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    Default Re: League of Legends LIX: Ice Cream, Stamps, and Lorn

    You still have "LVIII: URFworld" at the top of your post.
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    Default Re: League of Legends LIX: Ice Cream, Stamps, and Lorn

    Post for the check mark.

    Also, I hate ranked -_-
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    Default Re: League of Legends LIX: Ice Cream, Stamps, and Lorn

    Quote Originally Posted by Reinboom View Post
    You still have "LVIII: URFworld" at the top of your post.
    Let's just leave it, see how long it lasts.


    Also, general question for the thread. I generally play AD carries that are pretty safe or at least mobile: Cait and Trist are probably my two best. I've recently been trying to learn Twitch and getting my butt kicked. I understand in theory that if I can farm well and get to a point where I'm strong, I have the ability to sneak around and ambush people, but I feel like I'm not understanding how to do his aggression right. As best I understand my own problems, they are

    1. I don't know how to do good trades in lane. I feel like if I stealth up for a good opener, I'm vulnerable to all the enemy ADC skills and everything the support can throw at me. But if I save my stealth to get out, my trades are just weaker than most other ADs due to short range and less burst.
    2. I feel like I'm doing something wrong in my midgame positioning. I've watched several pro games where somebody with just a BoRK stealthed on top of someone and then opened up with everything for a kill. I try to do the same thing and end up doing maybe 2/3 of someone's hp before they get away, which often results in me getting killed a bit later because I've used all my stuff but didn't get the kill that would allow the team to push for an advantage.

    Basically, I have an understanding that the champ rewards aggressive plays, but I'm doing something wrong in making them and I'm not sure what.
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    Default Re: League of Legends LIX: Ice Cream, Stamps, and Lorn

    Though nobody voted for this title, I like it.
    Quote Originally Posted by jamieth View Post
    ...though Talla does her best to sound objective and impartial, it doesn't cover stuff like "ask a 9-year-old to tank for the party."
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    Default Re: League of Legends LIX: Ice Cream, Stamps, and Lorn

    Quote Originally Posted by Antonok View Post
    Post for the check mark.

    Also, I hate ranked -_-
    I ran into what I call the 'Law of Declared Smurfs' last night.

    That is, if anybody (at ANY rank or level) in pre-game chat declares themselves to be a smurf, it is 100% guaranteed that they will suck.

    Coupled nicely with the guy that I let support because he said he 'mained support', and at the end of the game looked him up, and he has a 31% win rate on Thresh.

    I'm not even kidding - 31% win rate on Thresh. How is that even possible?
    Last edited by Olinser; 2014-06-02 at 11:48 AM.

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    Let's just leave it, see how long it lasts.


    Also, general question for the thread. I generally play AD carries that are pretty safe or at least mobile: Cait and Trist are probably my two best. I've recently been trying to learn Twitch and getting my butt kicked. I understand in theory that if I can farm well and get to a point where I'm strong, I have the ability to sneak around and ambush people, but I feel like I'm not understanding how to do his aggression right. As best I understand my own problems, they are

    1. I don't know how to do good trades in lane. I feel like if I stealth up for a good opener, I'm vulnerable to all the enemy ADC skills and everything the support can throw at me. But if I save my stealth to get out, my trades are just weaker than most other ADs due to short range and less burst.
    2. I feel like I'm doing something wrong in my midgame positioning. I've watched several pro games where somebody with just a BoRK stealthed on top of someone and then opened up with everything for a kill. I try to do the same thing and end up doing maybe 2/3 of someone's hp before they get away, which often results in me getting killed a bit later because I've used all my stuff but didn't get the kill that would allow the team to push for an advantage.

    Basically, I have an understanding that the champ rewards aggressive plays, but I'm doing something wrong in making them and I'm not sure what.
    I'm only a mediocre Twitch player, but he's one of my favored ADCs along with Sivir, so here's the advice I can give.

    1. Generally I initiate small trades in lane with only a Venom Cask into Autos into an Expunge when they retreat out of auto-range. You can either initiate this on your own if you feel like you have sufficiently good positioning, or if your support lands something like a Death Sentence or Howling Gale or Aqua Prison in lane. Stealth is something I generally save for a planned all-in, like an approaching jungler gank or Sona Ult or Thresh/Leona/Ali jumping directly into their face (after previously indicating they wish to do so).

