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    Barbarian in the Playground
     
    AssassinGuy

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    Default Dragonfire Adept Build

    I'm looking to make a whisper gnome (movement 30') dragonfire adept focusing on knowledge and diplomacy.

    Going dragonborn as soon as DM will allow

    Stats to be rolled

    Feats
    1) trivial knowledge
    Flaw) open minded
    Flaw) ability focus (breath weapon)
    3) entangling exhalation
    6) leadership
    9) power surge
    12)
    15)
    18)

    Invocations
    1) draconic knowledge
    3) beguiling influence
    6) humanoid shape

    Feel free to help me fill in the blanks.
    I'll edit this as I see fit. I appreciate the input.
    Last edited by SliceandDiceKid; 2014-04-10 at 01:46 PM.

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    Ogre in the Playground
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    smile Re: Dragonfire Adept Build

    Some metabreath feats could be nice. Quicken your Dragonborn breath the same round you do your DFA breath. Makes for some nice first rounds.

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    Dwarf in the Playground
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    Default Re: Dragonfire Adept Build

    Personally, I feel no Dragonfire Adept is complete without the following: Entangling Exhalation, Draconic Flight, Flyby Attack, and Chilling Fog.

    Flying around breathing destruction on things that can't get away is fun.

    Going the Knowledge focused route you may want to grab an appropriate Knowledge Devotion for your campaign, but I'm not sure where you'd fit it in, looks like it would come online pretty late.
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    AssassinGuy

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    Default Re: Dragonfire Adept Build

    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel7284 View Post
    Some metabreath feats could be nice. Quicken your Dragonborn breath the same round you do your DFA breath. Makes for some nice first rounds.
    Bahaha I love this!

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    AssassinGuy

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    Default Re: Dragonfire Adept Build

    Quote Originally Posted by Tryxx View Post
    Personally, I feel no Dragonfire Adept is complete without the following: Entangling Exhalation, Draconic Flight, Flyby Attack, and Chilling Fog.

    Flying around breathing destruction on things that can't get away is fun.

    Going the Knowledge focused route you may want to grab an appropriate Knowledge Devotion for your campaign, but I'm not sure where you'd fit it in, looks like it would come online pretty late.
    I'll be gaining flight through humanoid shape

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    SamuraiGuy

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    Default Re: Dragonfire Adept Build

    I'd take Entangling Exhalation at level 1. It's just that good.
    This ... is my signature finishing move!

    "It's never good when you make a fiend cringe" - MadGrady

    According to some online quiz, I'm a 6th level TN Wizard. They didn't give me full XP for all the monsters I've defeated while daydreaming.
    http://easydamus.com/character.html

    I am a Ranger Archetype: Gleaming Warden (thx to Ninja Prawn)

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    AssassinGuy

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    Default Re: Dragonfire Adept Build

    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    I'd take Entangling Exhalation at level 1. It's just that good.
    I'm aware. And under normal circumstances I would. But my DFA is a nerd who has been researching dragons and discovers a potential for draconic abilities. So while my tendency is to optimize, I'm putting it off a few levels for role playing value.

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    SamuraiGuy

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    Default Re: Dragonfire Adept Build

    Quote Originally Posted by SliceandDiceKid View Post
    I'm aware. And under normal circumstances I would. But my DFA is a nerd who has been researching dragons and discovers a potential for draconic abilities. So while my tendency is to optimize, I'm putting it off a few levels for role playing value.
    Never will I criticize putting character concept ahead of optimization. Especially for the first 2 levels
    This ... is my signature finishing move!

    "It's never good when you make a fiend cringe" - MadGrady

    According to some online quiz, I'm a 6th level TN Wizard. They didn't give me full XP for all the monsters I've defeated while daydreaming.
    http://easydamus.com/character.html

    I am a Ranger Archetype: Gleaming Warden (thx to Ninja Prawn)

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    AssassinGuy

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    Default Re: Dragonfire Adept Build

    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    Never will I criticize putting character concept ahead of optimization. Especially for the first 2 levels
    I played a DFA to level 4 previously after my rogue died. Everyone else was a few levels ahead of me, but entangling ex made me the MVP of the group.

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    Pixie in the Playground
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    Default Re: Dragonfire Adept Build

    You should take some metabreath feats too, since you can qualify due to your Dragonborn breath weapon. Also, by RAW you can apply the Metabreath Feat to your DFA breath weapon, as it never stated that you can only apply it to a breath weapon with a cooldown with a duration of rounds.

    Power Surge from Dr313 is pretty nice too, and has the added bonus of being able to give your DFA breath weapon a cooldown, so Metabreath Feats can be applied to it without the iffyness of the option above.
    Last edited by tri; 2014-04-10 at 10:22 AM.

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    MindFlayer

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    Default Re: Dragonfire Adept Build

    You prolly won't be making a lot of attack rolls but if you want to have fun some natural attacks from Humanoid Shape you could roll with some Knowledge Devotion and Collector of Stories. You're looking at base of 11+ranks+int+reroll. This could help make up for your low BAB if you wanted to go that route even if you lacked ranks in some knowledges.

    Blood~

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    AssassinGuy

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    Default Re: Dragonfire Adept Build

    This is a beautiful combo. The check is already at 16 before the roll.

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