Erfworld thread IV: In memory of King Saline

[Killer Angel]

Aye, I'm in the same boat. There's just so much more for detail/story in Forecastle's story than the main story at the moment.

Yep, Forecastle's cliffhanger is... more cliffy.

[Winterwind]

Aye, I'm in the same boat. There's just so much more for detail/story in Forecastle's story than the main story at the moment.

I'd say, there's just so much more for detail/story in text updates than comic updates when it comes to Erfworld in general. Which is why I'm saddened that Book 3 has the text-comic ratio that it does (two text updates out of 26 so far), rather than the one Book 2 had (which, without counting, was about half-half, or maybe even with more text than comic updates).

[Ravenlord]

The (IMHO) horrible art doesn't help matters either. At least I could imagine my own art when I was reading the text...

[Kornaki]

Similar to Lady Silvia (who died twice in two fires), ...

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...it looks like Queen Jillian is dying to a branch (avoiding Olive Branch's death by Charlie's intervention).

Given his own history, Charlie must be terrified of Hippymancers.

This is amazing.

[TheWombatOfDoom]

Aye, I'm in the same boat. There's just so much more for detail/story in Forecastle's story than the main story at the moment.

Heh. I see what you did there. Boat. *snicker*

[Lizard Lord]

Honestly, I''m thinking Jamie should just turn Erfworld into a series of novels. I get the feeling most (though not all) would enjoy it more that way.

[Kaptin Keen]

Spoiler: dum de dum...

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And what's more, Ansom is immediately recaptured. Was there any point to this skirmish? Like, at all?

A point?

I don't really see this ending without one side ending. Either Faq or Gobwin Knob. And since Faq was just reformed, I rather suspect the Tool is going to croak, and our heroes will go barbarian. Presumably, this is the whole point of them being in the magic kingdom. And the point of the Dig Dug story line.

I dunno?! =)

[Welf]

Similar to Lady Silvia (who died twice in two fires), ...

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...it looks like Queen Jillian is dying to a branch (avoiding Olive Branch's death by Charlie's intervention).

I like that idea.

A point?

I don't really see this ending without one side ending. Either Faq or Gobwin Knob. And since Faq was just reformed, I rather suspect the Tool is going to croak, and our heroes will go barbarian. Presumably, this is the whole point of them being in the magic kingdom. And the point of the Dig Dug story line.

I dunno?! =)

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There is also the possibility that Jillian gets captured, and Stanley still can leave the hex and return home (or to the new capital).

[ryuplaneswalker]

A point?

I don't really see this ending without one side ending. Either Faq or Gobwin Knob. And since Faq was just reformed, I rather suspect the Tool is going to croak, and our heroes will go barbarian. Presumably, this is the whole point of them being in the magic kingdom. And the point of the Dig Dug story line.

I dunno?! =)

That reduces problems for Parson though, without a side to worry over Parson can focus fully on Charlie and honestly I think Stanley needs some more character development before and if he dies.

[Legato Endless]

I like that idea.

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There is also the possibility that Jillian gets captured, and Stanley still can leave the hex and return home (or to the new capital).

That would certainly give her heir something to do when they pop.

[Anteros]

Honestly, I''m thinking Jamie should just turn Erfworld into a series of novels. I get the feeling most (though not all) would enjoy it more that way.

I honestly don't feel like his writing is strong enough for that. Then again, given the number of people who actually seem to like the text updates somehow, I guess I'm in the minority.

[HalfTangible]

Honestly, I''m thinking Jamie should just turn Erfworld into a series of novels. I get the feeling most (though not all) would enjoy it more that way.

imo the text updates are not strong enough to stand on their own, not without the images to give us visual clues as to Erfworld's nature. I miss most of the jokes in text updates until someone else brings 'em up.

And this is from someone who DOES like the text updates.

[Yana]

The problem with relying on the visual cues to get the joke is that the visuals actually have to convey those cues. Thus far, pretty much every character drawn by the new artist looks like this -_-. There's not much that can be done with a cast of perpetually frowning characters.

[HalfTangible]

The problem with relying on the visual cues to get the joke is that the visuals actually have to convey those cues. Thus far, pretty much every character drawn by the new artist

Stop.

I'm not debating on the new art or whether it's any good - I'm talking about the text updates on their own.

