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    From the book announcement thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    Just a note about the book: Turns out the number of pages was incorrect; it's only 368 pages, not 384. This doesn't change anything about it, all the same material is still included, I just put the wrong number when writing the announcements based on a misreading of the bookmap (I had my signatures misnumbered in the document). I'm only mentioning it for full disclosure.
    OK, this makes so much more sense! In fact, I had been doing the math on my own and I just couldn't figure out what the 'extra' 17 or so pages were.

    So, I'm about to make some changes here, natch.

    Also, official retroactive congratulations to Jaxzan Proditor and 2.5 cats for nailing the number and having faith in the Rule of 16.

    ETA:::::

    Basic Block

    As of 965
    Book # of Online Strips # of Online Pages Xtra Pages Total Book Pages
    DCF
    121
    122.5
    37.5
    160
    NCftPB
    180
    197
    47
    244
    W&XP
    183
    242
    46
    288
    DStP
    188
    226
    46
    272
    BRitF
    274
    318.75
    49.25
    368
    Book 6
    19
    23
    ???
    ???

    49 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.



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    Compilation Books as of 965
    Book Online Strips Online Pages Bonus Strips Chapters Commentary Pages* Other Xtras** Total Pages
    DCF
    121
    122.5
    18
    5
    8.5
    6
    160
    NCftPB
    180
    197
    12
    10
    16
    9
    244
    W&XP
    183
    242
    14
    8
    15.5
    8.5
    288
    DStP
    188
    226
    17
    9
    12.083
    7.917
    272
    BRitF
    274
    318.75
    17
    ???
    10+
    ???
    368
    Book 6
    19
    23
    ???
    ???
    ???
    ???
    ???

    Print Only Books
    Book Comic Pages Chapters Commentary* Other Xtras** Total Pages
    OtOoPC
    66
    n/a
    2
    4
    72
    SoD
    107
    n/a
    2
    3
    112
    SS&DT
    97.5
    4
    5.175
    5.325
    112

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    13
    H&J
    25
    1
    26


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    ** Other Xtras includes, when applicable, the Recap Strips, Cast of Characters Pages, Character Drawings, Blank/Book Information Pages, Promos, and Various Other Miscellanea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintRidley View Post
    A useless measure, but not counting Book 6 because it's not print yet, all of the print books (plus kickstarter PDF stories) total at the moment 1683 pages of content.

    Book 6 brings us over 1700 so far - to 1706 pages and running.

    Just in case that's ever of interest.
    With the corrected information, this brings us to 1667 and 1690 respectively.

    Still a whale of a book, obviously.

    (and, as I said, I'm kinda glad for this announcement as things make sense once again )
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    Maybe the Giant is just trolling you, Porthos

    The good news is, with the smaller size we probably won't need personal forklifts to move the book around, right?
    Suspiciously normal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordae View Post
    Maybe the Giant is just trolling you, Porthos
    Life makes sense again, so he can troll me all he wants.

    The good news is, with the smaller size we probably won't need personal forklifts to move the book around, right?
    I know, right?

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    One of the other raison d'être of this thread is trying to figure out where chapter breaks might be. I figure we're looking at around 10 to 12 chapters (including calling an epilouge a chapter), depending on whether or not Rich skips a chapter for commentary and/or some chapters have more than one page of commentary.

    Still, with a baseline of 10 chapters and perhaps one epilogue, where do folks think the chapter breaks might fall? Some are pretty obvious (cuts to and from Team Evil, for instance). But others might be less so.

    Since it doesn't look like the bonus content will be full all-new segment breaks like what happened in DStP, let's get some predictions here. I know people have made them in the past. But now that we have a bit more info, I think we might be able to narrow things down a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Porthos View Post
    One of the other rai·son d'ê·tre' of this thread is trying to figure out where chapter breaks might be. I figure we're looking at around 10 to 12 chapters (including calling an epilouge a chapter), depending on whether or not Rich skips a chapter for commentary and/or some chapters have more than one page of commentary.
    I made this list earlier in the thread, though I have added two additional brakes thanks to fellow playgrounders:

    1. 673-698: Desert shenanigans
    2. 699-709: Team Evil
    3. 710-734: Empire of Blood (part 1)
    4. 735-774: Empire of Blood (part 2)
    5. 775-822: Arena
    6. 823-833: Team Evil
    7. 834-863: Girard's pyramid (outside/top floor)
    8. 864-898: Girard's pyramid (inside)
    9. 899-936: Advanced Escaping
    10. 937-946: Epilogue

