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    Default Re: Dethy Tournament--Heat One in Progress--Still Recruiting!

    Askthepizzaguy is obviously a wolf trying to buddy up with Kale. Kale might be a wolf, but it's more likely that Pizzaguy is trying to come off as "the most reasonable one", get Kale elected, then manipulate Kale into lynching the wrong person, then defend Kale while the village and his fellow wolves lynch Kale, and come out of the entire affair looking perfect.
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    MVP: The entire town.

    We were all in agreement as to the best course of action, which was to lynch Random Person before end of game.

    Ergo, we're all winners.
    Look at him here, trying to ego boost everyone with an option he knows is impossible, just to try to make people like him more and irrationally vote with him.
    Summary: I don't often vote for him, his antics usually make people more fearful than they should be. But here, he's clearly trying to manipulate Town. Lynch Askthepizzaguy.
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    You did that already, and it didn't win the game for you... until you went and voted with Aric_Kale, the MVP of this game.



    Face facts Sapo, you are probably the best player here in terms of skill, but Aric_Kale technically outperformed you this game. Plus, you kind of botched the diplo here at the MVP proceedings by self-nominating. Always a faux pas.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    Aric_Kale technically outperformed you this game.
    I disagree. This game was 100% solved by analysis; at that point, voting don't even matter as long as you vote for the mafioso in the end. And you can't say that it's a judge of better suspicions because we all had the same suspicion. Following Lex with my vote was the correct play and I stand by it.
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    Good game, guys. Sapo, you are just too good for this.
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    I'm not gonna self-vote for the MVP, because all I offered to this game was my scry results and votes. Sapo and atpg had the most analysis, and while AtPG may have screwed up his analysis, he came to the correct conclusion in a way that I could comprehend with the little Werewolf Games knowledge I have. Saposhiente for lynch and askthepizzaguy for MVP...
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    I'm just having a little fun with you, Saposhiente.

    Vote: Saposhiente for MVP. He wants it more and is a skilled analyst, and voted correctly at lynch or lose.

    We still have Lex and Random_person's votes to count.
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    @Kale: I came to the right conclusion! And if you didn't understand what I was saying, why didn't you ask me to clarify?
    Lex, help me out over here.
    @Pizza: I knew you were going for the manipulation! I'm onto you
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    Good game, guys. Sapo, you are just too good for this.
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    Sapo, you seem a little rustled.

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    For the record, it wasn't your tactic that rustled me, it was your tactic's success that did.

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    Good game, guys. Sapo, you are just too good for this.
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    By the time I had fully decided that I had no idea what was going on, Pizza posted his analysis.
    At this point, I don't really care who gets MVP, I had fun.
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    I believe the MVP should go to one of the two who did analysis. By the time I got on, they both had already done theirs, so I wasn't inclined to do my own. Possibly a mistake on my part, and since I was lynch-happy for PizzaGuy's bloodsauce, I followed Saposhiente's over PizzaGuy's. Both had Random Person as a choice, and each other as the possible other. For me, it was a 50/50 chance. And I lost.

    I'll abstain from voting, and let Random_Person make the final decission, unless it ends with a tie. If so, I'll make a decision then.

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    My own reckoning is for Saposhiente. I still dislike Pizza's choice to analyze as though he were innocent - even if I hadn't been mafia, even if I hadn't been his target as a result, I would have misliked that, whereas Sapo's play was solid from a Bayesian perspective all game.
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    Alright, looks to me like it's going to be Sapo. If there's no objections, then we have our second finalist, and Askthepizzaguy will take off his Doctor Whooves mask and be shuffled back into the deck for heat three or four.

    Rolling the dice gives the following players in heat three: TBFProgrammer, Count Dingdong, Penguinator, reaverb, and Studoku Your roles are being sent now. As usual, please post in thread to confirm that you are ready to go
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    I'm ready to go.

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    Can we hold off until Saturday? I'm on choir tour.


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    I wasn't planning on starting until Monday, actually, since then I'll be done with my finals and I'll have the time to attend to the game properly.
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    I'm ready.

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    Spreadsheet analyzer... abandoned.
    Spreadsheet version of full world list... complete.
    Dynamic world-list generator... missing interface.

    Sufficiently ready.
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    I'm ready.

    In addition, it might be good to have a first-in first-out system for heats. I assumed that and there was a chance I could have missed this.

    Also, it might be a good idea to update the title, which is two heats out of date.
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    Thread titles can't be changed after a certain amount of time, 30 days I think.

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    A moderator can change thread titles on the other boards I frequent. Wonder if that's possible here.

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    I think it has something to do with the forum software. I doubt that the mods have control over it. If you want, you can PM Rawhide (or another mod) and ask.

    Also, posting interest in playing in this.

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    Moderators can chance the title of any thread, always.

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    It looks like they changed the thread title thing in the forum update. I was just so used to not being able to change it I didn't think to try.
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    Okay, well, I have a meeting all weekend in a world without internet, so I guess Monday? Sorry.


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    No problem. I don't like to do internet things over the weekend anyways if I can avoid it. Anyways, if we're all present and accounted for, we'll begin:

    Day One begins now and will last for 72 hours, or until someone reaches three votes. If there is any problem with this, let me know. I know there's been a bit of delay since I sent the roles out.

    Also, a question was sent to me about measures to prevent the mafia from getting information, and their legality within the rules. I'm going to go ahead and say that I personally find it to be a bit against the spirit of the game to try to prevent mafia from making their claim. It's their one big strategic move, and I think they should be allowed to win or lose based on how well they play their false claim, and not because they were denied the chance to make it completely. A few limitations to play around are fine; Tom's method works nicely by giving the mafia room to strategize without giving them full control of what they say. I'm just going to say consider the spirit of the game and try to win through deduction and analysis if you can, but I'm not going to outright ban anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom the Mime View Post
    The scry is broken up into 2 parts - a who and a what. In the past to prevent mafia from making a clever claim going last people have revealed scries piecewise. Everyone reveals their first bit of information and then after that they reveal the second bit of info in reverse order (12345-54321). Stops each person from having too much data to make a full scry claim based on in-depth analysis. If mafia reveals first, they have full info for the last part of their scry claim but none for the first part. If they reveal last (5) they have one piece of information from everyone else to make theri full claim and that's it.
    Just reminding everybody of Tom's method, since it's been a while. I do want to use this.

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    Oh, and for future reference, can we refer to Innocent and Guilty as "I" and "G"? The names are actually arbitrary, since there are just as many Insane cops as Sane cops and Paranoid cops as Innocent cops, but using the full words is confusing because they state verdicts.

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    I, too, am in support of Tom's method.

    I, Penguinator scried someone as Innocent.

    I don't think saying "I" or "G" would help me more than saying "innocent" or "guilty..."

    Either way, I am not the Paranoid Cop.
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    TBFProgrammer scried Count DingDong as ???

    A slight addendum to Tom's strategy as quoted: while proclaiming the blindlingly obvious is fine (x can't be paranoid/naive), please do not post analysis until all results are in (unless someone is MIA and no extension/replacement is forthcoming). The mafioso has to do their primary analysis work in this phase and town can't generally get much mileage from analysis until everything has been posted.
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    Count Dingdong scried ??? as Guilty. I believe the last person we're waiting on is Studoku, then?

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    So as the fifth player to reveal, I just reveal my entire claim?

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