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    Default [Template] Anthropomorphic Creature

    Seeing as how the Anthropomorphic Creature template in Savage Species is both 3.0 and sucky, I thought I'd whip this together.
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    Creating an Anthropomorphic Creature
    "Anthropomorphic" is a template that can be applied to any non-swarm animal, vermin, or--at DM's discretion--magical beast.

    Size and Type
    An anthropomorphic creature's size is dependent on the size of the base creature. If the base creature was Tiny or smaller, the new creature's size is Small. If the base creature was Small, Medium, or Large, the new creature's size is Medium. If the base creature was Huge or bigger, the new creature's size is Large.

    An anthropomorphic creature's type changes to Monstrous Humanoid, and it gains the (Augmented) subtype. The new creature also retains all subtypes of the original creature. If the base creature had the Aquatic subtype, the new creature also gains the Amphibious special quality (see below).

    Since it is assuming a humanoid shape, an anthropomorphic creature's limbs change. Half the creature's limbs (round up to the nearest number evenly divisible by 2) become legs, so that a six-limbed creature would have two arms and four legs. If the base creature has no limbs (such as a snake or eel), the anthropomorphic creature gains two arms. If the base creature has two limbs, the anthropomorphic creature gains two legs.

    Creatures with more than four arms as a result of this qualify for Multiweapon Fighting (see below), while those with more than four legs gain the Stability special quality (see below).

    HD
    The base creature loses half its hit dice (rounded down), to a minimum of 0. Creatures with 0 or 1 HD advance by class. Most anthropomorphic creatures havea favored class of Fighter, though Barbarian, Rogue, and Sorceror are not unheard of. This is largely up to DM discretion though.

    Speed
    An anthropomorphic creature has speed according to its size and original form. If the new creature is Small, it has a base speed of 20' or 1/2 the speed of the original form, whichever is greater. If the new creature is Medium or Large, it has a base speed of 30', or the speed of the original form, whichever is greater.

    If the base creature has a fly speed, the new one does as well. This fly speed can only be used under a light load or less, and has a maximum speed of 1/2 the base creature's fly speed or 20', whichever is greater. The base creature's maneuverability also degrades one class: perfect to good; good to average; average to poor; poor to clumsy. If the base creature's maneuverability was clumsy, the new creature has wings but cannot fly under their power. Instead, it can glide for a distance equal to half the base creature's fly speed with a maneuverability of clumsy.

    An anthropomorphic creature also retains any other forms of movement (swim, burrow, climb, etc.), though these speeds are halved (or are set at 20', whichever is greater).

    AC
    An anthropomorphic creature has half the natural armor of the original form (rounded down).

    Attacks
    An anthropomorphic creature keeps any natural attacks or special attacks of the base creature that do not require the use of hind legs. These natural attacks scale according to the creature's size.

    Special Qualities
    An anthropomorphic creature retains any extraordinary special qualities (such as darkvision) of the base creature as-is. Further, an anthropomorphic creature retains the spell-like and supernatural abilities of the base creature, but changes the caster levels on such to equal to "one-half HD, rounded down (minimum 1)." Supernatural and spell-like abilites with uses per day are reduced to once per day; those with unlimited uses per day are reduced to three times per day.

    Certain anthropomorphic creatures gain special qualities based on their forms.

    Stability: An anthropomorphic creature with more than two legs gains a +4 bonus on ability checks made to resist being bull rushed or tripped when standing on the ground (but not when climbing, flying, riding, or otherwise not standing firmly on the ground).

    Multiweapon Fighting: An anthropomorphic creature with more than two arms qualifies for the Multiweapon Fighting tree.

    Amphibious: An anthropomorphic creature whose original form is aquatic gains the ability to survive equally well on land and in water.

    Saves
    An anthropomorphic creature retains any racial saving throw bonuses of the base creature, though they are halved (round down).