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    1. 673-698 (desert crawlin' fools)
    2. 699-709 (Team Evil)
    3. 710-752 (Empire of Blood)
    4. 753-774 (daddy issues)
    5. 775-822 (arena)
    6. 823-833 (Team Evil)
    7. 834-863 (Girard's Pyramid)
    8. 864-881 or 864-899 (vampires/end of the dungeon)
    9. 882-936 or 900-936 (big climax)
    10. 937-946 (epilogue)
    THE SCRYING EYE AT THE END OF STRIP #698 WAS ZZ'DTRI'S (SOURCE)

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    elan: dad plz dont kill roy
    tarquin: ok
    Damn it! Now I have to rewrite the script for #917.
    One and the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianSt View Post
    I made this list earlier in the thread, though I have added two additional brakes thanks to fellow playgrounders:

    1. 673-698: Desert shenanigans
    2. 699-709: Team Evil
    3. 710-734: Empire of Blood (part 1)
    4. 735-774: Empire of Blood (part 2)
    5. 775-822: Arena
    6. 823-833: Team Evil
    7. 834-863: Girard's pyramid (outside/top floor)
    8. 864-898: Girard's pyramid (inside)
    9. 899-936: Advanced Escaping
    10. 937-946: Epilogue
    I think this list looks nice.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordae View Post
    The good news is, with the smaller size we probably won't need personal forklifts to move the book around, right?
    Maybe, maybe not. I figure I'd better hit the gym either way since the mail jerk has a habit of leaving packages 'wherever'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar Demonblud View Post
    Maybe, maybe not. I figure I'd better hit the gym either way since the mail jerk has a habit of leaving packages 'wherever'.
    That'll teach you to leave bubbling cauldrons of acid near your front door!

    On-topic, I like ChristianSt's breakdown, in a large part because I don't like to think that 50-strip chapters are the norm.

    The arena chapter... takes after its empress. It's gonna take some specially reinforced binding to keep together a chapter that, by itself, is roughly the size of OtOoPCs.
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    As of 966
    Book # of Online Strips # of Online Pages Xtra Pages Total Book Pages
    DCF
    121
    122.5
    37.5
    160
    NCftPB
    180
    197
    47
    244
    W&XP
    183
    242
    46
    288
    DStP
    188
    226
    46
    272
    BRitF
    274
    318.75
    49.25
    368
    Book 6
    20
    24
    ???
    ???

    48 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.
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    As of 967
    Book # of Online Strips # of Online Pages Xtra Pages Total Book Pages
    DCF
    121
    122.5
    37.5
    160
    NCftPB
    180
    197
    47
    244
    W&XP
    183
    242
    46
    288
    DStP
    188
    226
    46
    272
    BRitF
    274
    318.75
    49.25
    368
    Book 6
    21
    25
    ???
    ???

    47 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.
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    As of 968
    Book # of Online Strips # of Online Pages Xtra Pages Total Book Pages
    DCF
    121
    122.5
    37.5
    160
    NCftPB
    180
    197
    47
    244
    W&XP
    183
    242
    46
    288
    DStP
    188
    226
    46
    272
    BRitF
    274
    318.75
    49.25
    368
    Book 6
    22
    26
    ???
    ???

    46 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.
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    As of 969
    Book # of Online Strips # of Online Pages Xtra Pages Total Book Pages
    DCF
    121
    122.5
    37.5
    160
    NCftPB
    180
    197
    47
    244
    W&XP
    183
    242
    46
    288
    DStP
    188
    226
    46
    272
    BRitF
    274
    318.75
    49.25
    368
    Book 6
    23
    27
    ???
    ???

    45 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.
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    As of 970
    Book # of Online Strips # of Online Pages Xtra Pages Total Book Pages
    DCF
    121
    122.5
    37.5
    160
    NCftPB
    180
    197
    47
    244
    W&XP
    183
    242
    46
    288
    DStP
    188
    226
    46
    272
    BRitF
    274
    318.75
    49.25
    368
    Book 6
    24
    28
    ???
    ???

    44 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.
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    As of 971
    Book # of Online Strips # of Online Pages Xtra Pages Total Book Pages
    DCF
    121
    122.5
    37.5
    160
    NCftPB
    180
    197
    47
    244
    W&XP
    183
    242
    46
    288
    DStP
    188
    226
    46
    272
    BRitF
    274
    318.75
    49.25
    368
    Book 6
    25
    29
    ???
    ???

