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    Both is preferrable.

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    (What Haruki said. I'll keep my pm box emptyish (new word) and have all pm's backed up on Gmail.)
    "see the little angels rise up high, how do they rise up, rise up, how do they rise up high?"


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    Night ending, figuring out the inputs -

    I have to say I love all of you guys. Some of these are hilarious - and the Halloween Treat will be showing a pm by pm input of the game as we go.

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    Note to anonymous question #1 - If you make a QT (which you can) (whatever that is) and I find out about it (or the agents of the Censor) - then they (I) would probably try to wipe all active players out in a daytime attack.

    Meaning, if I get rumors or evidence of a player, they would probably get added to the casualties of a day activity.

    This game is a little different, as each player has the ability to counter or influence the Narrator as well - but every player has counter goals for their own personal win conditions.
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    These were night actions by Clans - They are posted in Most Recent down to the First Inputs (Make Sense?) Last inputs are on top, first inputs are on the bottom.

    It was correctly pointed out that I HAD these in a wrong order, almost reversed.

    Unnamed Protaganist Grew Stronger
    Clan Aged Banana Picklers Grew Stronger
    Haestingas Grew Stronger
    Paradise of Pretty Petunias Grew Stronger
    Correct Horse Battery Staple Sent in a Geisha
    Clan Sassoon Grew Stronger
    Teriyaki Killers Association Grew Stronger
    Sakura no Yoru/Cherry Blossom Night Grew Stronger
    Big Captain Panda Bribed Local Officials
    Team Unhygienic Panda Grew Stronger
    Captain Underpants Grew Stronger
    Golden Lllama Clan Grew Stronger
    Phantom Demon's Echo Grew Stronger
    The Cybernetic Anachronists Grew Stronger
    Llama's Exploding Shadow Grew Stronger
    The Beifong Clan Sent in a Geisha
    Kleptomaniac Pencil Waffles Grew Stronger
    Jumping Jehoshaphats Grew Stronger
    Failed Aviators Grew Stronger
    Other Order of Onmitsu Grew Stronger
    Spirits of the Silver Moon Grew Stronger
    Guilt Eating Panda Grew Stronger
    2 Fortress Team Grew Stronger
    Shôya Sushi Stormlords Grew Stronger
    Spooky Scary Skeletons Grew Stronger
    Hanzo Grew Stronger
    Taxmen Grew Stronger
    Disciples of Sashos Grew Stronger
    Clan Sandan Clan Bribed Local Officials
    The Fluffy Unicorns Grew Stronger
    Watashi wa pai ga suki Grew Stronger
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    Ok, some cool things happened last night phase, and I need to get out results as soon as I can work them through in the next hour.

    I need to explain how the recruiting works for those that have - and were recruited. It's enough players and was in the rules that I listed were in the game - so here goes:

    Let's say that Ten players use recruiting in the night phase.
    Inputs are taken in order they were received - so in this example - each player number is the order that I took the inputs.

    1. Clan Name Alpha - Player Apple
    2. Clan Name Bravo - Player Ben
    3. Clan Name Charlie - Player Chuck
    4. Clan Name Delta - Player David
    5. Clan Name Echo - Player Ed
    6. Clan Name Foxtrot - Player Frank
    7. Clan Name Golf - George
    8. Clan Name - Hotel - Hank
    9. Clan Name - Indigo - Player - Iago
    10. Clan Name - Juliet - Player Juan

    So - from these players - complete mash of inputs:
    1. Clan Name Alpha - Player Apple - Recruits Iago
    2. Clan Name Bravo - Player Ben - Recruits David
    3. Clan Name Charlie - Player Chuck - Recruits Iago
    4. Clan Name Delta - Player David - Recruits Ed
    5. Clan Name Echo - Player Ed - Recruits David
    6. Clan Name Foxtrot - Player Frank - Recruits Juan
    7. Clan Name Golf - George - Recruits David
    8. Clan Name - Hotel - Hank - Recruits Iago
    9. Clan Name - Indigo - Player - Recruits Juan
    10. Clan Name - Juliet - Player Juan - Recruits Iago

    Ok then -
    1. Clan Alpha is now:
    Apple (Clan Leader)
    Iago

    2. Clan Bravo is now:
    Ben (Clan Leader)
    David

    Things get interesting:
    3. Clan Name Charlie - Player Chuck - Recruits Iago
    This means clan Apple has been merged with Clan Charlie.

    This is how things look now:
    1. Chuck (Clan Leader)
    2. Iago
    3. Apple



    But - If Chuck get's killed, may become clan leader if the other players support - or Apple may try to force Iago to revert back to Clan Alpa.

