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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LX
All you other slim shadys are just imitating.
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2014-10-15, 08:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LX
Oh, hey! I almost didn't see you there.
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LX
And that's yer lot! If I messed up anyone's build, please let me know and I'll fix it.
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2014-10-15, 09:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LX
hey thanks a lot for posting. looks like a weird round.
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2014-10-15, 11:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Huh. Everyone has levels in either Binder or Monk. Interesting.
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2014-10-16, 12:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LX
And, as always, even with all the time I had to potentially edit and fiddle with my build, I noticed a means to improve it immediately after the reveal. Oh well, I'm still pretty happy with it.
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2014-10-16, 12:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LX
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2014-10-16, 02:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LX
Wasn't there one from the other contest that was supposed to be entered in both?
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2014-10-16, 02:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LX
here is a link to Jacamo
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LX
Aye, relytdan got banned, so she couldn't submit the build again. Here it is:
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Re: Iron Chef Optimization Challenge in the Playground LX
It's really interesting to see how some of these builds panned out. I see two shadowpouncers, a ranged skirmisher, a brutish rogue and a magical trickster. There's also Relytdan's whip-cracking bucket of laughter, but Iunno if we should consider that a breach of anonymity.
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2014-10-16, 05:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-10-16, 07:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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You know, I think I'll try my hand at judging this round. Somebody's gotta do it.
Spoiler: CriteriaI'm not really one for the fine granularities. 3 is the baseline; it's fine. 4 is good. 2 is poor. 5 means you blew my mind and 1 means you just blew it. There is no 0.
Originality: A good score in originality means you did something unusual or unexpected. A bad score means you did something boring. The fact that all the builds used Acolyte of the Ego means that the scores here flattened out a lot; it's hard to have a build that uses it and still feels "usual" or "expected" because I honestly have no idea what I'm supposed to expect.
Elegance: Questionable rules interpretations, rules errors, cheesiness, and general awkwardness would earn you penalties here. Making everything click in a satisfying way would earn bonus points. There weren't a lot of bonus points this round. Bonus points in Elegance are hard.
Power: If you made it to mid/high-T4, you got a 3. T5 or low T4 is a 2.
Use of the Secret Ingredient: If you qualified, took all 10 levels, were competent enough in truespeaking to make the DCs, and didn't suck so hard that you made the whole thing look bad, you probably got a 3. If you did something nifty that helped justify it, you got a 4. Spoiler alert: nobody got a 5.
Spoiler: Derleth Cruestus, The WordsniperOriginality: 3
Well...it's not unoriginal, but it doesn't seem terribly unique either. Rogue/Binder/Truenamer is a weird combination of classes, but they also aren't really combining in an interesting way. I dunno. Uh...here, have a 3.
Elegance: 2
Despite being human, you still managed to pick up a multiclass penalty. The Psionic Shot line on a non-psionic character is also awkward--you qualify with Wild Talent, yes, but if that's what you're wasting your racial bonus feat on...well, it's awkward. (You could have at least used the House Adon version from Complete Psionic. Minor Creation is great for a poison-user.) And the move action to regain psionic focus is not a combo with the move action to reload your heavy crossbow. Also, you wrote out your entry in a really annoying way, which I'm not specifically penalizing, but it displeased me. So you get a 2.
Power: 2
You don't really do anything. I mean, you can maybe snipe a little, but you spent a ton of build resources on it and you're still not even very good at it (and I'm not giving you points for using a shocking flaming corrosive frost weapon, anyone can do that). And you have some skills, but you're still only at 4 + Int for most of your levels, so you're below par compared to other skillmonkeys. The Binder levels would help with versatility, but you committed yourself pretty strongly to a single vestige and you never get the ability to bind a second one, so you're making poor use of it. Basically, you can do a few things but don't do any of them well, and you're easily overshadowed by anyone halfway competent. That's bad.
Use of the Secret Ingredient: 2
You took all 10 levels and you made the token investment in truespeaking, but the class has little to no synergy with everything else you're doing. I mean, you have abilities, and you can use them, and they do things, but mostly what they do is give you minor, low-impact buffs that you often won't have the actions for. In fact, as far as I can tell, for what your character is doing, it's pretty much worse than taking more levels of Truenamer, and that's saying something. I realize similar things can be said about some of the other entries because of how utterly dreadful Acolyte of the Ego is as a class, but your build falls under the "sucking so hard that you make it look bad" clause and theirs don't, so you get the 2.
