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    Quote Originally Posted by b_jonas View Post
    ChristianST: if you include non-name insults in the table that Belkar says in all lower case, such as “honey”, could you at least show them in all lower case in the table? Thanks.
    I wanted to do update the OP tomorrow and will try how it looks. Only thing I don't like about it, if I do that, I don't see any reason to write ALL-CAPS stuff not in all caps.

    But I think I'm just going to add both (i.e. doing the exact same capitalization as in the comic) and if given add the articles used.


    EDIT: OP Updated. For now I have adopted to in-comic spelling as good as possible (including capitalization). I also "officially" included non-character stuff.
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    New one, courtesy of the most recent strip: "Dead-for-brains".


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxzan Proditor View Post
    New one, courtesy of the most recent strip: "Dead-for-brains".
    Added. Though after this comic I honestly ponder whether it would be better to say that he addresses Vampire!Durkon/HPoH and not Durkon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianSt View Post
    Added. Though after this comic I honestly ponder whether it would be better to say that he addresses Vampire!Durkon/HPoH and not Durkon.
    That's a good point. Belkar believes that the vampire is not Durkon, so I think it would make sense to have him addressing the High Priest of Hel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxzan Proditor View Post
    That's a good point. Belkar believes that the vampire is not Durkon, so I think it would make sense to have him addressing the High Priest of Hel.
    Everyone is talking to the HPOH at this point, but Belkar is a special case because he knows its not-Durkon and is specifically calling out the imposter as he's addressing the imposter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reddish Mage View Post
    Everyone is talking to the HPOH at this point, but Belkar is a special case because he knows its not-Durkon and is specifically calling out the imposter as he's addressing the imposter.
    That's my point. Belkar knows it's not Durkon, and thinks of him as such. The Order, on the other hand, believes they are addressing Durkon.


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    http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0042.html second panel.
    Belkar calls the rest of the order "giant lumbering oafs".
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsteronIronhoof View Post
    http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0042.html second panel.
    Belkar calls the rest of the order "giant lumbering oafs".
    That's more of a simple insult than a nickname, though.
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    So there is a line between that and "all of the other mindless drones"? I wonder where it is ;)

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    • I will collect any reference from Belkar to anyone/anything else (including himself and non-character stuff like Evil Father Patrol or Happy Fun Sunshine Land - because it is way too awesome not to list )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domino Quartz View Post
    That's more of a simple insult than a nickname, though.
    As rodneyAnonymous pointed out I think it is better to draw no lines. I don't think there is a hard set of rules that we can really agree what is a name or not. So imo instead of adding countless discussion we just collect awesome stuff, and let the reader figure out whether it counts as name or not

    On the Durkon/HPoH front: I'm still not exactly sure myself, but since I have counted two peoples who think a change is useful (at least I understood it that way), I'm changing that. But nothing is set in stone, so if someone wants to disagree, feel free to say something.

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    Default Re: "What Characters should really be called" by Ali S. Fakenamington

    Oh, I thought per OOTS #957 (Takes One to Know One), we would be discussing Durkon's proposal for a new title for this thread: "Spontaneous nicknames and olfactory insults from Belkar".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Gamera View Post
    Oh, I thought per OOTS #957 (Takes One to Know One), we would be discussing Durkon's proposal for a new title for this thread: "Spontaneous nicknames and olfactory insults from Belkar".
    Mind = blown.


    That hasn't crossed my mind in the slightest way, but it just seems brilliant to use an in-comic phrase if available! So this is done!

    (But I'm not adding "olfactory insults" because I don't see a reason to collect those - but feel free to start a thread yourself )
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    I was wondering what had happened to the title.

    Should we capitalize the "n" at the beginning of "nicknames".


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxzan Proditor View Post
    I was wondering what had happened to the title.

    Should we capitalize the "n" at the beginning of "nicknames".
    If we use the phrase from the comic (which I really like), I think we should also use the given capitalization. (Otherwise I would most likely capitalize it myself)

    So unless the Giant's changes the strip, I'm not planning on changing it again

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianSt View Post
    If we use the phrase from the comic (which I really like), I think we should also use the given capitalization. (Otherwise I would most likely capitalize it myself)

    So unless the Giant's changes the strip, I'm not planning on changing it again
    I see. I do like the phrase, so I don't really mind using it's capitalization.