    But things get more interesting:

    4. Clan Name Delta - Player David - Recruits Ed
    Delta is now:
    1. David (Clan Leader)
    2. Ed



    5. Clan Name Echo - Player Ed - Recruits David
    But Ed now recruits for Clan Delta.... so this actually means that they switch places

    Clan Delta now looks like this:
    1. Ed (Clan Leader)
    2. David


    6. Clan Name Foxtrot - Player Frank - Recruits Juan
    Foxtrot is
    1. Frank (Clan Leader)
    2. Juan



    7. Clan Name Golf - George - Recruits David
    Again things are interesting:
    David has again jumped places -
    Golf is:
    1. George
    2. David
    3. Ed



    If George were to die - the players would have to decide if they were to stay with David in charge of Clan Golf, or revert back to Clan Delta with Ed in charge

    Ok, back to the other clans:
    8. Clan Name - Hotel - Hank - Recruits Iago
    Clan Hotel - Hank has recruited Iago
    So now Clan Hotel is:
    1. Hank (Clan Leader)
    2. Iago
    3. Chuck
    4. Apple


    9. Clan Name - Indigo - Player - Iago - Recruits Juan

    Iago no longer recruits for Indigo - he now recruits for Clan Hotel.

    When he recruits Juan, this is the new order:

    1. Hank (Clan Leader)
    2. Iago
    3. Juan
    4. Chuck
    5. Apple


    10. Clan Name - Juliet - Player Juan - Recruits Iago
    Finally - Juliet recruits Iago (very popular). But Julio Also no recruits for Clan Hotel.

    Clan Hotel now looks like this:
    1. Hank (Clan Leader)
    2. Juan
    3. Iago
    4. Chuck
    5. Apple


    Essentially, Iago now has given loyalty to Juan if something were to happen.

    In other words - if you recruit *within* a clan, they other player - your recruit - is now placed below you in line.

    All of these actions have happened last night, and I have to get to work - so it's hard to get all these actions out in the next hour.

    I will send out updates in about 12 hours, there *is* a chance that several players that haven't gotten inputs in *could* get actions -

    Inputting clan names isn't your action - that was homework *before* the start of Night 1, so if you don't have an action - then you might want to send it.

    Otherwise - please role play until I'm able to get the night updates made.
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    My only criticism is that I think you've forgotten your phonetic alphabet (Apple instead of Adam, C'mon!)
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    That is the most insanely, gloriously complicated recruitment mechanic I've ever seen.
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    Just wait, there's even more to come - there's nothing saying you can't commit actions against your own team members... Night Kill, lying about scrys, private negotiations...

    If you want the ultimate prize - the one winner over all winners, you're probably going to have to get your hands a little bloody.
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    So (paraphrased) "night actions occur in the order they were recieved."
    Doesn't this mean that recruitment should be done last to first? Otherwise getting your action in early is actually a detriment. I'm better off waiting until the very last moment.
    If I get my action in immediately, like immediately upon nightfall, and recruit Haruki, I should be te clan leader. But now someone can just come along ten seconds before dawn and recruit me and now my attention to timing to keep my position was wasted.
    Seems like a flaw that I'm better off waiting until the last moment to recruit when every other night action it's better to get it in immediately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    So (paraphrased) "night actions occur in the order they were recieved."
    Doesn't this mean that recruitment should be done last to first? Otherwise getting your action in early is actually a detriment. I'm better off waiting until the very last moment.
    If I get my action in immediately, like immediately upon nightfall, and recruit Haruki, I should be te clan leader. But now someone can just come along ten seconds before dawn and recruit me and now my attention to timing to keep my position was wasted.
    Seems like a flaw that I'm better off waiting until the last moment to recruit when every other night action it's better to get it in immediately.
    I think it helps make up for the fact that some people's schedules will make them always have later actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    If I get my action in immediately, like immediately upon nightfall, and recruit Haruki, I should be te clan leader. But now someone can just come along ten seconds before dawn and recruit me and now my attention to timing to keep my position was wasted.
    Seems like a flaw that I'm better off waiting until the last moment to recruit when every other night action it's better to get it in immediately.
    While the system does encourage slow balling your actions, this example doesn't actually work because you'd be boned either way. Whether they recruit you early or late in the night you still end up being under them. Now if they were to recruit HARUKI, on the other hand, this is a valid point - if you posted first, you recruit Haruki, they recruit Haruki, then they get control over you due to how borg assimilation recruitment works. But if you entered your action last and they recruited Haruki, you'd get Haruki AND them under you because of how recruitment travels.

    I think. It is kind of a cluster fudge . I'm kind of surprised everyone has recruitment abilities to be honest. It makes me wonder if there are even ninjas here at all or it's just every samurai for themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Internet Flea View Post
    I think it helps make up for the fact that some people's schedules will make them always have later actions.
    But the reverse is also true.
    People that can't conform to that shedule are penalized.
    Not that it really matters much. I mean, it's just a game. It just seems odd that every night action happens by order of operation, but that in essence screws recruitment to a backward state.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis Dread View Post
    While the system does encourage slow balling your actions, this example doesn't actually work because you'd be boned either way. Whether they recruit you early or late in the night you still end up being under them. Now if they were to recruit HARUKI, on the other hand, this is a valid point - if you posted first, you recruit Haruki, they recruit Haruki, then they get control over you due to how borg assimilation recruitment works. But if you entered your action last and they recruited Haruki, you'd get Haruki AND them under you because of how recruitment travels.

