OOTS By Page Count

[martianmister]

As of 1156

Book	# of Online Strips	# of Online Pages*	Xtra Pages	Total Book Pages
DCF	121	122.5	37.5	160
NCftPB	180	197	47	244
W&XP	183	242	46	288
DStP	188	226	46	272
BRitF	274	320	48	368
Book 6	210	270	???	???

Temporary edit of the chart.

[hamishspence]

As of 1157

Book	# of Online Strips	# of Online Pages*	Xtra Pages	Total Book Pages
DCF	121	122.5	37.5	160
NCftPB	180	197	47	244
W&XP	183	242	46	288
DStP	188	226	46	272
BRitF	274	320	48	368
Book 6	211	271	???	???

Another temporary edit of chart.

[Rogar Demonblud]

1157 = 1 page

Book 6 is now 2 pages from matching Don't Split the Party, and 18 pages until equaling War & XPs.

[hamishspence]

Book 6 is now 2 pages from matching Don't Split the Party

One page, surely - going by the chart, it has 271 pages to DStP's 272?

[Rogar Demonblud]

The chart contains several estimates about how larger page spreads will be arranged--most notably the graveyard of the worlds. Porthos and I just count actual pages, since we don't know how Rich intends to handle those--many people were expecting the 'infinite canvas' shot in W&XPs to be about seven pages in the book, but Porthos lowballed it and was proven right. Well, more right.

Likewise, there are no estimates about bonus content. Well, those people don't post in the thread anymore, to be more accurate.

[hamishspence]

The chart contains several estimates about how larger page spreads will be arranged--most notably the graveyard of the worlds. Porthos and I just count actual pages, since we don't know how Rich intends to handle those--many people were expecting the 'infinite canvas' shot in W&XPs to be about seven pages in the book, but Porthos lowballed it and was proven right. Well, more right.

Good point - I think 1143 was the point where your count stopped matching the table.

Your figure was 21 pages to match DStP, martianmister's indicates 20 pages:

1143 = 1 page

Book 6 is now 21 pages from matching Don't Split the Party, and 37 pages until equaling War & XPs.

As of 1143

Book	# of Online Strips	# of Online Pages*	Xtra Pages	Total Book Pages
DCF	121	122.5	37.5	160
NCftPB	180	197	47	244
W&XP	183	242	46	288
DStP	188	226	46	272
BRitF	274	320	48	368
Book 6	197	252	???	???

Temporary edit of the chart. It's now the second longest book.

[Rogar Demonblud]

1158 = 1 page

Book 6 is now 1 page from matching Don't Split the Party, and 17 pages until equaling War & XPs.

[martianmister]

Good point - I think 1143 was the point where your count stopped matching the table.

Your figure was 21 pages to match DStP, martianmister's indicates 20 pages:

Actually it's 1139.

[facw]

Apologies if this has already been discussed (I'd guess it has), but what's the story with Good Deeds Gone Unpunished? I see we have Spoiler Alert and How the Paladin Got His Scar in the Yet To Be Compiled section, but it seems like those have been compiled?

[Gift Jeraff]

Apologies if this has already been discussed (I'd guess it has), but what's the story with Good Deeds Gone Unpunished? I see we have Spoiler Alert and How the Paladin Got His Scar in the Yet To Be Compiled section, but it seems like those have been compiled?

The OP of this thread has been absent for a year.

[Rogar Demonblud]

1159 = 1 page

Book 6 now matches the published Don't Split the Party, and is 16 pages until equaling War & XPs.

[Rogar Demonblud]

1160 = 1 page

Book 6 is 15 pages until equaling War & XPs.

[martianmister]

As of 1160

Book	# of Online Strips	# of Online Pages*	Xtra Pages	Total Book Pages
DCF	121	122.5	37.5	160
NCftPB	180	197	47	244
W&XP	183	242	46	288
DStP	188	226	46	272
BRitF	274	320	48	368
Book 6	214	274	???	???

Temporary edit of the chart.

[Rogar Demonblud]

1161 = 1 page

Book 6 is 14 pages until equaling War & XPs.

[Rogar Demonblud]

1162 = 1 page

Book 6 is 13 pages until equaling War & XPs.

[martianmister]

As of 1162

Book	# of Online Strips	# of Online Pages*	Xtra Pages	Total Book Pages
DCF	121	122.5	37.5	160
NCftPB	180	197	47	244
W&XP	183	242	46	288
DStP	188	226	46	272
BRitF	274	320	48	368
Book 6	216	276	???	???

Temporary edit of the chart.

[Rogar Demonblud]

1163 = 1 page

Book 6 is 12 pages until equaling War & XPs.

Book 6 is 92 pages from equaling the published length of Blood Runs In The Family (aka Ungawa Mucho).

[Rogar Demonblud]

1164 = 1 page

Book 6 is 11 pages until equaling War & XPs.

Book 6 is 91 pages from equaling the published length of Blood Runs In The Family (aka Ungawa Mucho).

