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2014-07-06, 01:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Nov 2012
Fast time plane effects without planar shepard?
So far the only fast time plane that I've been able to find is Dal Quor, but it's not a plane that you can actually reach via planeshift so I don't know how to take advantage of it.
Is there any way to gain the benefits of Dal Quor for a long period of time (like long enough to craft things) without being a Planar Shepherd??
Currently I have essentially free persistent spell, extend spell, and echoing spell via spelldancer if that helps any. Currently Wizard 6/Swiftblade 5/Spelldancer 1 and looking to take more swiftblade. The party crafter left the campaign and I want to see if I can fill the role, but the DM doesn't like to give us so much downtime.
Genesis to create a fast time demi plane is....well pretty far out of reach (I won't get 9ths until epic).
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2014-07-06, 01:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fast time plane effects without planar shepard?
Also, genesis says nothing about planar traits, such as time or magic affinity. Only customizing the "atmosphere, water, temperature, and the general shape of the terrain."
Why do people keep overlooking that line?
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2014-07-06, 02:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fast time plane effects without planar shepard?
Planar Bubble is 10 min,/level, and hence could be made to last all day with some CL boosting and/or metamagic, but you'd actually need to be native to Dal Quor or have a native of Dal Quor on hand to benefit.
Spoiler: Genesis digressionI don't think that they're overlooking it, it's just that Genesis doesn't say "you can control these factors and nothing else," it says:
Originally Posted by SRD, Genesis
So what it actually allows you to do is vague; some people rule that "most any desire the spellcaster can visualize" to include time traits (etc.).
Compare to the psionic version, which contains an important line that the spell version does not:
Originally Posted by SRD, GenesisLast edited by Karnith; 2014-07-06 at 02:06 PM.
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2014-07-06, 02:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Nov 2012
Re: Fast time plane effects without planar shepard?
hmm, I guess I just never really noticed that. So the only way to get fast time is to get it directly from an existing fast time plane...of which only one has ever been published (Dal Quor) and it's disconnected from all the other planes?
Or if your DM rules that time traits are fair game for the spell version of genesis I guess.
But back to the planar bubble idea. What was are there that I could "become" a native of Dal Quor or "obtain" a native of Dal Quor? Would becoming a quori (the native creature of Dal Quor) via polymorph qualify me as a native of their plane for planar bubble?Last edited by DarkSonic1337; 2014-07-06 at 02:11 PM.
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2014-07-06, 02:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fast time plane effects without planar shepard?