[3.5] Need help with a Cleric

[Omnisandro]

Jozan the 12th-level cleric wants to Persist some buffs. He has a Charisma of 14, the Extra Turning feat, a Reliquiary Holy Symbol, and a Nightstick, for a total of (3+2+4+1+4)= 14 turn attempts. So, the day before he goes adventuring, he casts Extended Divine Power from a fifth-level slot, and augments it using Divine Metamagic (Persistent Spell) by spending seven turning attempts (6 from persistent's spell level adjustment, plus 1 for divine metamagic). The spell's duration is 24*2=48 hours. He then casts Extended Recitation as another fifth-level spell, and persists that using seven more turn attempts.

The next day, before the party sets out to go adventuring, Jozan still has Divine Favor and Recitation active. He then uses his fourteen turning attempts for the new day to cast Extended Righteous Might as a sixth-level slot, apply Persistent Spell to it using DMM, and then doing the same with Extended Mass Lesser Vigor as a fourth-level slot. Now he has a BAB of +12/+7/+2, a +3 luck bonus to AC, attack rolls, and saves, a total of +10 to Strength and +2 to Constitution, +2 natural armor, fast healing 1, and DR 6/evil. His allies also have fast healing 1, and a +2 luck bonus to AC, attacks, and saves.

He has also used up all of his daily turning attempts. Mialee criticizes him for this, asking him what he'll do if they encounter undead, to which Jozan responds with a sly grin. Later that day, the meet a powerful vampire lord, and Jozan crushes him to a pulp in two rounds by with his mace (+20/+15/+10 to hit, damage 2d6+6), while shrugging off the vampire's attacks due to his increase AC, his damage reduction, and the fast healing. Krusk is overcome with jealousy and starts a Tumblr so he can anonymously vent to teenagers online.

Oh sweet jesus, i can feel the tears of the Warrior already.

[Omnisandro]

Guys, i have it all figured out except for Race choice.

Human ( Extra Turning ) or Lesser Aasimar ( Ability bonuses )

[Extra Anchovies]

Guys, i have it all figured out except for Race choice.

Human ( Extra Turning ) or Lesser Aasimar ( Ability bonuses )

Go with Human for Extra Turning. Remember, every full seven turn attempts you have you can have two more persistent-extended buffs up. Extra Turning + Cha modifier of 2 or higher + nightstick + reliquary holy symbol = four buffs exactly, and is very easily achievable. +2 Wisdom is maybe one bonus spell (and you can get by without the increase to save, and +2 Charisma is only one more turning attempt.

[Omnisandro]

Go with Human for Extra Turning. Remember, every full seven turn attempts you have you can have two more persistent-extended buffs up. Extra Turning + Cha modifier of 2 or higher + nightstick + reliquary holy symbol = four buffs exactly, and is very easily achievable. +2 Wisdom is maybe one bonus spell (and you can get by without the increase to save, and +2 Charisma is only one more turning attempt.

So, somenthing like this to start?

STR= 14
DEX= 10
CON= 12
INT= 8
WIS= 15 ( 16 at level 4 )
CHA= 15


Also, i lose the spell per day charge normally while using DMM and paying with turns, right?

[Extra Anchovies]

So, somenthing like this to start?

STR= 14
DEX= 10
CON= 12
INT= 8
WIS= 15 ( 16 at level 4 )
CHA= 15


Also, i lose the spell per day charge normally while using DMM and paying with turns, right?

You don't need to 15 in Charisma; odd scores don't help much, your ability increases will be going into Wisdom, and you can always pick up a Cloak of Charisma or Belt of Magnificence. I would suggest:

STR 12
DEX 10
CON 12
INT 10
WIS 16
CHA 14

Str doesn't need to be super high; you'll be getting +10 from buffs (+6 enhancement from Divine Power, +4 size from Righteous Might). Without the Int penalty you can max ranks in Concentration and Spellcraft while having a few on the side for other skills (Knowledge [Relgion] or something). If you don't care about skill points, I would recommend changing Int to 8 and Con to 14.

[Omnisandro]

You don't need to 15 in Charisma; odd scores don't help much, your ability increases will be going into Wisdom, and you can always pick up a Cloak of Charisma or Belt of Magnificence. I would suggest:

STR 12
DEX 10
CON 12
INT 10
WIS 16
CHA 14

Str doesn't need to be super high; you'll be getting +10 from buffs (+6 enhancement from Divine Power, +4 size from Righteous Might). Without the Int penalty you can max ranks in Concentration and Spellcraft while having a few on the side for other skills (Knowledge [Relgion] or something). If you don't care about skill points, I would recommend changing Int to 8 and Con to 14.

I need 13 ST for Power Attack through

[Extra Anchovies]

I need 13 ST for Power Attack through

Ah yes, I keep forgetting that prerequisite. Str 13, Int 9, maybe? Then if you find later on that you want skill points, you can increase Int, and if you want more fighty-fighty stuff, you can increase Str.

[Eonir]

Ah yes, I keep forgetting that prerequisite. Str 13, Int 9, maybe? Then if you find later on that you want skill points, you can increase Int, and if you want more fighty-fighty stuff, you can increase Str.

Zenthryi (MM2) are another Planetouched race who can be "lesser". They are +2 str, wis, dex, -2 cha. Great cleric race.

The Planetouched Handbook if you're curious.

[Omnisandro]

Zenthryi (MM2) are another Planetouched race who can be "lesser". They are +2 str, wis, dex, -2 cha. Great cleric race.

The Planetouched Handbook if you're curious.

Cannot use that book.
Even if i could, i would not be able to roleplay that race.

[Eonir]

Cannot use that book.
Even if i could, i would not be able to roleplay that race.

Oh my bad. This is probably for the better anyways, Zenythri are exceptionally powerful.

[Omnisandro]

Oh my bad. This is probably for the better anyways, Zenythri are exceptionally powerful.

Yes, even i can tell bonus to 3 attributes is too much.
Still, charisma penalty would not be optimal for my build.

[Gullintanni]

I need 13 ST for Power Attack through

STR 14
DEX 10
CON 12
INT 8
WIS 16
CHA 14

or

STR 14
DEX 8
CON 14
INT 8
WIS 16
CHA 14

...bonuses to AC are pretty easy to come by for a DMM cleric, so low dex shouldn't be an issue. I'd pick one of those as my stat array. Matter of preference at this point.

[Omnisandro]

STR 14
DEX 10
CON 12
INT 8
WIS 16
CHA 14

or

STR 14
DEX 8
CON 14
INT 8
WIS 16
CHA 14

...bonuses to AC are pretty easy to come by for a DMM cleric, so low dex shouldn't be an issue. I'd pick one of those as my stat array. Matter of preference at this point.

Yeah, i'm going with the first one already.
We got a Bard, so skills wont be a problem.