    2. I don't know how good your micro is, but something like this might just fall down to better execution. If the enemy is trying to run away then you really need to be able to have good orbwalking to consistently put yourself ahead of their escape while still outputting damage. Standing still and relying just on sheer burst is going to lose you the kill unless you're /really/ far ahead. I also generally don't use Twitch Ult for solo-ambushes unless I desperately need the range to close out the kill. I feel like Rat-a-tat-tat is always worth holding on to just for the teamfight power it gives you.

    @^: Thresh can stomp soloqueue off of Death Sentence alone, but a lot of his more intricate play (especially involving the lantern) that makes him so powerful requires communication or very good instincts on the part of the Thresh and his teammates. Especially with the nerfs to his damage and tankiness, Thresh is significantly less effective in soloqueue than teamplay, doubly so if you can't Death Sentences.

    He's one of those champions who's "OP" because he sees a lot of pro play and because we've all been against that Thresh who landed every hook and solo-carried his game, but he has a much higher skill floor than Leona or Braum and a bunch of use cases that aren't immediately obvious to those in lower brackets.
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    I ran into what I call the 'Law of Declared Smurfs' last night.

    That is, if anybody (at ANY rank or level) in pre-game chat declares themselves to be a smurf, it is 100% guaranteed that they will suck.

    Coupled nicely with the guy that I let support because he said he 'mained support', and at the end of the game looked him up, and he has a 31% win rate on Thresh.

    I'm not even kidding - 31% win rate on Thresh. How is that even possible?
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    There were three votes for it, unless I misread?
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    There were three votes for it, unless I misread?
    I suspect the comment is aimed at my reordering of the title? The original suggestion was "Ice Cream, Lorn, and Stamps," which works alphabetically but seems to bury the punchline.

    It's kind of like how the original "Loss and Ire" title votes were for "A Song of Ire and Flame" instead.

    But yeah, everyone hates ranked. It's why I put off my provisional matches as long as possible.

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    There were three votes for it, unless I misread?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivellius View Post
    I suspect the comment is aimed at my reordering of the title? The original suggestion was "Ice Cream, Lorn, and Stamps," which works alphabetically but seems to bury the punchline.

    It's kind of like how the original "Loss and Ire" title votes were for "A Song of Ire and Flame" instead.

    But yeah, everyone hates ranked. It's why I put off my provisional matches as long as possible.
    Actually I just missed all mention of it until the new thread went up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivellius View Post
    I suspect the comment is aimed at my reordering of the title? The original suggestion was "Ice Cream, Lorn, and Stamps," which works alphabetically but seems to bury the punchline.

    It's kind of like how the original "Loss and Ire" title votes were for "A Song of Ire and Flame" instead.

    But yeah, everyone hates ranked. It's why I put off my provisional matches as long as possible.
    Ah, I'd missed that.
    Also, on the subject of ranked; are the summoner icon/skin/etc. rewards rewarded for every season of ranked?
    I've been trying to decide if I should try it yet(I do, admittedly, need a few runes, one red, yellow, and three quintessences[I have one empty slot, but my current two are tier 1 ones], but I can't imagine that they would make too much of an impact)
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    1. I don't know how to do good trades in lane. I feel like if I stealth up for a good opener, I'm vulnerable to all the enemy ADC skills and everything the support can throw at me.
    If you're vulnerable to everything from both the ADC and support, you're either positioning flatout wrong or not waiting on your support to initiate the level of aggression you're trying to do. The first is solved by stop doing that; the second, by learning when your support wants to do that level of aggression and following his lead better.

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    But if I save my stealth to get out, my trades are just weaker than most other ADs due to short range and less burst.
    The good twitches I've seen tended to avoid trades, and go for all-ins at strategic moments, where Twitch's burst is actually higher than most ADCs, due to how Expunge works with his kit(and that all his burst is tied up in that one skill).

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    2. I feel like I'm doing something wrong in my midgame positioning. I've watched several pro games where somebody with just a BoRK stealthed on top of someone and then opened up with everything for a kill. I try to do the same thing and end up doing maybe 2/3 of someone's hp before they get away, which often results in me getting killed a bit later because I've used all my stuff but didn't get the kill that would allow the team to push for an advantage.
    #assassinproblems

    The challenge with watching LCS-level play is that you gotta realize, not only do they "know their burst", but they also farm better than you. Completing BoRK 2 minutes earlier opens up kill opportunities that I'm just not capable of taking because I'd be sitting on Cutlass+2dagger.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anarion View Post
    Basically, I have an understanding that the champ rewards aggressive plays, but I'm doing something wrong in making them and I'm not sure what.
    He actually doesn't reward generally aggressive play like...Caitlyn would. He rewards *TIMED* aggression very well, though. As in, its less about how frequently you trade and more about the fact that they're probably dead or backing every time you do find a good trade opportunity.
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    If you're vulnerable to everything from both the ADC and support, you're either positioning flatout wrong or not waiting on your support to initiate the level of aggression you're trying to do. The first is solved by stop doing that; the second, by learning when your support wants to do that level of aggression and following his lead better.