    Abilities
    An anthropomorphic creature's physical racial ability modifiers can be determined by subtracting ten (or eleven, if odd) from the base creature's ability scores. Treat the base creature's strength and constitution scores as two points higher for each size category the anthropomorphic creature increases, or as two points lower for each size category the anthropomorphic creature decreases.

    An anthropomorphic creature's mental racial ability modifiers can be determined by the score itself. If the score is below 10, the creature has a -2 to that ability score. If the score is above ten, the creature has a +2 to that ability score.

    If a creature has a nonability (such as many vermin do, demarcated by "-" or "Ø"), it is considered to have a modifier of +0 for that statistic.

    Skills
    An anthropomorphic creature retains any racial skill bonuses of the base creature, though they are halved (round down to the nearest number evenly divisible by two).

    Feats
    An anthropomorphic creature loses all feats of the original form, gaining feats as per the normal method of gaining Hit Dice.

    Challenge Rating
    Equal to Level Adjustment (see below).

    Alignment
    Usually TN.

    Advancement
    By character class. Anthropomorphic creatures do not advance by racial hit dice.

    Level Adjustment
    +0, modified by the following:

    +1 for each extra pair of arms. +1 for Large size. +1 for total ability modifiers greater than +0. +1 for natural armor greater than +2. +1 for a fly or burrow speed.

    Sample Anthropomorphic Creature

    Glenn
    Small Monstrous Humanoid (Augmented Animal)
    Fighter 1
    HD 1d10+4 (14 HP)
    Speed 20 ft. (4 squares)
    Init: +2
    AC 20; touch 14; flat-footed 17
    :(+1 size, +5 armor, +1 shield, +2 Dex, +1 dodge)
    BAB +1; Grp -3
    Attack longsword +1 melee (1d6)
    Full-Attack longsword +1 melee (1d6)
    Space 5 ft.; Reach 5 ft.
    Special Attacks Power Attack
    Special Qualities Amphibious, Low-Light Vision
    Saves Fort +6 Ref +2 Will +3
    Abilities Str 11, Dex 14, Con 18, Int 13, Wis 16, Cha 12
    Skills Ride +4, Swim +4, Hide +6
    Feats Combat Expertise, Dodge
    Equipment longsword, breastplate, light steel shield
    Challenge Rating 1
    Alignment Neutral Good
    Advancement by character class; Favored Class Fighter
    Level Adjustment +0

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    ...Mr. Toad, Glenn Rogue!

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    I thought it was a CronoTrigger reference.
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    Hmm. This template interests me. But, say, how would you deal with something with a - in a stat?

    Or is an anthro-vermin out of the question?

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    Default Re: [Template] Anthropomorphic Creature

    "Anthropomorphic" is a template that can be applied to any non-swarm, intelligent animal, vermin, or--at DM's discretion--magical beast.
    Emphasis mine. You can have anthrovermin, just not nonintelligent ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fax_Celestis View Post
    Emphasis mine. You can have anthrovermin, just not nonintelligent ones.
    This saddens me, since most vermin are nonintelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ampcptlogic View Post
    I thought it was a CronoTrigger reference.
    I know, but it doesn't stop me wanting to play Mr. Toad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indon View Post
    This saddens me, since most vermin are nonintelligent.
    Let me see what I can do about fixing that.

    EDIT: try that. Check under the Abilities heading.

    ...now I have ideas for an anthropomorphic giant wasp.

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    You might want to clarify that 'non-intelligent' means an intelligence score of -.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NullAshton View Post
    You might want to clarify that 'non-intelligent' means an intelligence score of -.
    Good point.