    43 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.
    Last edited by Porthos; 2014-12-27 at 08:46 PM.
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    Out of curiosity, is anyone able to give the info for the advanced block of BRitF?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxzan Proditor View Post
    Out of curiosity, is anyone able to give the info for the advanced block of BRitF?
    I will. Once I get the blessed things.
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    673-698: Desert shenanigans
    699-709: Team Evil
    710-734: Empire of Blood (part 1)
    735-774: Empire of Blood (part 2)
    775-822: Arena
    823-833: Team Evil
    834-863: Girard's pyramid (outside/top floor)
    864-898: Girard's pyramid (inside)
    899-936: Advanced Escaping
    937-946: Epilogue
    Not a bad guess, but off in a few places. As one of the lucky few who has the book, here are the actual chapters, many of which contain puns in their titles:

    673 - 698 Round 1: Save Room for Desert
    699 - 709 Round 2: Face the Nation
    710 - 741 Round 3: Farther, Sun, and Slaughter
    742 - 774 Round 4: Blood Will Out
    775 - 822 Round 5: Prize Fight
    823 - 833 Round 6: All the Wrong Places
    834 - 866 Round 7: Pyramid Scheme
    867 - 891 Round 8: Life After Death
    892 - 936 Round 9: Obligatory Climactic Battle
    937 - 946 Round 10: Into the Sunset




    There are a total of 11 pages of bonus comics integrated into the story. The bonus comics, like in the books before "Don't Split the Party," are scattered here-and-there to fill in a few things and add some humor. There are no new "mini-story-arcs."

    The special feature "Quoth the Familiar" is 5 pages.
    There's a very old but never-before-seen OotS comic where Durkon "Turns Undead" which is 1 page.
    There a story recap (much like in the other books) done by OotS characters which is 3 pages.
    A single-line page featuring Celia at the very end of the book. (Similar to what we've seen in older books)
    A 1-page preface by "Durkon Thundershield"
    A 1-page forward by John Rogers.
    A 1-page intro by Rich Burlew, plus 11 other pages of author commentary (Chapter 9 got 2 pages.)

    Anything else folks want to know? Someone else can do the characters-by-page-count thing.
    Last edited by 2.5 cats; 2014-12-31 at 09:29 AM.

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    Awesome! Thanks for posting the stats. Those of you with books may want to head over to other threads that need this kind of information (like the character appearance one). Now I'm even more eager to get my book.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 2.5 cats View Post
    There a story recap (much like in the other books) done by OotS characters which is 3 pages.

    (...)

    Anything else folks want to know?
    Is the recap done by various characters? Previous books had only one character do this (Elan, V, Belkar).

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    Wow, some of that really surprises me. The run from 710-774 had many potential round breaks in it, but 741/742 hadn't even made it on my list of possibilities! Even though there is a time shift and a mini establishing shot and everything!

    But the REAL shocks for me were the breaks for Rounds 7-9 (834-936). I did think that the injury might mean a new round (as in NCftPB), although I wasn't sure of it, but I certainly didn't think 866/867 would be the place to start a new round. Still not sure why it is, actually. (shrug) The ways of the Giant are mysterious and unknowable. Unless he explains them in, say, commentaries, of course. :)

    But the biggest one of all, I was 100% DEAD CERTAIN SURE that strip #900 would start the climactic round. So the previous round would end with the cliffhangery explosion in #899 and then there is that nice establishing shot of the crater to pick up. I thought it would give a nice sense of time passing as the explosion itself happened, too. Ah well, my "dead certain sure" in this case was dead certain WRONG. SO WRONG!

    Thanks so much for posting that, 2.5 cats!

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    Is the recap done by various characters? Previous books had only one character do this (Elan, V, Belkar).
    Two characters who "take turns." Probably best to leave it at that.

    Thanks so much for posting that, 2.5 cats!
    You're welcome! I knew I was one of the first folks to get it, but assumed that most of you would have your books within a couple of days. My book arrived 8 days ago and already has been read cover to cover. Hopefully you all will get yours sooner rather than later!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2.5 cats View Post
    Anything else folks want to know? Someone else can do the characters-by-page-count thing.
    Thanks for the 411, 2.5 cats.