Total: 9
Spoiler: Sabine Murkwoods, the Last Word of KrynnOriginality: 3
"Knowledge-focused skillmonkey with a pumped-up Truespeak check" isn't exactly breaking new ground, but Inquisitor is something you don't see much of. Overall, it's original enough for a 3.
Elegance: 3
I consider the Elder Evil thing to be on the cheesy side, but you did acknowledge that it's not integral to the build (and I agree with you), and it's not a huge boost in power, so you get a small enough ding in elegance and a small enough bump in power that I didn't bother factoring it into either score at all. I think you're generally on par here; nothing strikes me as especially elegant or inelegant. You get a 3.
Power: 3
Well, you're good at Knowledge checks, you have decent mobility, you're okay with Diplomacy, and you can sort of do melee combat a bit. Acolyte of the Ego is still bad, but you have Knowledge Devotion, Staggering Strike, and Power Attack doing some work for you, and it helps that your checks are easily high enough to simultaneously use all your buffs while teleporting into position. I think you managed to land in tier 4.
Use of the Secret Ingredient: 3.5
The elusive half-point. I waffled between 3 and 4 here, and I split the difference because your through-the-roof Truespeak checks are enough to put you above the baseline, but the fact that you're doing so little else with the class puts you below the entries that got a 4. (Spoiler: some entries got a 4.)
Total: 12.5
Spoiler: Benjamin NuttOriginality: 3
Lucky for you, I'm not docking points for the Vizzini effect, Mr. Sneak Attacking Shadowpouncer Monk. Unlucky for you, I'm not awarding points for fluff, even though I was cracking up at your backstory. Band of marauding Truenamers. ROFL. But yeah, nothing strikes me here either way, so you get a 3.
Elegance: 3
I thought about docking you for using an obscure technicality to qualify for Craft Wondrous Item, or for putting down a non-Lawful alignment as a Monk, but they seemed so trivial that I couldn't bring myself to do it, especially once you got on my good side with your fluff. So no bonus, but no penalty either.
Power: 3
I think you met the bar in this category. Seems T4 enough. Your Truespeak check isn't as high as some of the other entries, but I don't want this to be a bean-counting competition. You have magic items and skill focus. It's adequate.
Use of the Secret Ingredient: 4
Shadowpounce seems like a good use of the secret ingredient. It isn't amazing, but it is definitely a nifty thing that helps justify it. Sure, have an extra point.
Total: 13
Spoiler: The Slender ShadowOriginality: 4
Quicken Breath caught me by surprise, sort of. I wasn't expecting someone to come at it from the breath weapon angle. I want to reward it. I guess there's a case that the extra point could go in Power or Use of the Secret Ingredient, or maybe it's only worth half a point, or maybe it's worth two halves split between categories, but eh.
Elegance: 2
I think using a breath weapon that you don't care about to qualify for Quicken Breath so you can apply it to a totally different breath weapon is inelegant. I also think you overdipped. I wouldn't normally penalize dips when there are no multiclass xp penalties involved, but in this case, it cost you your fourth iterative in a build that's optimized for full attacking, and that is awkward. Oh, power-wise, sure, it's not a huge loss, but elegance-wise, it's definitely awkward. Between the two, I'm docking a point.
Power: 3
Not much to say about this one. It seems on par with the other shadowpouncer. Solid T4.
Use of the Secret Ingredient: 4
I'm giving you the same score as the other shadowpouncer because you're using the secret ingredient in the same way. Okay, you had Quicken Breath, but I paid you in Originality for that instead. And I don't want to put this as a 5. It doesn't feel like a 5 to me. Anyway, bottom line, it's good. You get a good score.
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Spoiler: Astrea Theodosia, Master of the Passive WayOriginality: 3
Swashbuckler was unexpected, but it's also boring, so meh. I'm calling it a 3.
Elegance: 2
You call yourself a Master of the Passive Way, but you never actually complete the path? You even have the Skill Focus (Bluff) and everything, which could have been doing double duty giving you your Passive Way thingy and qualifying you for Exemplar, but you abandon the style halfway through. What's the deal? Also, there is friction between Weapon Finesse and Improved Trip. You want to be tripping, but you also want to be Dex-based, which doesn't help your tripping. It makes the build feel less cohesive. And using Uncanny Trickster to progress a prestige class past its endpoint is sketchy stuff. All in all, I'm docking you a point.
