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    1168 = 1 page

    Book 6 is 6 pages until equaling War & XPs.

    Book 6 is 86 pages from equaling the published length of Blood Runs In The Family (aka Ungawa Mucho).

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    1169 = 1 page

    Book 6 is 5 pages until equaling War & XPs.

    Book 6 is 85 pages from equaling the published length of Blood Runs In The Family (aka Ungawa Mucho).

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    1170 = 2 pages

    Book 6 is 3 pages until equaling War & XPs.

    Book 6 is 83 pages from equaling the published length of Blood Runs In The Family (aka Ungawa Mucho).

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    When you consider extra pages, it’s looking very much like Book 6 will be longer than BRITF. We’re still in the middle of the action, and it’s only about 30 pages until it equals the online length of BRITF.

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    Maybe. But commentary has been getting sparser, and Rich has also remarked that he's not likely to do significant bonus material again. So there isn't likely to be a lot of added pages once this wraps up.

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    Blood Runs in the Family had 48 extra pages - the previous two had 46. How does that fit with "commentary is getting sparser"?
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    What it had were more comic pages, the stuff Rich has said he's not doing much of any more. The commentaries are thinning out because Rich has found he doesn't have as much to talk about any more. But maybe we'll get another StickWorld section instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar Demonblud View Post
    What it had were more comic pages, the stuff Rich has said he's not doing much of any more.
    I thought that was more Don't Split the Party - which had two big multi-page bonus strip sections, with Blood Runs In the Family having small, one-strip bonuses at most?
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    I did this count a while ago and can't remember what criteria I used, but here's my tally of bonus comics:

    DCF: 18
    NCftPB: 10
    W&XP: 12
    DStP: 17
    BRitF: 11

    So yeah, according to that, BRitF's extra pages were mostly not made up of new comic material.

    For most books, there are 10 extra pages before we even get to the first comic: title page & overleaf, foreword, preface, introduction, three pages of recap, then the Round 1 title page and its associated commentary.

    And then every Round after that adds two pages for its own title page and commentary. Some rounds have more than one commentary page, but I don't think there's ever been a round entirely without. I don't think that rule has to be set in stone forever, but it's a good guideline for now, anyway.

    The very last page of the book is also not in-comic. Add all that up, assume this book will be 9 rounds to be conservative (though my guess is it will be 10 in reality) and we've already got 27 extra pages. I think that's a good minimum to work from.
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    1171 = 1 page

    Book 6 is 2 pages until equaling War & XPs.

    Book 6 is 82 pages from equaling the published length of Blood Runs In The Family (aka Ungawa Mucho).

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    1172 = 2 pages

    Book 6 now equals War & XPs.

    Book 6 is 80 pages from equaling the published length of Blood Runs In The Family (aka Ungawa Mucho).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar Demonblud View Post
    1172 = 2 pages

    Book 6 now equals War & XPs.

    Book 6 is 80 pages from equaling the published length of Blood Runs In The Family (aka Ungawa Mucho).
    Book 6 also now has a name: Utterly Dwarfed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_Wolf_c View Post
    Book 6 also now has a name: Utterly Dwarfed.

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    Also of note is that the Ookdook page lists Vol 6 as having a total published length of 352 pages.

    So someone with more patience than me could math out a range of possible number of strips left in the volume to be posted.
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    We can't, since Rich has listed several things up in the air (number of bonus strips, guest preface, etc).

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    Howver, he’s said there’s 11-19 bonus comics and 9 pages of commentary (so min. 20 pages for that) plus a recap (normally 3 pages), an foreword and a map.

    So that gives us about 25 pages of bonus content, at the very least. So the maximum number of online comic pages is 327. We are now at 288, so there are, at most, another 39 online comic pages left. I would guess fewer.

    A rough guess for the minimum number of online comic pages left - if there are 19 pages of bonus comics, a preface, and “odds and ends” taking up maybe 8 pages (total: 44 pages bonus content) is 18 online comic pages.

    So, broad estimate: 18 to 39 online pages left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyEowyn View Post
    Howver, he’s said there’s 11-19 bonus comics and 9 pages of commentary (so min. 20 pages for that) plus a recap (normally 3 pages), an foreword and a map.

    So that gives us about 25 pages of bonus content, at the very least. So the maximum number of online comic pages is 327. We are now at 288, so there are, at most, another 39 online comic pages left. I would guess fewer.
    Plus there are introduction pages for each Round, and a preface, and (IIRC) always a mostly-blank page at the end with some random character, usually being snarky, but sometimes just bowing (Miko). I'm going to guess there are going to be maybe 8-10 Rounds, which brings us to 29 online comic pages left at most. Unless some or all of those pages are not included in the total page count, which seems highly unlikely to me, except maybe the random page at the end with the random character.

    On another note, can I ask what "Ungawa Mucho" is supposed to mean? I feel like I missed something.

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    Google translate claims it's Zulu for "you can fall down."

    If anything, that just makes me have more questions!
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    Man, I must be ancient if nobody gets the reference.

    Ungawa was a line back in the Weissmuller Tarzan days, generally used for anything really big, really bad, or both (i.e., rampaging rhinos). It kind of spread to every other caveman type character, most notably Bubba on the original Ducktales.

    Mucho is just Spanish for much or many, or even really (it's a cromulent multi-use word).

