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2014-06-17, 02:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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I really need to find some good rugby coverage. I've seen American football. On almost every level from pee-wee to professional, impacts on every play risk serious injury. Pads are an attempt to extend playing careers by dissipating those most severe collisions.
And still the players end up with a lifetime of crippling injuries -- particularly the concussions that have been making themselves known of late.
Are the unprotected Australian rules and other non-padded persuasions just as rigorous?
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2014-06-17, 02:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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There is a theory that the padding in American football, if not increasing the risk of injury per se, is actually contributory to the injury problem, because it encourages players to hit harder and more dangerously than they would do if they were unarmoured. What's more while it protects against impact it doesn't afford the same level of protection to torsion-related injuries and in particular neck support is insuffiicent. But I haven't seen enough American football to know.
Rugby certainly has injury problems, but really serious injuries are thankfully pretty rare. Most matches will see a number of low-level injuries, cuts, grazes, bashed ears and noses, etc. but not as much as you'd expect. Of course rugby, unlike American football, doesn't allow tackling off the ball, so while there is still the scope for collisions and there are still some big melees - each team in a scrum will weigh the best part of a ton, and if the front row doesn't do its job properly there is the possibility of really serious injury - the number of individual collisions and tackles in a game may be lower. Although since the substitute rules are different, each player probably takes more punishment in rugby over the course of a match; it's swings and roundabouts I guess.GITP Blood Bowl Manager Cup
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2014-06-17, 03:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-06-17, 03:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah, this is similar to how the boxing glove is the most dangerous thing in boxing: by reducing the impact you feel in your hands it encourages people to go for the harder face as opposed to the softer stomach. In rugby there are loads of minor injuries as you get bashed about a lot, especially in a turnover in a rook because pretty much by definition you have your team being forced back across where you are lying on the ground. You get hurt a bit there.
Back on topic, is anyone here actually in Brazil for the world cup? An idea as to what the facilities are like would be good, especially with all the grumbling the British media have been doing.
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2014-06-17, 03:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Hey, I'm in Brazil!... not for the world cup, though, I just live here.
Pretty weak display from Brazil. Thankfully the officials didn't gave in to the silly attempts at creating fake penalties, near the end. That would have been disgraceful.
Mexico played better than Brazil today, frankly. Pretty solid defense and good counter-attack.Last edited by Ellye; 2014-06-17 at 04:09 PM.
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2014-06-17, 04:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah, I went into that as a complete neutral and by the end was thoroughly rooting for Mexico. Having said that, while Mexico's defence was good (and their keeper was awesome) their finishing was weak: there were periods where they were raining shots in but none of them on target. All the same they're looking good value to qualify if they put in something similar against Croatia.
Fred was very poor, again. I'd be surprised to see him start against Cameroon, but Scolari doesn't tend to like changing his plans.GITP Blood Bowl Manager Cup
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2014-06-17, 04:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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If the Mexican side had been a bit more agressive forward, they would have won this game. Without that, the end result is pretty fair. Mexico losing would have been entirely unfair.
The Mexican goalkeeper was pretty much awesome
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2014-06-17, 04:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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It's interesting to note that he's a free agent at the moment. I'd guess that he just raised the interest of at least a few more clubs.
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2014-06-17, 04:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Ssc Napoli seems to be interested
So far he makes "only" 300 grand a year, which makes him very affordabe for a lot of clubs
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2014-06-17, 04:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-06-17, 05:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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I feel your pain. But it's getting better on the soccer front, at least.
Seems the '94 World Cup did its job.
Ochoa was wonderful today. It was a good match, very even.
Looking at the group Mexico's almost a lock for advancing. But then I don't know anything about the strength of Croatia's or Cameroon's team...Last edited by Cristo Meyers; 2014-06-17 at 05:48 PM.
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2014-06-17, 05:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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It wasn't a particularly high-quality match, unless you're a defensive purist (Marques did really well at managing the back three, but forward play was fairly poor from both teams), but it was pretty exciting especially towards the end.
I thought Cameroon were unimpressive against Mexico, and Croatia looked ok against Brazil. If they play like this, Mexico should get at least a point from the Croatia match, and Brazil should beat Cameroon, which would put both today's teams through.GITP Blood Bowl Manager Cup
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2014-06-17, 06:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Well, still being really new to the international football scene also helps.
I thought Cameroon were unimpressive against Mexico, and Croatia looked ok against Brazil. If they play like this, Mexico should get at least a point from the Croatia match, and Brazil should beat Cameroon, which would put both today's teams through.
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2014-06-17, 06:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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You'd think that if you were a goalkeeper in the World Cup, someone could have taught you to hold a ball. I feel for that Russian keeper, but sheesh, that shot had no right to be a goal if he had just got his hands right.
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2014-06-17, 07:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Heh. It is easy to become quite jaded, and also quite nostalgic. The way I remember teams like Brazil and Columbia playing in the 90s, even a mediocre game was still a delight to watch because of the flair all over the pitch. Brazil did make a determined effort to de-flair the team in the early 00s (largely after the humiliation of the '98 final, I think) but I do suspect my memory is playing tricks and selectively editing out a lot of the dullness. I do think the quality of football today is probably higher - and certainly higher on average, but it does seem like it's not quite so spectacular and fun as it used to be. Part of that too I think is that the draw of the big European leagues is so high you don't tend to get surprise superstars in the same way you once did (although that factor was seriously in decline even by the time I started watching).
But all the same, I'll leave this here, one of the most underrated World Cup goals ever:
(Worth bearing in mind that Belgium were seeded third for that WC, ahead of both finalists).GITP Blood Bowl Manager Cup
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2014-06-17, 07:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah, their goalkeeper committed quite a bit of mistakes in that match, but this one in particular was pretty big. If anyone missed it: http://nextimpulsesports.com/2014/06...oal-world-cup/.
Well, I figure Guillermo Ocho used up all the goalkeeping energy quota for the day.Last edited by Ellye; 2014-06-17 at 07:43 PM.
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2014-06-18, 02:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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so... is there any way to watch the AUS-NDL match online today? in Italy they only show it on sky, which I don't have...
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2014-06-18, 03:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-06-18, 03:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Man, I suck at predicting matches in this World Cup.
In the office pool, I'm currently shared third from last out of 42 participants.
I'm still hoping that my pick of Argentina winning it in the end comes through, though.
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2014-06-18, 04:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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I'll give german TV a try.. if I can get it. I have a way of watching english and US tv in streaming, provided it's not pay per view, but I have no idea if any channel in those countries will show the matches for free. anyhoo, I've been given a streaming option, so I should be all set. thanks.
I don't see it.
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2014-06-18, 06:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Guys. I'm 39th in a pool of 42 in picking games. I don't know anything about kickyball football. I'm not saying I THINK they will win. I'm saying I hope they win, since that would make my pre-tournament pick come through. it was a random pick. Based on no valuable information, or rather. based on no information at all.
You don't need to feel obligated to tell me why I'm wrong.
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2014-06-18, 06:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-06-18, 07:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Oh... never mind, then...
EDIT: I'm really looking forward to Chile vs. Spain tonight. Not that I'm rooting against Spain per se, but I'm a big fan of drama, and what a drama it would be if the current world (and European) champion gets kicked out during preliminaries. Not that likely to happen, but still I think we're in for a good game.Last edited by Bit Fiend; 2014-06-18 at 07:21 AM.