Power: 3
Well, again, you are not very powerful, but you probably land in T4 near enough to the others. Some melee, some social skills, mobility, knowledges...it seems adequate.
Use of the Secret Ingredient: 4
Exemplar is doing for you what Inquisitor is doing for Sabine, more or less. So you get the same credit for having more reliable truespeaking checks. I'll toss in an extra half-point for stretching the secret ingredient further with Uncanny Trickster.
Total: 12
I think I'll skip Jacamo because of the aforementioned anonymity issue, but given that he didn't even bother to max out his Truespeak ranks, it's probably safe to say he would not have scored well, as I'm pretty sure he literally can't use his class features.Last edited by Troacctid; 2014-10-23 at 03:42 PM.
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Even though I did not enter this round I had planned on a build that would have been in both contests. I missed the deadline for the Lasher round so I didn't bother to finish for this Acolyte of the Ego round.
But just the same would that have meant that because the other round is over and done that mine would have been "ignored" because everyone would have known it was mine?
I don't find that reasoning fair.
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sorry, I didn't check whose it was before linking. now everyone's talking about her again. oops!
the issue isn't anonymity, it's that relytdan was being disruptive and rude to everyone and has been banned, so there's no point in giving her any more attention.
since it sounds like you didn't finish your acolyte, it's not that you want to enter it (if I'm reading you right) it's just the principle of the thing, which I can sort of understand.
this is a weird circumstance, so I wouldn't worry about it setting a precedent.I've got a new fantasy TTRPG about running your own fencing school in a 3 musketeers pastiche setting. Book coming soon.
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2014-10-16, 09:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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No. If you had submitted to both contests and then been banned, I would have ignored yours. For me, at least, the latter is more important than the former. Anonymity can sometimes be tenuous in these competitions, so that by itself wouldn't've been enough for me to not post your build. It's this particular weird combination of circumstances.
EDIT: Aaand, Swordsaged.Last edited by sakuuya; 2014-10-16 at 09:03 AM.
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You are correct about it being the principle.
Given the long time between I could have easily finished the build but it would have made little sense since I missed one half of the contests. I also had responded to sakuuya when she PMed me about if I had a build that I did not think it right for me to enter a build that I did not finish for the original due date.
It was the way I had read how the build was known so it was ignored that raised my eyebrows.
I do recognize that since she was banned she could not have resubmitted to you--even though you can be pretty sure it was submitted to Kuulvheysoon. She was a very active participant in Zinc Saucier so I know how quickly she submitted builds.
I agree about anonymity too. I'm sure the regular participants/readers of Iron Chef can usually recognize which builds were submitted by the usual suspects.
Thank you both for clarifying.Chairman emeritus for Zinc Saucier.
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Might I humbly suggest we move the discussion away from bannings?
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I should have probably made a note when I put up the builds why I was excluding Jacamo. I didn't because I was trying to avoid discussing banned posters, which, as you can see, worked super well. Ah, well, this is my first time doing anything like this, and it's a complicated case. I was bound to make a mistake or two. Sorry for the confusion, everybody!
Actually, Telflammar Shadowlord was my first thought, too (though, obviously, I never got around to building anything). I'm more surprised by the two Binders, particularly since they don't bind the same vestiges.Last edited by sakuuya; 2014-10-16 at 09:35 AM.
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It is an interesting crop for this ingredient and not what I was expecting at all.
I can say what I was going to do now. Didn't want to mention in the Lasher thread since this one was in Limbo. The build I was going to enter was going to be a human Ranger 6/Lasher 7/Acolyte of the Ego 7. Dual wielding whips and Ranger was my bridge class for the two SIs--both of them have class skills that the Ranger has as class skills. And the feat at first level Truename Training to make Truespeak a skill from Level 1.
The coolest thing that I had written for the build combined both class features of the SI. The build would have used the Acolyte's cadence that caused fear and combined with Intimidation (since it is a class skill for both SIs). Once the opponents were cowered, the Lasher's third hand would conveniently disarm all of the opponents within reach. And since the build had Two Weapon Fighting already build in, it could have used one of those liberated weapons.
Would it have done well enough in both contests? Can't say for sure. I really wish I did finish it in time.Chairman emeritus for Zinc Saucier.