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    I think the strength might be a bit off. Let me try something out:

    Bruno is an average anthropomorphic brown bear. His stats, before the racial modifications, are Str 13, Dex 8, Con 12, Int 10, Wis 11, Cha 9

    Bruno
    Medium Monstrous Humanoid (Augmented Animal)
    HD 3d8+12 (29 HP)
    Speed 40 ft. (8 squares)
    Init: +0
    AC 12; 10 touch ; 12 flat-footed
    :(+2 natural)
    BAB +3; +11 Grp
    Attack Claw +11 melee (1d8+8)
    Full-Attack 2 claws +11 melee (1d8+8) and bite +6 melee (2d6+4)
    Space 5 ft.; Reach 5 ft.
    Special Attacks Improved Grab
    Special Qualities Low-Light Vision, Scent
    Saves Fort +5 Ref +3 Will +4
    Abilities Str 27, Dex 10, Con 18, Int 8, Wis 13, Cha 7
    Skills Listen +3, Spot +5, Swim +10
    Feats Endurance, Track
    Equipment None
    Challenge Rating 1
    Alignment Neutral
    Advancement by character class; Favored Class Fighter
    Level Adjustment +1

    As a PC, Bruno would far outstrip a 4th level fighter. Equip him with gear appropriate for his level and he's truly gruesome. Even without he's quite fearsome.

    I think the CR needs work; mere "Level Adjustment" is insufficient. Note that while easier to hit and not as hardy as the Brown Bear, Bruno is capable of just as much damage.

    Also, strength needs to scale differently. According to the MM, a size change garners 4- or 8-point changes in Strength, not 2 (except for the very bottom of the scale). A Medium-size brown bear, for instance, would only have a strength of 19, not 27, giving the anthtopomorphic bear a +8, not a +14. This might be more balanced.

    This template also gives almost every anthropomorphic animal a -2 Intelligence, +2 Wisdom and -2 Charisma. Some come out to -2 Intelligence, +0 Wisdom, -2 Charisma instead. Is this intended?

    Natural weapons need to explicitly scale, as well. Bruno's bite should be a d8, and his claws d6s, but as written, that is not what happens.

    Bruno comes out a little less powerful if his racial hit dice are animal, not monstrous humanoid. Perhaps this should be written into the 'HD' section.
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    You went the wrong way with his strength adjustment. He got smaller, so his strength goes DOWN.

    two points lower for each size category the anthropomorphic creature decreases.
    This is for determining the modifier only.

    Also, the CR is ADDED equal to the LA, not EQUAL to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fax_Celestis View Post
    You went the wrong way with his strength adjustment. He got smaller, so his strength goes DOWN.
    Right. The Large Brown Bear, which he is anthropomorphed off of, has a Strength of 27 - +16. Since he got smaller, he only got +14 of that.

    He should have only gotten +8 of it, though.


    Also, the CR is ADDED equal to the LA, not EQUAL to.
    That's not the way it reads. It reads that the CR is equal to the Level Adjustment. Period. There needs to be a manner to adjucate the CR based off the base creature, but, obviously, it can't just be "As base creature plus level adjustment, see below", because the halving of the hit dice hurts especially high-CR animals a lot, severely lowering their CR.

    The CR adjustment rules in the MM are written for adding Hit Dice, and I don't think they work very well in reverse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krellen View Post
    That's not the way it reads. It reads that the CR is equal to the Level Adjustment. Period.
    Now you're just being picky.

    The way all templates are written, the CR entry adds to the base creature's CR. Every. Single. Time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuki_Akuma View Post
    The way all templates are written, the CR entry adds to the base creature's CR. Every. Single. Time.
    Yes, they do have 'as base creature +', generally. But that doesn't work for this. A 5 Hit Die anthropomorphic Elephant is not CR 7, let alone the CR 10 his +3 Level Adjustment (for stats, natural armour, and size) would make him.

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    And, of course, class levels always add to CR.
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    Uh, where did class levels come in? The anthropomorphic elephant has racial hit dice, which aren't class levels.

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    Just wondering would a Displacer beast antro look like a centar?

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    Probably.

    And yay! Now we can create more catgirls to replace the one that keep dying.
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    Anyone else getting visions of anthro turtles and rats with 'Ninja' as a favored class?

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    I'm leaning towards an anthro-ant crafter-type, myself. (Edit: Which makes me happy that nonintelligents aren't penalized as if they had low int!)

