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Thread: Factotum+Able learner=Redundant?
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2014-04-11, 01:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Factotum+Able learner=Redundant?
Why is it I keep seeing Able Learner as a recommended feat for Factotums?
My copy of Dungeonscape says in the text that Factotums treat all skills as class skills. Able Learner does the same thing.
Am I missing an errata or something?I am a CN Human Wizard (5th Level)
STR 8; DEX 10; CON 10; INT 15; WIS 10; CHA 9
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2014-04-11, 01:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Factotum+Able learner=Redundant?
What you're missing is multiclassing.
Last edited by Pluto!; 2014-04-11 at 01:54 AM.
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2014-04-11, 02:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Factotum+Able learner=Redundant?
Ah; so the intent is to keep the Factotum's ability while dipping or cross-classing. Makes sense then.
I am a CN Human Wizard (5th Level)
STR 8; DEX 10; CON 10; INT 15; WIS 10; CHA 9
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2014-04-11, 02:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Factotum+Able learner=Redundant?
Able Learner is also required for Chameleon, which is often recommended as a Factotum PRC.
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2014-04-11, 08:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Factotum+Able learner=Redundant?
Able Learner also does not make all skills class skills, but rather merely changes the cost to buy a rank in a skill to the usual 1:1 ratio as if it were a class skill. So, if you had a wizard 1 with Able Learner, he could buy up appraise to 2 ranks for the cost of 2 skill points, but he's still at the cross-class skill rank cap rather than the usual class rank cap.
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2014-04-11, 08:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Factotum+Able learner=Redundant?
Except that with a single level in Factotum, you get every skill as a class skill and so later when you multiclass the cross-class skill rank cap is that of a class skill, not a cross-class skill, even if they cost 2 points per rank. That combined with Able Learner really does make every skill act as a class skill.
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2014-04-11, 09:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Factotum+Able learner=Redundant?
The main reason to take Able learner on a Factotum is for Chameleon, an amazing Prc that synergies really well in both fluff and mechanics.
Also, multiclassing. Some factotum builds take levels in Swashbuckler or warblade to get int to even MORE stuff.
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2014-04-11, 09:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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