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Re: EMPIRE! CWBG IX: We Keep Score With Bragging Rights! Many Prowess, Such Revolutio
The one in thread VIII is so far behind that I'd rather just leave it, though there is that handful that hasn't been updated to the Lands thread yet. The Lands thread version of the region list is also a small bit behind at the same time. If someone would be willing to at least find out which of the two lists is more up to date where and reconcile those differences then I could take it from there.
One step short of shouting "for the Emperor!" in the voice of a Space Marine.
If the Imperium did not have a sizeable amount of good dwarven citizens, I'd almost rechristen the Salterri Imperium as the Imperium of Man.
As for power armor: the armor is the easy part, but I figure most people going for power armor have the power part not really be the armor getting powered, rather more the person inside deriving power from the armor instead.
Besides, all the developments, tech or otherwise, that I had in mind for the Salterri--both on my own and devised with Rizban--could easily be explained with good reason by going Tellurian Spiral Power.
On a more serious bust just as truthful level, I did advertise Empire way at the beginning in several threads, including the Warhammer 40K, World of Darkness and Exalted threads. This because it'd be more interesting to also have some influences from those rather than merely D&D and human history.Homebrewer's Signature | Avatar by Strawberries
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2014-10-12, 02:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: EMPIRE! CWBG IX: We Keep Score With Bragging Rights! Many Prowess, Such Revolutio
You know, it didn't really bother me until I started listening to skeptic conferences and blogs, but these days I'm getting increasingly annoyed by the whole notion of magic tech. When you combine methodological reasoning and experimentation with lucid dream logic word salad, you just wind up with lucid dream logic word salad that wears the trappings of something that makes actual sense.
So, you want "Magitech Powered Armor"? Sure, that's easy enough, but you might just as well call it by its more common name, "An Enchanted Suit of Armour".Last edited by DoomHat; 2014-10-12 at 02:25 PM.
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Re: EMPIRE! CWBG IX: We Keep Score With Bragging Rights! Many Prowess, Such Revolutio
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Re: EMPIRE! CWBG IX: We Keep Score With Bragging Rights! Many Prowess, Such Revolutio
That's not necessarily fair. If the same magic can be used in the same way to accomplish the same effect on a consistent basis, it is absolutely a technology. It's just not one that exists in real life. Further, using "magical" materials with consistent properties in your technology would still be technological. For example, Glazfell has produced an innovation on plate armor that's somewhat more ergonomic than equivalent-period plate was in real life by trapping a layer of Cavor Oil into the hauberk. A little bit like attaching a large helium balloon to the helmet, except more evenly distributed over the body and less silly-looking. This could absolutely be described as magitech, given that it is technology that incorporates magic.
(You're right that just applying magic runes to armor sounds suspiciously like regular old enchantment, though.)
It probably has to do with our alliance. But that's fine. If Hurosha wants to alienate their old allies, that's fine by me.Last edited by BladeofObliviom; 2014-10-12 at 02:40 PM.
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2014-10-12, 02:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: EMPIRE! CWBG IX: We Keep Score With Bragging Rights! Many Prowess, Such Revolutio
Your quite close ties with the Glazfell and the Tzaltec. You haven't done anything to offend me directly no, and you've always been a staunch ally and a good friend, but bad emotions are brewing and Hurosha is getting nervous. So don't worry, you're not immediately cut off or anything :P.
What? But I got a sa......wait, Gwristin got a sandstone import. Eehh....hhmmm. That means Kasumor does not have sewers. Redirecting Sandstone import this round. Gwistin can make its sewer out of Quartz or something.Last edited by WaylanderX; 2014-10-12 at 02:41 PM.
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Re: EMPIRE! CWBG IX: We Keep Score With Bragging Rights! Many Prowess, Such Revolutio
OH THE HUGE MANATEE!
In all serieusness though, nothing is certain yet. And I do not want to make you mad OC, I like Rping with you.
Btw, Blade, I'm sending you a letter tomorrow. Just a small notice in a nutshell:
Spoiler: Blade OnlyBasically, Wayve is going to disagree your proposal to come to your lands. Instead he is going to propose a more neutral ground to discuss things. He will probably propose either Guilder or one of Lyradis' regions. Would your ruler agree to such a thing?Last edited by WaylanderX; 2014-10-12 at 02:45 PM.
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...Wait, isn't Gwistin where the Meinhirin are from? Do they even need to poop?
Eh, OOC anger shmanger. We're all friends here, and trying to murder you/burn cities down IC does not mean I dislike you, nor am I so attached to my ivory tower that I would fly into a rage were the same done to me.
