwarfed, is 66 pages from equaling the published length of Blood Runs In The Family.

[LadyEowyn]

Which is to say, it’s 302 pages. We’ve been told that Utterly Dwarfed will be 352 pages, so that’s 50 pages remaining (total, including the online strip and bonus content/chapter pages/etc).

[Rogar Demonblud]

Not really guesswork, though, since Rich has already provided a rough breakout of the extras.

* More than 10 and less than 20 bonus comics!
* Nine pages of author commentary only some readers care about!
* A map of the Northern Continent that a distinct but in some places overlapping subset of readers cares about!
* A recap of the story so far by someone who looks a lot like Durkon Thundershield!
* A foreword by Haley Starshine!
* Some other odds and ends that fit in the inevitable gaps when it turns out a chapter ends on a recto page but needs to end on a verso!
* Maybe a preface? I don't know, the person I invited hasn't gotten back to me yet!

[SirKazum]

Not really guesswork, though, since Rich has already provided a rough breakout of the extras.

There's a *little* bit of guesswork though, with the uncertainty of how many pages the bonus comics will be, as well as some other formatting things and stuff that may or may not be present. You've seen the discussion upthread of course, but just recapping, I think (IMO) the bare minimum (and highly unlikely) number of non-online-comic pages is 24, which would leave us with 26 online comic pages left. By ella ventic's assessment, there should be anywhere from 39 to 50 extra pages, which sounds like a much more sensible range to me, so that means anywhere from zero to 11 online comic pages left. Since the last online comic in a book tends to be a double-pager, this means at most 10 more updates, probably less, just enough to wrap up loose ends (maybe showing Team Evil?) before the book is done.

[Rogar Demonblud]

The book is shortly heading off to the printers to make the early December ship date. Also, remember the beginning of Round cover pages.

[ella ventic]

Yep, the final strips have always been multi-pagers.

DCF: strip 120 (2-page)
NCftPB: strip 300 (2-page)
W&XPs: strips 483 (2-page) and 484 (3-page)
DStP: strip 672 (3-page)
BRitF: strips 945 (2-page) and 946 (3-page)

This does seem like a trend that the Giant could change if he wanted to, but my personal guess is that it will hold for this book too.

In fact, I'll also guess that we have fewer than 4 updates left. I was very wrong with my first guess in this thread--initially predicted 16 pages *longer* than BRitF--so let's see if I have better luck trying for the smaller numbers!

[Rogar Demonblud]

1185 = 1 page

Book 6, Utterly Dwarfed, is 65 pages from equaling the published length of Blood Runs In The Family.

[Rogar Demonblud]

1186 = 1 page

Book 6, Utterly Dwarfed, is 64 pages from equaling the published length of Blood Runs In The Family.

[SirKazum]

In fact, I'll also guess that we have fewer than 4 updates left. I was very wrong with my first guess in this thread--initially predicted 16 pages *longer* than BRitF--so let's see if I have better luck trying for the smaller numbers!

As per the latest update, sounds like you're right. I don't think there's anything else to say about the OOTS proper / Mechane in the current book, so I'm expecting a quick cut to either Team Evil or the two paladins (maybe both at once), just enough to tease some dramatic development that will shape the final showdown and provide for a suitable, impacting splash page to close the book with. So that means either just one more multi-page update, or possibly two if there's additional context to provide (not counting on that, since we've got a pretty good handle on the situation at the North Pole already). This, of course, barring some sort of curveball from Rich

[Rogar Demonblud]

1187 = 1 page

Book 6, Utterly Dwarfed, is 63 pages from equaling the published length of Blood Runs In The Family.

[Squire Doodad]

1188 is also 1 page, making it 62 pages away.

[Rogar Demonblud]

1189 = 3 pages

Book 6, Utterly Dwarfed, is 59 pages from equaling the published length of Blood Runs In The Family.

[ella ventic]

There we go, another three-page final strip, complete with cliffhanger mystery guests. Love it.

I was off again with my length prediction--though not by as much, this time! I would try to guess the round breaks, but Gift Jeraff has already done that, here, and his guesses match my initial ones nearly exactly. The only difference is that I was imagining the denouement would be round 10. (It starts with 1178, which hadn't yet appeared at that time, but we knew there would be some kind of denouement, so I set aside a round for it.) Now that we know there are only 9 rounds total, though, I would think that his rounds 6 and 7 are indeed one round (round 6) and the numbers after that shift accordingly.