[Rogar Demonblud]

That would certainly give her heir something to do when they pop.

If memory serves, the ruler being captured means the side freezes, which means no heir.

[Legato Endless]

If memory serves, the ruler being captured means the side freezes, which means no heir.

Ah right. Which means Jillian has to avoid capture this turn. It's been something in excess of 34 turns that unit has been gestating, and part of that boosted by a turnamancer. How much longer can this take? It really makes Slatley popping two dozenish kids look extraordinaryly wasteful even given how long he was king.

Edit: Total time for Faq is 60 turns...which means we've still got more than 20 turns before popping. So maybe we won't see the heir after all. Pity, I was kind of looking forward to Jillian being trolled by her likely ideologically differing progeny.

[NEO|Phyte]

It really makes Slatley popping two dozenish kids look extraordinaryly wasteful even given how long he was king.

IIRC not all nobles/royals are specifically popped, they can also randomly pop.

[Aquillion]

It's just hard to see Stanley surviving simply because the narrative has gone to such lengths to get every single named character on their side into the Magic Kingdom, including every significant Decrypted. It's really really really hard to believe that it would've gone to such lengths to put them in the one place where they would be able to continue acting without good reason.

[Anteros]

I certainly hope Stanley survives. He's basically the only likable person out of our protagonists.

[memnarch]

I certainly hope Stanley survives. He's basically the only likable person out of our protagonists.

I dunno, I find Jack and Parson enjoyable even if Parson basically gets screwed over by the plot and can't do much. Stanley is pretty unique though with the characterization he's had.

[Bird]

He hasn't had much to do recently, but I find Sizemore to be relateable. Certainly, his compassion and sense of ethics exceed the rest of the GK bunch (though Parson is close at times).

I actually have some amount of affection for everybody on Stanley's side. Even Wanda I like for being the charismatic crazy intermittently insightful person that she is. (My favorite line in all of Erfworld was probably her response to Parson when he claimed he didn't lose: "You did! And it has just begun for you.")

Though, I admit that most my positive feelings are based on things that happened in Book 1. Stanley and Jack are the two who come to mind as becoming more likeable since then.

[ti'esar]

I'd just like to stop in here for a moment to note that I finally got the title of this thread today.

[ryuplaneswalker]

I'd just like to stop in here for a moment to note that I finally got the title of this thread today.

so on a scale of 1-10 how bad did the pun hurt?

[ti'esar]

so on a scale of 1-10 how bad did the pun hurt?

Strictly speaking, I'm not sure that actually qualifies as a pun.

[Narkis]

Wait, there's a pun on the title? I don't get it.

[Welf]

Ah right. Which means Jillian has to avoid capture this turn. It's been something in excess of 34 turns that unit has been gestating, and part of that boosted by a turnamancer. How much longer can this take? It really makes Slatley popping two dozenish kids look extraordinaryly wasteful even given how long he was king.

Edit: Total time for Faq is 60 turns...which means we've still got more than 20 turns before popping. So maybe we won't see the heir after all. Pity, I was kind of looking forward to Jillian being trolled by her likely ideologically differing progeny.

I didn't read it up, but I think it normally takes 60 turns to pop a heir, but with a turnamancer it's only 40 turns. So it should be close.

I think they pop royal heirs and normal royal warlords like Tremanis. It's not confirmed, but I would assume non-heir warlords would take less time to pop. Popping heirs is also maybe a good way to reduce the amount of units produced when your not in war and get to your limit.

[Landis963]

Wait, there's a pun on the title? I don't get it.

King Saline of Gobwin Knob was the fourth of his name, called "King Saline IV." Hence, it is only fitting that thread four (IV in roman numerals) is dedicated to his memory.

[Radar]

(...) It really makes Slatley popping two dozenish kids look extraordinaryly wasteful even given how long he was king. (...)

A royal unit is not the same thing as an heir. An heir can either be popped (which takes humongous ammount of turns) or promoted (which takes humongous ammounts of schmuckers). Tramennis was not an heir until the battle of Spacerock. I'm not sure, whether Ansom or Ossomer were heirs or not.

[memnarch]

Wait, there's a pun on the title? I don't get it.

Last two panels for where the pun is from.

[Narkis]

I see now. I'd forgotten King Saline was the 4th. Thanks guys.