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    Bump -- it seems editing posts is not enough to bump a thread. Not sure why not.
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    Beetle Bailey seems to have been missed.
    Also, Mom.
    And... Nuts-er?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quild View Post
    Beetle Bailey seems to have been missed.
    Also, Mom.
    And... Nuts-er?

    I really love this recollection.
    Nuts-er definitely isn't a nickname, its a commentary of the fact that he already considers Elan to be a bit off. "nuts" in this case is being used like crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dtilque View Post
    Bump -- it seems editing posts is not enough to bump a thread. Not sure why not.
    My thought while reading 989: "Count No-neckula is a nice nickname for the spontaneous nicknames thread. I sure will update it after reading the strip!"
    *5 days later*: I get a message that someone posted in this thread and think: "Mh, I guess my attention span sometimes is as bad as Elan's..."

    Quote Originally Posted by Keltest View Post
    Nuts-er definitely isn't a nickname, its a commentary of the fact that he already considers Elan to be a bit off. "nuts" in this case is being used like crazy.
    Yeah, unless I see other peoples who think that "Nuts-er" should be included I will not do so. Especially with the question mark and all it is imo clear that "nuts" is being used an adjective and "nuts-er" as the comparative to it. (Kinda like saying "Have you gone crazy? crazier??")

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    Indeed Belkar also use "nuts-est" about Roy. English is not my mother tongue, I wasn't sure it was used as a superlative :D
    *makes a "lame excuse check"*

    I wasn't really sure about this one, I'm not in favor of inclusion either :D.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianSt View Post
    Yeah, unless I see other peoples who think that "Nuts-er" should be included I will not do so. Especially with the question mark and all it is imo clear that "nuts" is being used an adjective and "nuts-er" as the comparative to it. (Kinda like saying "Have you gone crazy? crazier??")
    On the other hand from that same strip he refers to Roy as 'bigfoot' which would seem to be a spontaneous nicknames.

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    I do wonder why there's question marks after the entry for "rod of lordly might". Surely that's a reference to Belkar's.. er ... Trouser Titan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dtilque View Post
    I do wonder why there's question marks after the entry for "rod of lordly might". Surely that's a reference to Belkar's.. er ... Trouser Titan.
    Because it is kinda awkward to write something else into that field At least I know I don't want to write "Trouser Titan" because, well that is established as belonging to Roy .

    Maybe it would be better to write something else, but I have no good Idea. If you have some good suggestion I'm up for it, but the only alternative I have would be similar strings like "###" or "..." (but somehow "..." messes with sorting by Addressee, so that imo isn't an useful option anyway).

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlawedParadigm View Post
    Also, are we counting KS backer material/other outside sources? Because if so I think we have Snips, Snails, and Dragon-Tales and Haleo and Julean to dig through too (although the latter doesn't star Belkar _as_ Belkar...)
    I already have entries from Uncivil Servant and OtOoPCs, so I see no reason to exclude SSaDT or Haleo and Julean. As for whether the Stick Tales versions of Belkar qualify as Belkar is a good question. I would lean on the side of inclusion (because these characters are rather near their original).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianSt View Post
    As for whether the Stick Tales versions of Belkar qualify as Belkar is a good question. I would lean on the side of inclusion (because these characters are rather near their original).
    Basically yes I'd say. When Fourth Wall Breaking the characters often act like actors acting out roles, so why not include the characters acting out roles in the story.

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    Well, if you're going to count "doing something" as well, then some names include, "Freezing My Considerable Assets Off", "Sweating Worse Than A Logger At Druidcon", and "Harvesting His Kidneys", all of which are colorful metaphors.
    Mh, I don't really see much of any metaphors going on there. The only thing that would somewhat fit would be the "freezing my considerable assets off", though I'm not sure what it should reference.
    I think it is pretty clear that “my considerable assets” refers to Belkar’s rod of lordly might.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qaanol View Post
    I think it is pretty clear that “my considerable assets” refers to Belkar’s rod of lordly might.
    Really? I thought it was a reference to his rump. As in, "freezing my a** off."
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