    Ungawa mucho is thus something really, really big. Which describes BRITF to a T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    Google translate claims it's Zulu for "you can fall down."

    If anything, that just makes me have more questions!
    Same, basically. My own Google search only revealed that "Ungawa" is the word Tarzan used to communicate with the animals, and that it's also used by Dave Chapelle as a parody of how white people address other races.

    So now I really want to know why it's being used as a synonym for BRitF. Is it just that the book is too heavy to carry without falling over? Not to brag or anything, but I have been known to carry the entirety of Book 5 across the room without falling down once.
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    I'll give it a go anyway!

    By cumulative page numbers. Minimum possible is listed to the left of the slash, maximum is to the right. Pretty much in order, from the top:

    1 title page
    2 overleaf (copyright info, etc.)
    3 foreword by Haley
    4 preface? may not exist.
    4 / 5 introduction by Rich? may not exist.
    4-6 / 6-8 recap by Durkon. These are usually 3 pages long so the round 1 title page is on a recto (odd-numbered) page.
    7-24 / 9-26 All nine round title pages plus their accompanying commentary pages. (I guessed there would be ten rounds, but according to Rich's post, there are only 9 commentary pages. So nine rounds it is.)
    25-313 / 27-316 The existing 288 (or 289, depending on your count) comic pages.
    314-325 / 317-336 Bonus strips, 11 at minimum, 19 at maximum.
    326 / 337-338 Map of Northern continent. Just guessing that the min is 1 page and max is 2.
    327 (actually 328) / 339 (actually 340) Final page (mostly white page with a character commenting on the book). Must be verso (even-numbered) page, so I've gone to the next even number up.

    Using the minimum counts, we've got 352-328=24 comic pages left.

    Using the maximum counts, we've got 352-340=12 comic pages left.

    And denouements usually take at least 10 strips! Are we going to see this battle won for good in the next two strips? (My guess is no! But maybe this book could have a very short denouement, to launch us into the final arc of the story...?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emanick View Post
    Plus there are introduction pages for each Round, and a preface, and (IIRC) always a mostly-blank page at the end with some random character, usually being snarky, but sometimes just bowing (Miko). I'm going to guess there are going to be maybe 8-10 Rounds, which brings us to 29 online comic pages left at most. Unless some or all of those pages are not included in the total page count, which seems highly unlikely to me, except maybe the random page at the end with the random character.

    On another note, can I ask what "Ungawa Mucho" is supposed to mean? I feel like I missed something.
    I think the introductory pages for the rounds are the commentary pages that Rich is talking about.

    EDIT: Oh, you mean the title pages for the chapters in addition to the commentary. Forgot about those.
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    Aw, now we can't have a thread where we all make predictions about Book 6's title or featured character on the cover. Oh well, I still find it fun to guess how the chapters will be divided:

    Round 1: #947 - #963 (calm during the storm)
    Round 2: #964 - #990 (Tinkertown)
    Round 3: #991 - #1030 (Godsmoot)
    Round 4: #1031 - #1042 (North Pole)
    Round 5: #1043 - #1080 (frost giants)
    Round 6: #1081 - #1089 (Hel of a chapter)
    Round 7: #1090 - #1131 (Firmament)
    Round 8: #1132 - #1154 (life after undeath)
    Round 9: #1155 - (climax)

    Maybe merge the Hel/vampire section with the frost giant or Firmament round and Round 9 will be the denouement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gift Jeraff View Post
    Aw, now we can't have a thread where we all make predictions about Book 6's title or featured character on the cover. Oh well, I still find it fun to guess how the chapters will be divided
    At least we get the fun predictions on how many pages are left in the actual comic (thanks to those of you who went ahead and did the actual math!). I’ll put in my own guesses for rounds:

    947-963 (the storm)
    964-990 (Tinkertown)
    991-1030 (the Godsmoot)
    1031-1042 (Kraagor’s Gate)
    1043-1078 (the frost giants)
    1079-1089 (Hel and the vampires)
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    1173 = 2 pages

    Book 6, Utterly Dwarfed, is 78 pages from equaling the published length of Blood Runs In The Family.

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    The last four books have had 46 to 48 pages in addition to online content. By that pattern, we've got 304 to 306 online pages in total. So we're about 15 pages from the end.
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    1174 = 1 pages

    Book 6, Utterly Dwarfed, is 77 pages from equaling the published length of Blood Runs In The Family.

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    1175 = 1 page

    Book 6, Utterly Dwarfed, is 76 pages from equaling the published length of Blood Runs In The Family.

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    1176 = 1 page

    Book 6, Utterly Dwarfed, is 75 pages from equaling the published length of Blood Runs In The Family.

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    1177 = 2 pages

    Book 6, Utterly Dwarfed, is 73 pages from equaling the published length of Blood Runs In The Family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emanick View Post
    Plus there are introduction pages for each Round, and a preface, and (IIRC) always a mostly-blank page at the end with some random character, usually being snarky, but sometimes just bowing (Miko). I'm going to guess there are going to be maybe 8-10 Rounds, which brings us to 29 online comic pages left at most. Unless some or all of those pages are not included in the total page count, which seems highly unlikely to me, except maybe the random page at the end with the random character.
    352 is an even multiple of 16, printers like even multiples of 16, hence it's front and back cover, inside front and back cover, and 352 interior pages.

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