    I do have one question since I still haven't gotten my copies yet. How was the bottom space of 841 handled? For the online comic, there was about 1/4th of a page missing and I wondered if something was put there at the bottom of the page (doodle, commentary, Something Else) or if the surrounding pages were elongated/stiched together in some degree.
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    I do have one question since I still haven't gotten my copies yet. How was the bottom space of 841 handled?
    That 3/4 page was expanded to fill the full page. Looking at the page in the book, it's clear that The Giant added a bit of art to the top and the bottom. For example, at the bottom of the online page http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0841.html there's the dead person in front who is cut off just below the eyes. In the book we see almost their entire head. Similarly the windows at the top of the page go up a bit further. There are fatter-than-usual margins at the top and bottom of the book page, though.

    Don't get too excited--the expanded artwork really doesn't convey any new information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2.5 cats View Post
    That 3/4 page was expanded to fill the full page. Looking at the page in the book, it's clear that The Giant added a bit of art to the top and the bottom. For example, at the bottom of the page there's the dead person in front who is cut off just below the eyes. In the book we see almost their entire head. Similarly the windows at the top of the page go up a bit further. There are fatter-than-usual margins on the top and bottom of the page, though.
    He's done stuff like that before (the one half page in this strip was turned into a two page Splash Page, for instance), so that doesn't surprise me. Thanks again, 2.5 cats!

    *thinks about how to handle this*
    *goes back and checks what he did for W&XPs*

    Looks like I just folded it back in to "Online Pages" and upped the page count that way. Sounds about right.

    Therefore, without further ado, and subject to minor adjustment once I get the book in my grubby little hands (For instance, it's still up in the air how I am going to handle the Durkon Turned Undead strip - I really want to see it in context for myself before I make a final decision on it):

    Basic Block

    As of 971
    Book # of Online Strips # of Online Pages Xtra Pages Total Book Pages
    DCF
    121
    122.5
    37.5
    160
    NCftPB
    180
    197
    47
    244
    W&XP
    183
    242
    46
    288
    DStP
    188
    226
    46
    272
    BRitF
    274
    319
    49
    368
    Book 6
    25
    29
    ???
    ???

    43 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.



    Advanced Blocks

    Compilation Books as of 971 and Blood Runs in the Family
    Book Online Strips Online Pages Bonus Strips Chapters Commentary Pages* Other Xtras** Total Pages
    DCF
    121
    122.5
    18
    5
    8.5
    6
    160
    NCftPB
    180
    197
    12
    10
    16
    9
    244
    W&XP
    183
    242
    14
    8
    15.5
    8.5
    288
    DStP
    188
    226
    17
    9
    12.083
    7.917
    272
    BRitF
    274
    319
    17
    10
    14
    8
    368
    Book 6
    25
    29
    ???
    ???
    ???
    ???
    ???

    Print Only Books
    Book Comic Pages Chapters Commentary* Other Xtras** Total Pages
    OtOoPC
    66
    n/a
    2
    4
    72
    SoD
    107
    n/a
    2
    3
    112
    SS&DT
    97.5
    4
    5.175
    5.325
    112

    Kickstarter Release Information (Spoilered)
    Spoiler
    Show
    PDF Comic Pages Cover Page Total Pages
    US
    12
    1
    13
    H&J
    25
    1
    26


    NOTES
    * Commentary includes the Author Commentaries, Forewords, Introductions, and 'In Character' Prefaces
    ** Other Xtras includes, when applicable, the Recap Strips, Cast of Characters Pages, Character Drawings, Blank/Book Information Pages, Promos, and Various Other Miscellanea.
    Last edited by Porthos; 2015-01-01 at 04:09 PM.
    Concluded: The Stick Awards II: Second Edition
    Ongoing: OOTS by Page Count
    Coming Soon: OOTS by Final Post Count II: The Post Counts Always Chart Twice
    Coming Later: The Stick Awards III: The Search for More Votes


    __________________________

    No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife between the shoulder blades will seriously cramp his style - Jhereg Proverb

  25. - Top - End - #85
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    RedWizardGuy

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    Default Re: OOTS By Page Count

    I'm probably happier than I should be that the Advanced block has been filled out. I'm definitely happier than I should be that the .75 is gone.


    Peelee’s Lotsey

  26. - Top - End - #86
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    NinjaGuy

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    Default Re: OOTS By Page Count

    Now that I have BRitF in my hands, and have had a chance to see all of the nitpicky little details myself, I've done some minor reshuffling of the chart for BRitF.

    First and foremost, I shifted one page out of "Bonus Strips" and into "Other Xtras". I gave it a good long thought and decided that Durkon Turns Undead really does belong in "Other Xtras". It's a lot like the promo strip that is attached to NCftPB, and I've been ignoring Rich's 'official' bonus strip count as it was somewhat inconsistent as to what was counting as a bonus strip from book to book. As an author, that's his well-earned prerogative. But as a curator, I want to try to be a bit more consistent on my charts here.