[Rogar Demonblud]

1165 = 1 page

Book 6 is 10 pages until equaling War & XPs.

Book 6 is 90 pages from equaling the published length of Blood Runs In The Family (aka Ungawa Mucho).

[Rogar Demonblud]

1166 = 2 page

Book 6 is 8 pages until equaling War & XPs.

Book 6 is 88 pages from equaling the published length of Blood Runs In The Family (aka Ungawa Mucho).

[ella ventic]

Is it too early to place our bets for final published book length? My money is on Book 6 ending up with sixteen more pages than BRitF, so a total of 384.

[Rogar Demonblud]

I don't think we'll get that far, but the fact that the current count is before introduction, author commentary and any bonus content is...daunting. I might need to start hitting the gym more often before trying to carry this book around.

[martianmister]

As of 1166

Book	# of Online Strips	# of Online Pages*	Xtra Pages	Total Book Pages
DCF	121	122.5	37.5	160
NCftPB	180	197	47	244
W&XP	183	242	46	288
DStP	188	226	46	272
BRitF	274	320	48	368
Book 6	220	281	???	???

Temporary edit of the chart.

[ella ventic]

You might well be right that we won't get that far, but the great thing about this thread is it lets us crunch the numbers. *pushes glasses up nose*

Using your count, we're 88 pages from BRitF. (martianmister's gives 87, but let's use the longer one.)

On-the-low-side-of-average estimates would give us 46 pages for bonus material and 14 pages for denouement. That leaves only 28 to finish the climactic battle. (And that's not strips, of course, that's pages. Assuming the same strip-to-page ratio of the book so far, that's about 22 strips.)

It's definitely not impossible! But I'm going to bet that things will run long instead. Because this is OotS. :)

I will say that the odds seem very low of it being shorter than BRitF. Whether it's the same or longer is more of a toss-up, but that's what makes it fun to guess!

[Jaxzan Proditor]

I'll agree that I think we're likely to get quite a book when this is finally wrapped up. It'll be interesting to see how close to BRitF the final product actually ends up being. And then when that's done we can place our bets on the size of Book 7

[CriticalFailure]

Do you think it will end with a climax at the dwarf council, or do you think there will also be a return to the Godsmoot and/or check ins with the Azurites or a new arc villain or the paladins and Team Evil at the north pole?

[Rogar Demonblud]

Next book is the finale, so the arc villains will be Team Evil. The Godsmoot is functionally irrelevant at this point, although I wouldn't be surprised if the end of the vote here results in a pull-back shot until we see the scene contained in Dvalin's 'eye' as he sees what the vote is, resulting in him casting his vote and the HPoO wrapping up the deal. The Azurites back on the island stopped mattering last book, so no reason to check in on them. We might get a hook at the end of Team Evil going into a new tunnel, to remind us that they're still in play.

[ella ventic]

I think I'm pretty safe in saying that this is the final, climactic, battle for this book. Whether it stays in one place geographically, though, who knows? But any steps it takes would have to escalate it... so I could see the protagonists going to Hel's lair, for example, but probably not returning to the Godsmoot for any length of time.

I could be wrong, of course! Now that I've said that I can think of ways the Godsmoot could be an escalation. What if Hel decides to manifest there? But it would still have to be part of this same battle. No travel time or adventures on the way, etc.

As far as checking in with other groups, sure, but that would be saved for the denouement. Seeing them in this sequence would kill the momentum unless they were to have an immediate impact on the fight. Which is not impossible, of course! Also one-panel cutaway jokes, etc. But it would have to be something fast and unexpected; there'd be no set-up or establishing strips.

In the denouement, though, anything goes, I think. Check in with whomever we want for a couple strips at least. It's not what usually happens but I can't think of any narrative reason it couldn't. Team Evil, sure. Azurites, why not. In Good Deeds Go Unpunished, Rich says that

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"I love writing the Katos, but...their part in the overarching plot...is mostly in the past. Hinjo, on the other hand, still has a major role to play in events yet to come"

so there's that coming up, for sure, and I wouldn't be surprised if we get some setup for it while tying up the other loose ends. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't! It's wide open.

[Jaxzan Proditor]

Personally, I think that the last main action will conclude here at the Council*; if we do check back on the Godsmoot, it'll probably only be a brief shot to establish that the vote did indeed fail and maybe to see Hel rant one last time. Similarily, if we're going to check back on other groups, like Team Evil, it'll probably be more of a cliffhanger, like what we got at the end of Book 2, rather than the check-ins we got in this back and the last one.

Also, thanks to ella for pointing out that passage in GDGU, as I had forgotten about it.

*Mind you, I don't think the council is really the climax of the book. To me, that was when Durkon defeated Durkon*.

[Rogar Demonblud]

1167 = 1 page

Book 6 is 7 pages until equaling War & XPs.

Book 6 is 87 pages from equaling the published length of Blood Runs In The Family (aka Ungawa Mucho).