    I don't have access to any book with Artificer, but maybe a friend might...

    Also, phoenix, outstanding joke.

    And Krellen, I think, brings up a good point. I'd say add an additional +1 LA for each stat with a racial modifier of over +6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krellen View Post
    Yes, they do have 'as base creature +', generally. But that doesn't work for this. A 5 Hit Die anthropomorphic Elephant is not CR 7, let alone the CR 10 his +3 Level Adjustment (for stats, natural armour, and size) would make him.

    I disagree, I think that's a reasonable CR. Just by comparison, you could have a: Clay Golem, 11 Headed Hydra, Couatl, Noble Salamander, or Guardian Naga. I would go with any of those over the Elephant in an instant.
    Sure, the Elephant may look scary with its big strength and con stats and what not, but this is where we look back at Ogres. Those things are scary as hell when you're at the appropriate level. You let them get close to you and you can kiss your character goodbye. Yet, they have a low AC and their hit points aren't that great. If you have enough room to get some shots it before it gets to you, it's not all that bad. What's more, for all their strength they may as well be a joke at higher levels where you can fell one in 2 rounds with just about any character (probably by level 6).
    So, while it may look BA, it's a lot easier to defeat than other creatures of its CR. Mind, also, that I don't think a player character should be playing an Anthropomorphic Bear or Elephant to begin with. Unless, of course, they're coming into the campaign later on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triaxx View Post
    Anyone else getting visions of anthro turtles and rats with 'Ninja' as a favored class?
    Master Splinter gets a 20' ground, climb and swim speed even when rushed and threatened, -6 Str, +4 Dex +2 Con, -2 Int, +2 Wis, -8 Cha, bonus to 5 skills, scent, and low light vison.

    He'd make a powerful ranged ranger/ninja
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    Ah, scent for free; Every Stealth character's dream. Especially rangers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calver View Post
    I disagree, I think that's a reasonable CR.
    You're thinking in the wrong direction. The Anthropomorphic Elephant is less than CR 10 - probably less than CR 7, even - not more. I'm not saying it's not enough CR; I'm saying it's too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krellen View Post
    You're thinking in the wrong direction. The Anthropomorphic Elephant is less than CR 10 - probably less than CR 7, even - not more. I'm not saying it's not enough CR; I'm saying it's too much.
    Ok, and if you are following the conversation, I said that I Disagree and believe that it should be, if anything at all, less than a CR 10.
    I'm saying that it's not too much
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fax_Celestis View Post
    Glenn
    Small Monstrous Humanoid (Augmented Animal)
    Fighter 1
    HD 1d10+4 (14 HP)
    Speed 20 ft. (4 squares)
    Init: +2
    AC 20; touch 14; flat-footed 17
    :(+1 size, +5 armor, +1 shield, +2 Dex, +1 dodge)
    BAB +1; Grp -3
    Attack longsword +1 melee (1d6)
    Full-Attack longsword +1 melee (1d6)
    Space 5 ft.; Reach 5 ft.
    Special Attacks Power Attack
    Special Qualities Amphibious, Low-Light Vision
    Saves Fort +6 Ref +2 Will +3
    Abilities Str 11, Dex 14, Con 18, Int 13, Wis 16, Cha 12
    Skills Ride +4, Swim +4, Hide +6
    Feats Combat Expertise, Dodge
    Equipment longsword, breastplate, light steel shield
    Challenge Rating 1
    Alignment Neutral Good
    Advancement by character class; Favored Class Fighter
    Level Adjustment +0
    How can he have Power Attack with 11 strength? Is it a special attack of a frog? I also think Glenn is more of a paladin than fighter, and obviously lawful good at least.

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    At last, I can populate the Egyptian part of my setting with more than humans and Jann!

    Catfolk, dogfolk, ravenfolk, crocfolk, snakefolk, eaglefolk! My only misgiving is that dogfolk are always inherently better than catfolk. I'm having to mix around the ability scores to make them about equal.

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