    I did add a bit to the notes section saying that "Other Xtras" can contain Out of Continuity strips. Yeah, yeah I know. Continuity is a real nebulous concept in OotSland. But I gots to draw my lines somewheres.

    Secondly, three other pages that were either 1/2th of a page or 3/4rs of a page were slightly re-worked in the book. We've already covered what happened in 841. However, the last half of 827 was also expanded (as well has having a Bonus Strip inserted into it [which was indeed counted as a Bonus Strip]). One panel was very slightly altered (to reflect what happened in the Bonus Strip) with the last panel greatly expanded to cover the bottom half of the page.

    Also, the last row of panels in 839 was shifted over to the next page with a brand new long panel replacing it. The second page of 839, in conjunction with the shifted panel, was then expanded to cover the whole page.

    In all three of these cases, using prior precedent of reworked pages [mostly from W&XPs], I have counted the reworked page as an "Online Page" and not a "Bonus Strip" or "Other Xtras". I have also added a note reflecting this saying:

    * A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.

    It ain't perfect, but it'll have to do.

    As a result of all of this, the "Online Page Count" for BRitF was raised by one and the "Xtra Pages" in the Basic Block was lowered by one (the "Other Xtra Pages" in the Advanced bloc was a placeholder number until I received the book and ultimately will remain at the number it was previously due to pages shuffling about).

    =========

    Basic Block

    As of 972
    Book # of Online Strips # of Online Pages* Xtra Pages Total Book Pages
    DCF
    121
    122.5
    37.5
    160
    NCftPB
    180
    197
    47
    244
    W&XP
    183
    242
    46
    288
    DStP
    188
    226
    46
    272
    BRitF
    274
    320
    48
    368
    Book 6
    26
    30
    ???
    ???

    42 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.



    Advanced Blocks

    Compilation Books as of 972 and Blood Runs in the Family
    Book Online Strips Online Pages* Bonus Strips Chapters Commentary Pages** Other Xtras*** Total Pages
    DCF
    121
    122.5
    18
    5
    8.5
    6
    160
    NCftPB
    180
    197
    12
    10
    16
    9
    244
    W&XP
    183
    242
    14
    8
    15.5
    8.5
    288
    DStP
    188
    226
    17
    9
    12.083
    7.917
    272
    BRitF
    274
    320
    16
    10
    14
    8
    368
    Book 6
    25
    29
    ???
    ???
    ???
    ???
    ???

    Print Only Books
    Book Comic Pages Chapters Commentary** Other Xtras*** Total Pages
    OtOoPC
    66
    n/a
    2
    4
    72
    SoD
    107
    n/a
    2
    3
    112
    SS&DT
    97.5
    4
    5.175
    5.325
    112

    Kickstarter Release Information (Spoilered)
    Spoiler
    Show
    PDF Comic Pages Cover Page Total Pages
    US
    12
    1
    13
    H&J
    25
    1
    26


    NOTES
    * A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.
    ** Commentary includes the Author Commentaries, Forewords, Introductions, and 'In Character' Prefaces
    *** Other Xtras includes, when applicable, the Recap Strips, Cast of Characters Pages, Character Drawings, Blank/Book Information Pages, Promos, Out of Continuity Bonuses, and Various Other Miscellanea.
    Last edited by Porthos; 2015-01-13 at 12:03 AM.
    Concluded: The Stick Awards II: Second Edition
    Ongoing: OOTS by Page Count
    Coming Soon: OOTS by Final Post Count II: The Post Counts Always Chart Twice
    Coming Later: The Stick Awards III: The Search for More Votes


    __________________________

    No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife between the shoulder blades will seriously cramp his style - Jhereg Proverb

  27. - Top - End - #87
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    RedWizardGuy

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    Default Re: OOTS By Page Count

    Looks great! I think your asterisks may be off for the print-only books block.


    Peelee’s Lotsey

  28. - Top - End - #88
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    NinjaGuy

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    Default Re: OOTS By Page Count

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxzan Proditor View Post
    Looks great! I think your asterisks may be off for the print-only books block.
    Forgot about that. That's what happens when you're reshuffling a buncha things at once. Fixed in last post and on OP.