SpoilerGuilder most likely, given that Sam's more active and more likely to consent as a host. But yes, she might be persuaded to show up so long as the letter is halfway respectful.Last edited by BladeofObliviom; 2014-10-12 at 05:55 PM.
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2014-10-12, 03:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: EMPIRE! CWBG IX: We Keep Score With Bragging Rights! Many Prowess, Such Revolutio
Here you go. I used Wombat's list as it's more up-to-date although there are a lot of blank rows that might want to be removed. Also the way Wombat originally organised it, the links go to the main kingdom post rather than to the individual regions, but in some cases (mostly to do with Calorum and recent acquisitions from NPCs) the regions are actually spread across multiple posts in different threads so I've linked those to the region posts as appropriate.
Since Wombat's table didn't include a player column I've done a separate table indicating which player is in charge of what as well, which might be easier to keep updated anyway.
Spoiler: TablesA region number with an A after the number is an aboveground region that has another region situation below them, an underground region with the same number with a B (A for “above”, B for “below”).
Spoiler: Stuff Already DeterminedSome regions are already partially determined in what resources or terrain features they have. If you are a new player to the game, you may contact Morph to see if the resources may be waived so you can use all of your own ideas for it. (As a new player you always start with 3 resources, so if a region listed below has less than 3, you always gain extra to bring you up to 3.)
The explorers from Ri Chugang discover a small nation of northern city-states, possibly bordering the realm of the Old Imperium. It contains one Good resource of fibrous flame and one Good resource of tangled lightning, which the mystical masters of the cities produce. The region has 59000 inhabitants and it has 1000 soldiers it recently raised when refugees from the west came in.
Ri Chugang has also encountered a larger remnant of the Old Imperium that calls itself the Greatest Kingdom of Zuiguo. Two of its regions have been discovered, one in the west and one to the southwest, northwest of Nia Hai Nian. The northern of the pair borders the city-states and has one Good resource of aimoh, a soothing drink, and one Good resource of ban-terato. It has 121.000 inhabitants. The southern region has one Good resource of nightcrackle lichen, one Good resource of spirit crickets and 99000 inhabitants, primarily composed of Dùn, a tailless reptilian race with hard-shelled backs. Both regions have 5000 soldiers.
The Ashenian Cave Divers bring back reports of vast tunnel systems under Lacertia and Ashenia! Underneath Lacertia they find one Good undefined resource and have yet had little contact with natives, who shy away in the darkness, but by estimations (which are surprisingly exact) come to 34000. Underneath Ashenia they find no resources, unless you count human-like fossilized remains as resources.
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KingdomCapital RegionPlayerKingdom of Calorum (Hurosha Vassal) Calorum Chief Faedas Freehold (Hurosha Vassal) Yorukuni Reggiejam Kingdom of the Iron Doctrine AKA Sympolemou (Glazfell Vassal) Sympolemou NPC (Vassal) Nixdarum The Abyssian Sea Sorrcerousflux Hurosha Empire Kasumor WaylanderX Kingdom of Celero Celero Logic Triumvirate (Federation) Aloren QuintonBeck, ImperatorV, zabbarot Royal Council of Raaneka (Empire of Dawn Vassal) Raaneka NPC Kingdom of Serendel/Empire of Dawn Selyra TheWombatofDoom Guilderene Expanse (Empire of Dawn Vassal) Maos SamBurke Razdissi Underpire Razdis NPC Kingdom of the Silver Moon Valterre Lord_Burch Kingdom of Ashenia Ashenia Elemental Tyranny of New Crima Crima DoomHat Ancestral Quill Unification Alliance (AQUA) The Jewelled Cities lt_murgen Salterri Imperium (Heartlands) Aus-Teire Morph Bark Imperial Alydaxian Dominion Alydaxis moossabi Priory of Ascension Salteire NPC Sovereign Principality of Niskovia Niskovia Kitsanth Holy Kingdom of Sycia (Glazfell Vassal) Sycia NPC Glazfelli Hegemony Glazfell BladeofObliviom Kingdom of Mularuhm (Salterri Vassal) Mularuhm RandoMan Kingdom of the Carmine Sea (Salterri Vassal) Jarrland Aedilred Caercian Consortium (Salterri Vassal) Palas Caercia DurkBlanston Grand Duchy of Pavonia Pavonia ReaderAt2046 Fera (Niskovia Vassal) Halja Rain Dragon (NPC?) Kingdom of the Broken Enclave The Broken Enclave NPC Kingdom of Sanglea Sanglea NPC Kingdom of Novrania Novrania MintyNinja Jomani Kralstvo Ri Chugang NPC Greatest Kingdom of Zuigou Unknown NPC Alzeroth Collective Alzeroth Sgt. Cookie
There are very possibly still some errors or broken links: if anyone spots one please let me know. I've put in the links to the original posts in OOC threads for the Priory regions since their Lands of Telluris posts are gone, so they might be a bit out of date but I have a backup (and it's all on the wiki) if necessary.
