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    I figured Elan knew she was a demon from one of the following:
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    I'd guess that no one in the Order has terribly high ranks in Knowledge (the planes), so they'd have more trouble identifying fiends than we would.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxzan Proditor View Post
    I'd guess that no one in the Order has terribly high ranks in Knowledge (the planes), so they'd have more trouble identifying fiends than we would.
    Even so, ive seen a distressingly compelling argument that says that even if they have no ranks in Knowledge (the Planes), there is a moderate chance for male players to recognize creatures like succubi on sight, because the textbooks for acquiring that information have pictures. Ill... just let that comment sit, and go hide in the corner. I didn't even make this up, it was in a Forgotten Realms book I read.

    I feel dirty for even bringing it up, but it makes so much sense that it makes me sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keltest View Post
    Sabine is a succubus, quite visibly so. And quite frankly, I always thought that joke was a bit of a stretch.
    It isn't even a running joke. When they first fought her, Haley didn't know whether she was a demon or a devil and which metal hurt her. After their first battle, that confusion is never brought up (by the order) again. So there is no reason to think they didn't simply look it up.

    Additionally, the joke was NEVER that they weren't sure whether she were a Succubus or an Erinyes, it was that they couldn't remember whether Succubi were considered demons or devils (since it keeps changing between editions!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by FujinAkari View Post
    It isn't even a running joke. When they first fought her, Haley didn't know whether she was a demon or a devil and which metal hurt her. After their first battle, that confusion is never brought up (by the order) again. So there is no reason to think they didn't simply look it up.

    Additionally, the joke was NEVER that they weren't sure whether she were a Succubus or an Erinyes, it was that they couldn't remember whether Succubi were considered demons or devils (since it keeps changing between editions!)
    Haley never says it out loud, but several times, if you look at the fletchings of her arrows, one is cold iron and one is silver whenever she shoots or stabs Sabine.

    That said, suddenly the joke does make a bit more sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FujinAkari View Post
    ,it was that they couldn't remember whether Succubi were considered demons or devils (since it keeps changing between editions!)
    I did not know this. Now the joke makes more sense to me. Thanks!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Keltest View Post
    Haley never says it out loud, but several times, if you look at the fletchings of her arrows, one is cold iron and one is silver whenever she shoots or stabs Sabine.

    That said, suddenly the joke does make a bit more sense.
    Specifically, here, which is the last time Haley actually meets Sabine. Haley was busy letting pigeons perch on her during the Bleedingham fight, Sabine doesn't come down to fight during the battle on top of the pyramid, and then Sabine gets banished at the beginning of the battle in the pyramid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodin View Post
    Specifically, here, which is the last time Haley actually meets Sabine. Haley was busy letting pigeons perch on her during the Bleedingham fight, Sabine doesn't come down to fight during the battle on top of the pyramid, and then Sabine gets banished at the beginning of the battle in the pyramid.
    Okay, so Elan could have figured out what Sabine was in the intervening time between 398 and when they fought the Linear Guild in Bleedinghan.


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    Even though I'm sure it was a deliberate callback, they're spaced out enough that I only just now realized the parallels between Strip 795 and Strip 114

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    I never noticed that the logo got revamped in Comic 251, with different font and a fancy new trademark symbol next to the comic's name.

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    I just noticed the Twitter feed is only for the forums.
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    I guess this must have been noticed and discussed already, but I only just noticed in #953 that spirit Durkula does not have fangs, does not look like a vampire. Does that mean Durkula is not in fact a vampire?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizzer View Post
    I guess this must have been noticed and discussed already, but I only just noticed in #953 that spirit Durkula does not have fangs, does not look like a vampire. Does that mean Durkula is not in fact a vampire?
    Who or what is Durkula?

    Do you mean Spirit Durkon or HTOH? I am not trying to be smart, I honestly have no idea which one you're referring too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FujinAkari View Post
    Who or what is Durkula?

    Do you mean Spirit Durkon or HTOH? I am not trying to be smart, I honestly have no idea which one you're referring too.
    The grey semi-transparent evil spirit in Durkon's mind. He actually looks more like Real Durkon than the vampire body they co-inhabit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FujinAkari View Post
    Who or what is Durkula?

    Do you mean Spirit Durkon or HTOH? I am not trying to be smart, I honestly have no idea which one you're referring too.
    What is HTOH?

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    Belkar's question in the last panel of #919 “Where the hell have you been?” is a dark mirror of the very old #10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lazydemon View Post
    What is HTOH?
    HTOH is the High Priest of Hel, the evil spirit that has possessed Durkon.

    Durkula is slang for vampirised Durkon. It was the evil spirit I meant when I referred to spirit Durkula. It seems odd to me that it doesn't have fangs, even in spirit form (or red eyes for that matter, but grey red eyes would be a bit of a stretch). That's why I wonder if it is a vampire spirit after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizzer View Post
    HTOH is the High Priest of Hel, the evil spirit that has possessed Durkon.
    ... Probably a stupid question but why HTOH and not HPOH ?
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    Just noticed that Sally from 951 first appears in 935.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smuchmuch View Post
    ... Probably a stupid question but why HTOH and not HPOH ?
    More people do call him HPOH. This is the first time I've heard him called HTOH.

    Typo, or does the T stand for something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ORione View Post
    More people do call him HPOH. This is the first time I've heard him called HTOH.

    Typo, or does the T stand for something?
    I'm wondering about this too.

    I tend to just call him "the High Priest of Hel".


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    Quote Originally Posted by ORione View Post
    More people do call him HPOH. This is the first time I've heard him called HTOH.

    Typo, or does the T stand for something?
    Can't speak for FujinAkari, but myself, I blame copy&paste (whether physical or mental) ;)

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    Eugene's date in #39, is the same girl we see in #486.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizzer View Post
    HTOH is the High Priest of Hel, the evil spirit that has possessed Durkon.

    Durkula is slang for vampirised Durkon. It was the evil spirit I meant when I referred to spirit Durkula. It seems odd to me that it doesn't have fangs, even in spirit form (or red eyes for that matter, but grey red eyes would be a bit of a stretch). That's why I wonder if it is a vampire spirit after all.
    He's not a vampire spirit - he's a negative energy spirit who controls a vampirised dwarven body (and keeps its original owner prisoner, but you already knew that).
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    Rereading this strip, I just noticed that what I thought was just another Thor-Joke, is actually Hel plotting to distract Thor and get Durkon vamped. The plan had already started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seto View Post
    Rereading this strip, I just noticed that what I thought was just another Thor-Joke, is actually Hel plotting to distract Thor and get Durkon vamped. The plan had already started.

    *sob* : Do you see how smoothly he worked it into the narrative ? That's... That's beautiful !
    I think that all of the strips with Hel in them look a lot more serious now that we know that she's not just a comedy bit, this strip especially.


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    In 294, when Belkar is revealed, both Durkon and Elan say loudly "Belkar?!"
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    In 428, the group is having their hair/capes/necklaces blown in the wind of Xykon's dragon.
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    I am sure at least one other noticed this but: When viewing the comics the little circle with Roy in it the line on the right side of it does not match up.

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