    Thanks!
    Concluded: The Stick Awards II: Second Edition
    Ongoing: OOTS by Page Count
    Coming Soon: OOTS by Final Post Count II: The Post Counts Always Chart Twice
    Coming Later: The Stick Awards III: The Search for More Votes


    __________________________

    No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife between the shoulder blades will seriously cramp his style - Jhereg Proverb

  29. - Top - End - #89
    Titan in the Playground
     
    NinjaGuy

    Join Date
    Jan 2007

    Default Re: OOTS By Page Count

    As of 973
    Book # of Online Strips # of Online Pages* Xtra Pages Total Book Pages
    DCF
    121
    122.5
    37.5
    160
    NCftPB
    180
    197
    47
    244
    W&XP
    183
    242
    46
    288
    DStP
    188
    226
    46
    272
    BRitF
    274
    320
    48
    368
    Book 6
    27
    31
    ???
    ???

    41 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.
    Concluded: The Stick Awards II: Second Edition
    Ongoing: OOTS by Page Count
    Coming Soon: OOTS by Final Post Count II: The Post Counts Always Chart Twice
    Coming Later: The Stick Awards III: The Search for More Votes


    __________________________

    No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife between the shoulder blades will seriously cramp his style - Jhereg Proverb

  30. - Top - End - #90
    Titan in the Playground
     
    NinjaGuy

    Join Date
    Jan 2007

    Default Re: OOTS By Page Count

    Don't know why I haven't been including it so far, but as of today the OP now contains the Page Count from the Gygax Magazine.

    What I did was threw it in the spoiler block from the KS information and then renamed that section "Other OOTS Comics Yet To Be Compiled".

    No, there is no reason to spoiler the information for Gygax Magazine. Well, actually, yes there is. The Gygax Magazine section looked really stupid sitting by itself. So for cosmetic reasons, I combined it with the Kickstarter releases and changed the title as described above.

    Whenever I get a new issue, I'll update the chart, both in the OP and at the end of the thread.

    Speaking of which:

    Basic Block

    As of 974
    Book # of Online Strips # of Online Pages* Xtra Pages Total Book Pages
    DCF
    121
    122.5
    37.5
    160
    NCftPB
    180
    197
    47
    244
    W&XP
    183
    242
    46
    288
    DStP
    188
    226
    46
    272
    BRitF
    274
    320
    48
    368
    Book 6
    28
    32
    ???
    ???

    40 pages to go until Book 6 is equal to the size of On the Origins of PCs.



    Advanced Blocks

    Compilation Books as of 974 and Blood Runs in the Family
    Book Online Strips Online Pages* Bonus Strips Chapters Commentary Pages** Other Xtras*** Total Pages
    DCF
    121
    122.5
    18
    5
    8.5
    6
    160
    NCftPB
    180
    197
    12
    10
    16
    9
    244
    W&XP
    183
    242
    14
    8
    15.5
    8.5
    288
    DStP
    188
    226
    17
    9
    12.083
    7.917
    272
    BRitF
    274
    320
    16
    10
    14
    8
    368
    Book 6
    28
    32
    ???
    ???
    ???
    ???
    ???

    Print Only Books
    Book Comic Pages Chapters Commentary** Other Xtras*** Total Pages
    OtOoPC
    66
    n/a
    2
    4
    72
    SoD
    107
    n/a
    2
    3
    112
    SS&DT
    97.5
    4
    5.175
    5.325
    112

    Other OOTS Comics Yet To Be Compiled (Kickstarter & Gygax Magazine)
    Spoiler
    Show
    PDF Comic Pages Cover Page Total Pages
    US
    12
    1
    13
    H&J
    25
    1
    26
    Gygax
    5
    n/a
    5


    NOTES
    * A few Online Pages have been resized, reshuffled, and/or had very minor additions made to them. The "Online Page Count" will reflect how the Online Page best maps to a book regardless of any minor "book only" additional changes.
    ** Commentary includes the Author Commentaries, Forewords, Introductions, and 'In Character' Prefaces
    *** Other Xtras includes, when applicable, the Recap Strips, Cast of Characters Pages, Character Drawings, Blank/Book Information Pages, Promos, Out of Continuity Bonuses, and Various Other Miscellanea.
    Last edited by Porthos; 2015-02-02 at 04:57 PM.
    Concluded: The Stick Awards II: Second Edition
    Ongoing: OOTS by Page Count
    Coming Soon: OOTS by Final Post Count II: The Post Counts Always Chart Twice
    Coming Later: The Stick Awards III: The Search for More Votes


    __________________________

    No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife between the shoulder blades will seriously cramp his style - Jhereg Proverb

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