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I tried so hard to make a monstrous entry, but I just couldn't get it to come together in a way I liked. I'm fairly happy with my entry, and I actually had some of the same misgivings about it that Troacctid did.
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For ease of reference...
- Derleth Cruestus: CN Human Rogue 2/Truenamer 4/Binder 4/Acolyte of the Ego 10
- Sabine Murkwoods: LE Illumian Psychic Rogue 5/Inquisitor 4/Binder 1/Acolyte of the Ego 10
- Benjamin Nutt: TN Human Human Paragon 1/Monk 2/Fighter 3/Telflammar Shadowlord 4/Acolyte of the Ego 10
- The Slender Shadow: LN Dragonborn Lesser Tiefling Truenamer 1/Monk 2/Wizard 1/Acolyte of the Ego 10/Swordsage 2/Telflammar Shadowlord 4
- Astraea Theodosia: ?? Kalashtar Swashbuckler 3/Monk 3/Acolyte of the Ego 10/Exemplar 1/Uncanny Trickster 3
I haven't read the other judge's awesomely speedy scores so as not to sway my own (which will be much slower coming), so someone else will need to do that if you want a standings table before my scores. Speaking of, sakuuya, what's our new judging deadline? Two weeks from when the builds were posted?
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I would have gone with an 8/6 split. As long as you're not finishing Acolyte of the Ego, you might as well stop at the more natural break point, right? Not sure how Intimidate helps, though--Cadence of the Frightful Mind goes straight to the highest level of fear, so you can't stack it further.
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Scores!
Name Judge Troacctid Total Score Benjamin Nutt 13 13 The Slender Shadow 13 13 Sabine Murkwoods 12.5 12.5 Astrea Theodosia 12 12 Derleth Cruestus 9 9 Last edited by Muggins; 2014-10-16 at 07:12 PM.
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I might as well put these here...
My Criteria
SpoilerEach entry will start at a base score of 12 (3 in each category), with deductions or bonuses awarded based on the following questions:
SpoilerOriginality:
- Does the entry present a compelling backstory, concept, or theme aside from the mechanics of the build?
- Does the entry enter the Secret Ingredient through a method unique from the sample character in the source as well as other entries in this round?
- Does the entry make use of any unique mechanical tricks/feat chains?
- Does the entry avoid known cheese and overused optimization suggestions?
Power:
- Does the entry surpass a hypothetical build that continues in the base class used for qualification (i.e. does the entry follow established breakpoints for base classes or make a compelling case for the breakpoint selected)?
- Does the entry function at the same power level throughout an entire adventuring day, rather than relying on "nova" powers or limited resources?
- Does the entry thrive without an undue emphasis on items, templates, or other "add-ons" for its power?
- Does the entry contribute significantly in terms of offense, defense, and utility? Here an answer of "No" denotes that the build thrives in one or fewer of those three categories, "yes and no" denotes that the build thrives in two of those three categories, and "yes" denotes that the build wins the elusive triple crown--pulling its weight in terms of all three of those categories.
Elegance:
- Does the entry qualify for all classes taken outside the Secret Ingredient?
- Does the entry qualify for all feats taken?
- Does the entry avoid reliance on any questionable rules interpretations, as well as providing a list of source material while avoiding cross-setting material or material specifically disallowed from this competition?
- Does the entry avoid multi-class penalties and dipping* more than once?
UoSI:
- Does the entry qualify for the Secret Ingredient and make use of all entry requirements?
- Does the entry complete the Secret Ingredient or present a compelling reason why not doing so is actually a better use of the Secret Ingredient?
- Does the entry synergize the unique mechanical abilities of the Secret Ingredient with the rest of the build and/or present a novel use of said mechanical abilities?
- Does the entry complement the background, concept, or theme of its chassis through use of the Secret Ingredient?
*Where "dipping" is defined as taking two or fewer levels in a base class or prestige class.
Each of the questions above can be answered in one of three ways. A straight "yes" will earn a +0.5 bonus to the category in question. A straight "no" will suffer a -0.5 penalty to the category, and an ambivalent "yes and no" will wash out with no adjustment to the category. Other scoring rules (like a flat -1 penalty per Flaw used, for instance) will be followed as requested by the Chairman in the thread. If there are any questions about the clarity of my criteria in general, please post them openly so I can address. If there are any disagreements with particular scores, please PM the chairman as part of the regular dispute process.