    The good twitches I've seen tended to avoid trades, and go for all-ins at strategic moments, where Twitch's burst is actually higher than most ADCs, due to how Expunge works with his kit(and that all his burst is tied up in that one skill).



    #assassinproblems

    The challenge with watching LCS-level play is that you gotta realize, not only do they "know their burst", but they also farm better than you. Completing BoRK 2 minutes earlier opens up kill opportunities that I'm just not capable of taking because I'd be sitting on Cutlass+2dagger.



    He actually doesn't reward generally aggressive play like...Caitlyn would. He rewards *TIMED* aggression very well, though. As in, its less about how frequently you trade and more about the fact that they're probably dead or backing every time you do find a good trade opportunity.
    Also the fact that Twitch relies rather heavily on having his team peel for him - which may be more or less likely depending on your ELO bracket.

    Twitch is EXTREMELY vulnerable to bruisers with a gap closer - his team has to be smart and quick enough to keep them off him.
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    I ran into what I call the 'Law of Declared Smurfs' last night.

    That is, if anybody (at ANY rank or level) in pre-game chat declares themselves to be a smurf, it is 100% guaranteed that they will suck.

    Coupled nicely with the guy that I let support because he said he 'mained support', and at the end of the game looked him up, and he has a 31% win rate on Thresh.

    I'm not even kidding - 31% win rate on Thresh. How is that even possible?
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    Interestingly enough, title honoring Lix won 5 to 4 since Math_Mage changed his vote.

    And, really, I wonder what Olinser has against Ice Cream and possibly Love.

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    Interestingly enough, title honoring Lix won 5 to 4 since Math_Mage changed his vote.

    And, really, I wonder what Olinser has against Ice Cream and possibly Love.
    If I was around, I would have voted for it. It took a couple read-throughs to understand it, but I like it.

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    But yeah, everyone hates ranked. It's why I put off my provisional matches as long as possible.
    Well, it's not like you have to do them. Just be like me and don't play Ranked for ages until you suddenly start because something makes you want to.
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    Gimmie my check mark.

    Also: AP Kog, how bad an idea is this?
    At least in season 3, it was one of his common builds, if I remember correctly.
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    Well, it's not like you have to do them. Just be like me and don't play Ranked for ages until you suddenly start because something makes you want to.
    Kinda where I'm at as well.

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    Also: AP Kog, how bad an idea is this?
    AP Kog can work fine. It's actually pretty fun to since you just murder things from high range.
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    Also: AP Kog, how bad an idea is this?
    Its not great, although probably better now that Q has longer range on it. Doesn't lane well and doesn't transition into a thing that's just not currently favored late-game. As an AP DPS, he's basically a longer-ranged Kayle with almost none of her utility.

    Granted, he's *REALLY* fun with Athene's and some CDR and some decent hard-hitting Rs, but I don't think its reasonable to get that up and running on him.
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    Its not great, although probably better now that Q has longer range on it. Doesn't lane well and doesn't transition into a thing that's just not currently favored late-game. As an AP DPS, he's basically a longer-ranged Kayle with almost none of her utility.

    Granted, he's *REALLY* fun with Athene's and some CDR and some decent hard-hitting Rs, but I don't think its reasonable to get that up and running on him.
    Froggen keeps stomping solo queue with him so in that sense he's viable. Probably not quite there competitively but fine on solo queue level provided you know how to play the poke game (e.g. know Nidalee).
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    I didn't post about it in the previous thread, but I counted myself as voting for it as well. I liked the wordplay.

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    Well, it's not like you have to do them. Just be like me and don't play Ranked for ages until you suddenly start because something makes you want to.
    And that something is when they announce what the rewards are... Then I get into Silver with my placement games then lack the time or determination to play more.

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    Gimmie my check mark.

    Also: AP Kog, how bad an idea is this?
    I have a friend who got to Plat playing only AP Kog with Clarity/Flash and 0 CDR. I'm sure you can see how to improve on his build.
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