    I think. It is kind of a cluster fudge . I'm kind of surprised everyone has recruitment abilities to be honest. It makes me wonder if there are even ninjas here at all or it's just every samurai for themselves.
    Exactly. I grabbed 'Ruki first, and I'm third in line now, or whatever.
    It just seems extremely counterintuitive to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    But the reverse is also true.
    People that can't conform to that shedule are penalized.
    Not that it really matters much. I mean, it's just a game. It just seems odd that every night action happens by order of operation, but that in essence screws recruitment to a backward state.
    Early birds benefit more from non-recruitment actions. Unbalanced equality.

    Besides, as far as I can tell there's nothing stopping you from recruiting your clan leader the next night. This game is gong to be pure chaos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Internet Flea View Post
    Early birds benefit more from non-recruitment actions. Unbalanced equality.

    Besides, as far as I can tell there's nothing stopping you from recruiting your clan leader the next night. This game is gong to be pure chaos.
    I don't really care anyway. I'm one of the few people that didn't recruit last night, so I'm already behind the eight ball and became someone's prison b*&#h apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Internet Flea View Post
    Early birds benefit more from non-recruitment actions. Unbalanced equality.

    Besides, as far as I can tell there's nothing stopping you from recruiting your clan leader the next night. This game is gong to be pure chaos.
    ...huh, I didn't even think about that. Those who are wolves can probably just kill someone before they can recruit, and then the recruitment won't resolve. If it's an action and not vote based, I have no idea. On the other hand, villager actions like scrying and baning are kind of timing neutral at least, so at least we aren't PUNISHED for going early/later. Unless baning doesn't work if someone issues a kill command before hand, which would be... mean.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    I don't really care anyway. I'm one of the few people that didn't recruit last night, so I'm already behind the eight ball and became someone's prison b*&#h apparently.
    Actually that might work in your favor - if you have no underlings, they can't recruit you through osmosis. Though they could have just recruited you directly, but that would have happened no matter what in that case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis Dread View Post
    Unless baning doesn't work if someone issues a kill command before hand, which would be... mean.
    He's said it's strictly the order received. But I think banes carry over in this game, so if you baned yourself tonight you'd be unkillable tomorrow. Not that anybody did. (What are the odds the Geisha got 'We Grow Stonger' as the scried action? )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis Dread View Post
    While the system does encourage slow balling your actions, this example doesn't actually work because you'd be boned either way. Whether they recruit you early or late in the night you still end up being under them. Now if they were to recruit HARUKI, on the other hand, this is a valid point - if you posted first, you recruit Haruki, they recruit Haruki, then they get control over you due to how borg assimilation recruitment works. But if you entered your action last and they recruited Haruki, you'd get Haruki AND them under you because of how recruitment travels.

    I think. It is kind of a cluster fudge . I'm kind of surprised everyone has recruitment abilities to be honest. It makes me wonder if there are even ninjas here at all or it's just every samurai for themselves.
    WE GROW STRONGER encourages slow balling, but what about the Arts of Death?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Fairchilde View Post
    WE GROW STRONGER encourages slow balling, but what about the Arts of Death?
    The what of what? I don't think we all got the same roles. I mean it IS samurai vs ninja, albeit a very messed up version. Some of us are samurai and some of us are ninja, so we must have different power sets.

    Speaking of which - outed ninja! We have a lynch target!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
    I don't really care anyway. I'm one of the few people that didn't recruit last night, so I'm already behind the eight ball and became someone's prison b*&#h apparently.
    Maybe I misread the rules, but I didn't take that as the situation when you recruit a player.
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    I am so confused.
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    Well this is going to be a glorious train wreck.
    The best pat is going to be when it turns out Clans don't actually mean anything and all this convoluted craziness is actually pointless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Internet Flea View Post
    The best pat is going to be when it turns out Clans don't actually mean anything and all this convoluted craziness is actually pointless.
    Clans matter, for those in clans which is everyone, because of the win condition to equal or exceed the rest of the players in the game. We haven't even had night kills yet from those with the ability.

    As for anyone recruiting themselves... I think there's a functionality there that can be worked into the game.
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    Night ends, trying to get all the inputs out - at least the clans and the other actions will be sent before bed. I'll update this post when day starts.


    Day 2 Begins. It will last at least 48 hours - I wanted it to end with Halloween, but alas tis not to be this year. (I owe too many inputs for players.)

    Many or all of you should have updates.

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    There really isn't anything to go off, but I'll just point at Logic because we don't need any of that around here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuthalion View Post
    There really isn't anything to go off, but I'll just point at Logic because we don't need any of that around here.
    And I thought I was going to like you!

    Right now my plans require Tanar to go, or I'd be go for a Cuth bandwagon.
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    Voting Lex-Kat early has never led to my immediate and horrible death.
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    I actually have two theories on why you're doing this, but neither make much sense and you would have to be insane to try them. It seems you are insane, which is great for my theories.
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    I see your point, Internet Flea. However, I don't retract my assessment of your sanity.
    What kind of paranoid mind sees that as something else. ~ The Narrator, during Stranded in Space.


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    Is no-one else freaked out by the fact that Nonayer is still around despite having been thoroughly lynched yesterday? Finish the job!

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