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2014-08-13, 09:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Durkula is going to return to the Dwarven homelands as part of Hel's plot
1) Hel is planning things involving the dwarves, against Thor. (OOTS 946)
2) The party is headed North, which is where the dwarves live.
3) The Oracle told Durkon he would return home "posthumously," and he is currently posthumous.Last edited by esorscher; 2014-08-13 at 09:59 AM.
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2014-08-13, 10:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Durkula is going to return to the Dwarven homelands as part of Hel's plot
Durkula will return to the Dwarven homelands as part of visiting the last Gate--it's Kraagor's Gate, so it must be built closest to Kraagor's homeland, and Kraagor was a dwarf. There's no need for Hel's plot to involve the Dwarven homelands at all, since it's the Gate she's interested in.
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2014-08-13, 10:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-08-13, 10:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-08-13, 11:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Durkula is going to return to the Dwarven homelands as part of Hel's plot
I don't understand the point of this thread. Of course he will. What part of that or the three numbered points is news? I'll bet 50 Internet points that someone figured out that posthumousness included vampirism in the thread about the strip where he died. They're already back in the North, judging by the storm. We don't know yet whether "the North" and the Dwarven homelands are coextensive, whether Kraagor's Gate is within the Dwarven homelands or merely near it, or the details of Hel's plot, but Durkula is already in the area of the Dwarven homelands as part of Hel's plot.
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2014-08-13, 07:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-08-13, 07:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-08-13, 08:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-08-13, 08:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-08-13, 08:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-08-13, 09:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-08-14, 03:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-08-14, 04:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Durkula is going to return to the Dwarven homelands as part of Hel's plot
Just because you don't know a reason doesn't mean a reason doesn't exist.
Likely the gates are involved - but the possibility remains that they are not - for example if the plan is to turn most of the clerics of Thor into vampires and setup a Necrocracy, the gate might not be involved at all - and associating with the Order could simply be to ensure that they don't hunt him down and stake him to revive Durkon.
We simply don't know with certainty.
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2014-08-14, 06:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-08-14, 10:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Durkula is going to return to the Dwarven homelands as part of Hel's plot
Maybe, but I like to go with the simplest available explanation which fits all the facts, which at the moment is that Durkula is staying with the Order because he's going to the same place they are--e.g. the Gate. My record on being correct on future comic plot predictions is not stellar, but this theory will do until we get some information that disproves it.
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2014-08-14, 10:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-08-14, 02:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Durkula is going to return to the Dwarven homelands as part of Hel's plot
See, I'd look at it more like he's staying with the Order because he's going to the same place they are: the region where the Gate is located.
It would be very straightforward if he's going after the Gate as well, but misdirection (of the type that promotes inaccurate plot predictions) works by making it easy to come to highly plausible assumptions (that are inaccurate).FeytouchedBanana eldritch disciple avatar by...me!
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2014-08-15, 11:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Durkula is going to return to the Dwarven homelands as part of Hel's plot
It's possible that Hel doesn't want anything to do with the Gates, and would prefer that everyone stay far away from them, because she's afraid of what will happen if the last one is destroyed. So she's ordering her high priest to stay with the Order so he can try to steer them away from the Gate. Is this the most likely scenario? I don't know. But it's just as consistent with the facts as the hypothesis that she does want to meddle with the Gate herself.
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2014-08-16, 04:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-08-16, 11:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Durkula is going to return to the Dwarven homelands as part of Hel's plot
If his goal was to steer them away from the Gate his best options were
A) team up with Nale and/or Tarquin to help kill them
B) do nothing and let the silicon elemental/Linear Guild/Tarquin kill them
C) be his own force and kill them himself; maybe vampirize Z
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2014-08-17, 01:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Durkula is going to return to the Dwarven homelands as part of Hel's plot
evileeyore is The Giant's secret alternate account.
My hunch is that Hel is interested in the Gate, but I think it is possible that she wants something completely unrelated. It could be as simple as the top clerics of Thor and Odin being killed.
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2014-08-17, 04:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-08-17, 09:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Without knowing what roles the high priests play in the hierarchy of the clergies and/or the dwarves, it could very well end up with a Witcher 2 style event where
Spoiler: Witcher SpoilersThe intent is simply to cause infighting and chaos by taking out the leaders until another seemingly uninvolved party comes in to wipe the table with the formerly strong and united groups.“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
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2014-08-17, 10:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Durkula is going to return to the Dwarven homelands as part of Hel's plot
The prophecy in OOPC said that the next time Durkon came to the dwarven lands, he would "bring doom upon us all," so it is extremely likely that Hel's plan does involves Durkon's hometown.
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