Hot Chicks: CON or CHA?

[Mexikorn]

Or just have a good Charisma. I was playing a Male Stripper-Turned-Paladin in a campaign that recently collapsed.

I believe you, but let's be honest. A male stripper is way more believable in a middle-aged setting than a male model. Littlefinger in GoT hires male prostitutes. But male models are a different thing, who would hire them and for what purpose? Unless it's basically the same thing I can't imagine how I can have a past as a "successful and well known!!!" male model. That's kinda the point of being Derek Zoolander.
No offense, I'm not implying I'm being or sounding offensive but I don't want to appear aggressive.

[Frozen_Feet]

A funny fact: Geisha of Japan were, at one point, predominantly young boys and men. A Geisha would fit all of model, superstar, singer, dancer and prostitute.

[Icewraith]

Alright so the consensus for the stat distribution of a hot chick is as follows:

STR: 8-18
DEX: 8-18
CON: 8-18
INT: 8-18
WIS: 8-18
CHA: 8-18

With at least one stat, dependant on the particular description of the hotness of the chick, being 15 or better and the higher the stat total the more likely there will be agreement that the chick is, in fact, "hot".

Alternatively: Use fire elemental bloodline/fire genasi, raptoran/half-celestial/chocobo, or pyromancer/cleric(fire domain) as supporting character choices.

[VeliciaL]

Alternatively: Use ... chocobo ... as supporting character choices.

You have weird fetishes...

[Icewraith]

You have weird fetishes...

Are you saying you wouldn't consider a fire elemental bloodline chocobo pyromancer a "hot chick"?

Edit: Or, apparently, a pun fail?

[VeliciaL]

Are you saying you wouldn't consider a fire elemental bloodline chocobo pyromancer a "hot chick"?

Edit: Or, apparently, a pun fail?

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Less pun fail, more I'm slow.

[Coidzor]

I believe you, but let's be honest. A male stripper is way more believable in a middle-aged setting than a male model. Littlefinger in GoT hires male prostitutes. But male models are a different thing, who would hire them and for what purpose? Unless it's basically the same thing I can't imagine how I can have a past as a "successful and well known!!!" male model. That's kinda the point of being Derek Zoolander.
No offense, I'm not implying I'm being or sounding offensive but I don't want to appear aggressive.

Meh. Fashion houses need male models too if you're operating under the general not actually medieval model anyway.

There are artists who like painting things other than (nude) women, and whether or not you want to take that towards the homoerotic is up to you.

No need to limit yourself to such hidebound thinking.

[SaintRidley]

Actually, I already came up with that idea too. His background is, he was a superstar/popstar (the thing that get's closest to manmodel) bard which got fed up with being rich and popular and good looking and wanted to go on an adventure and help people or so... it's some time since I actually saw the movie. Putting lots of points into Str/Dex/Con/Cha and very very little into Int/Wis. Then I'd have to roleplay a moronic character, but how to properly make your Ingame char act stupid without blocking YOURself to much is a topic for another thread.

Zoolander should have sky high Cha, high Dex (the better to pull off his moves), low end mediocre Str and Con (*cough* I got the Black Lung, Pop *cough*), and dump Wis/Int. I'd go 8/18/8/6/6/18 from PB, for a 28 PB total.

I do like the Bard idea, though. It's so hot right now.

[Mexikorn]

Zoolander should have sky high Cha, high Dex (the better to pull off his moves), low end mediocre Str and Con (*cough* I got the Black Lung, Pop *cough*), and dump Wis/Int. I'd go 8/18/8/6/6/18 from PB, for a 28 PB total.

I do like the Bard idea, though. It's so hot right now.

I don't get your argument for this low STR and CON tho. He's a model doing "phsyical exercise" for a living, shouldnt it be at least average? He may not have shown any particularily amazing feats in the movie but he was chosen to be a male model assasin. I doubt high dex (and being a total moron) was the only criteria.

Meh. Fashion houses need male models too if you're operating under the general not actually medieval model anyway.

There are artists who like painting things other than (nude) women, and whether or not you want to take that towards the homoerotic is up to you.

No need to limit yourself to such hidebound thinking.

Yeah, yeah, I get where you're going.
The thing is (I'm pedantic) even if you were a male model in the biggest "fashion industry" on the middle age planet, I'm pretty certain only rich merchants and nobility would know you. There is no (plausible) way to spread advertisment all the way to the common folk, which kinda means he's not exactly popular. And even if you were, no one would buy your stuff because they can't afford it. If that makes any sense. You know what I mean? It's difficult. (in my mind) And yes I believe being a popular musician is different :/ ?

[The Insanity]

I don't get your argument for this low STR and CON tho. He's a model doing "phsyical exercise" for a living, shouldnt it be at least average? He may not have shown any particularily amazing feats in the movie but he was chosen to be a male model assasin. I doubt high dex (and being a total moron) was the only criteria.

Yup. The villain chose male super models for his assassins because of their perfect physical fitness, IIRC. They have to work out a lot to get those sculpted bodies and they move a lot when working. That was the joke at least, because we know that although some models are in good shape, it doesn't mean they're Olympic athletes.

The thing is (I'm pedantic) even if you were a male model in the biggest "fashion industry" on the middle age planet, I'm pretty certain only rich merchants and nobility would know you.

I'd say it would be cityfolk in general. Even if you're too poor to buy such clothes, it's free to watch, no?

[Mexikorn]

Yup. The villain chose male super models for his assassins because of their perfect physical fitness, IIRC. They have to work out a lot to get those sculpted bodies and they move a lot when working. That was the joke at least, because we know that although some models are in good shape, it doesn't mean they're Olympic athletes.


I'd say it would be cityfolk in general. Even if you're too poor to buy such clothes, it's free to watch, no?

watch where? television broadcast? advertisments so the people who are to poor to be a target group for product placement can see you? or just open air shows with lots of commoners around? doesnt make sense in my mind

[The Insanity]

watch where?

Um, where the fashion show is being held?

advertisments so the people who are to poor to be a target group for product placement can see you? or just open air shows with lots of commoners around?

I'd imagine they would want as many people as possible to know of their clothes, so general advertisement, plus personal invitations for the rich and influential, is likely. Also not all citizens are commoners and some are able to afford at least one nice suit. And yes, open air shows would probably be a thing.

doesnt make sense in my mind

Well, it does in my.

[Leon]

Appearance is best represented by a feat.

Its best left to a Character description.

[JusticeZero]

If you want to have a tangible effect on how NPCs react to you, the rule of "it don't mean a thing till you've paid for that swing" is going to come up.

[AMFV]

To add my two cents. Different high stats can represent different aspects of what we consider to be attractive. Charisma is a flowing and amazing personality, so somebody who is just magnetic could have high Charisma they could be perceived as very attractive. Quickness of wit is intelligence, wittiness can be attractive (as seen in Much Ado About Nothing). Wisdom is constancy and the ability to deal well with scenarios, faithfulness, holding to your principles, a very attractive trait (As we see in Persuasion). High Con can reflect an overall healthy person. Depending. High Dex generally represents a leanness which is often found attractive, and strength represents tone and tautness of muscle.

It's also worth noting that high stats in those areas don't necessarily represent any of those things, it's just a variety of different ways that people can be attracted to a particular person.