The only other variables are in bonus features: how many pages is the map? Will there be a foreword (or, as the books usually spell it, foreward)? Etc., etc. I'll say two pages for the map, "sure" for the foreword, and if everything else remains standard that puts us between 11 and 13 bonus strips.

That's all I've got at this point. Unless we want to take a shot at the next and final book! "The potential to be even longer," you say, hmm, Rich? 384 pages? 400?!

[Rogar Demonblud]

Don't throw down challenges your body may not be able to back up when you try to pick up the book.

Does somebody on the Playground still have the table to post?

[hamishspence]

As of 1189

Book	# of Online Strips	# of Online Pages*	Xtra Pages	Total Book Pages
DCF	121	122.5	37.5	160
NCftPB	180	197	47	244
W&XP	183	242	46	288
DStP	188	226	46	272
BRitF	274	320	48	368
UD	243	309	43	352
Book 7	???	???	???	???

[nabcif]

1139 = 2 pages

Given how long the second page is - I think that's a representation of two pages rather than one - so we really have three pages not two.

Unfortunately, I cannot read The Giant's mind, so I have no way to know what he intends to do there.

Spoiler: Utterly Dwarfed

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1139 ("To Remember Them By") is four pages.

For some reason, I find it amusing that I have been awaiting the answer to this for exactly 15 months.

[Peelee]

Spoiler: Utterly Dwarfed

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1139 ("To Remember Them By") is four pages.

For some reason, I find it amusing that I have been awaiting the answer to this for exactly 15 months.

After seeing it in the book, I have to note that it's one of those strips which just works significantly better in online format with the seamless vertical scroll. Like Roy's fall.

[Rogar Demonblud]

Yeah. Although it should still look pretty epic as a two page splash panel in the book.

Course, I had a different realization about that page a while ago.

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First, Rich is a genius, in that he just redefined a multiverse to be worlds separated by time rather than distance. An innovation I had never even thought about as possible.

Second, with a near infinite number of worlds, each covering a specific expression of a given genre, any story he writes after this is technically an OOTS-verse story. Benevolent global empire run by, IDK, Kenya? World #87879734241. Steampunk Sci-fi? 18 worlds at last count. Talking animals cyberpunk? Yes, Please!

Short version, OOTS the comic ends at some point next decade. OOTS the brand can go on forever.

[Peelee]

Yeah. Although it should still look pretty epic as a two page splash panel in the book.

Oh, it stlll very much does.

Spoiler: I'm just talking about the art, so it's hardly a spoiler, but still. Maybe some people want to see it first themselves.

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Instead of all the graves being arranged vertically, they're arranged horizontally, so he had to have tweaked it some. Gives the same great effect, just spread out over pages and looks natural in book format.

Short version, OOTS the comic ends at some point next decade. OOTS the brand can go on forever.

That's a pretty clever way to think about it!

[Jaxzan Proditor]

At least we get the fun predictions on how many pages are left in the actual comic (thanks to those of you who went ahead and did the actual math!). I’ll put in my own guesses for rounds:

947-963 (the storm)
964-990 (Tinkertown)
991-1030 (the Godsmoot)
1031-1042 (Kraagor’s Gate)
1043-1078 (the frost giants)
1079-1089 (Hel and the vampires)
1090-1115 (Firmament)
1116-1131 (defeating Durkon*)
1132-1148 (the afterlife)
1149-onward (the Council of Clans)

Spoiler: Round Division in Utterly Dwarfed

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Looking back on this, my main mistake was in thinking the round size and division would be around what it had been in the past books. I was right about the first five rounds (except where exactly Round 5 ended), but then what I thought would be three rounds was just one big round. After that, I also didn’t correctly predict where the next round would end and I didn’t know enough at the time to predict there would be one final round after the Council.

So, hopefully I’ll have better luck predicting the rounds next time!

[Rogar Demonblud]

First, as of the cover for book 7 (working title Libris Ultimo):

72 pages short of On the Origin of PCs

112 pages short of Start of Darkness

160 pages short of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools

244 pages short of No Cure For The Paladin Blues

288 pages short of War & XPs

272 pages short of Don't Split the Party

368 pages short of Blood Runs in the Family

352 pages short of Utterly Dwarfed