I haven't credited partial colonisations or conquests.
Well, Kasumor might have sewers, they'd just be made out of Shintouite
(What would the logistics be of using sandstones in sewers? Would there be an erosion problem? I ask mostly out of interest. Any geologists around?)
...This also occurred to me.
That picture is one of my favourite things ever to emerge from the internet. (I first saw it like eight years ago, but I'm always pleased to see it again).Last edited by Aedilred; 2014-10-13 at 08:38 AM.
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2014-10-12, 05:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: EMPIRE! CWBG IX: We Keep Score With Bragging Rights! Many Prowess, Such Revolutio
My involvement in 40k actually predates my D&D involvement. I was actually expecting at the start of the game that we would eventually reach that level (gradually of course). One of the reasons I've not been very active in the tech debate is I like both fantasy and higher tech levels.
The Triumvirate has actually been planning for power armor based on Hai Vyuma for a loooong time (although calling it power armor is a bit of a stretch, what we were thinking is more like a metal golem with a person piloting it). I have some other more sophisticated plans for Vyuma and Osuric magic in general as well (just ask Quinton or Zab about the genre term I made up).
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I've been looking forward to that as well... To be honest, right now it wouldn't be that hard, if you were willing to settle for an Edge-of-Tomorrow-Style power armor. Steam powered prosthetics can provide the intense strength that allows for more armor, then slap refrigeration on top for cooling, and bam, you've got the basic mech unit.
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Re: EMPIRE! CWBG IX: We Keep Score With Bragging Rights! Many Prowess, Such Revolutio
Hmm... An adamantium-iron core and the body of an alien demon both explain the observed phenomena... We can't be certain until people start studying seismic waves and use them to map the inner structure of Telluris.
Fair enough. Though I was only hypothesising that it made up a layer of the lowest part of the mantle. It's probably some other exotic rock or crystal down there instead.
I think we can all agree on that. I just like to speculate on its composition and we all know that adamantium is significantly more dense than more standard metals.
Hmm... Maybe Ashenia acted too hastily when it lifted the ban on Ashmarism within the borders of the Kingdom...
Short answer, yes.
Long answer, no because there was no dark magic involved in its creation. That we know of.
All in all, Ashenia is starting to look more and more sane than the people of the central continent as time progresses.
Quick! Get the imported smelling salts!
You're missing 22b and 45b, the first being Under Ashenia and as yet unnamed and the latter being Under Lacertia and known as Ascalaine and part of the Kingdom of Ashenia. I just haven't written up its description yet because I'm a lazy so and so.Mauve Shirt, Savannah, Gnomish Wanderer, Cuthalion and Smuchmuch get cookies for making me avatars. (::)
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There are still stories, but most of the demonization is attached to the Lord of Fire for doing the actual damage and Tendaji himself for being arrogant enough to so directly channel a deity. Most of the attitudes toward Radurja are pretty much what you'd expect in a monotheistic culture toward a syncretic polytheistic one. ("Yphine is just a bigger drop in the ocean? What poppycock!")
On a side note, Hroar didn't actually lose an eye. His face got burnt up pretty good, but he still had two functional eyes.
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Aedilred if you want to put that nation listing in this thread I'm finding it quite useful for tracking the various things we have going on. Might be nice to put the latest population by nation breakdown over there too if you still have it.
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Re: EMPIRE! CWBG IX: We Keep Score With Bragging Rights! Many Prowess, Such Revolutio
Ascalaine is part of Ashenia, but 22B is not. I'd like it to be, so if you feel like giving it to me through tabulation error, then by all means proceed.
Ashenia likewise opposes Radurja due to the hubris of its priesthood. They're responsible for a lot of innocent deaths (including at least one child) and if things continue, it's only a matter of time before some arrogant Radurjic King decides to raise up another deity or powerful spirit and get a whole bunch of people killed.
The prohibition on Radurjic thought and philosophy in Ashenia is as much a public safety thing as it is a means to stop the spread of a religion they consider blasphemous.Mauve Shirt, Savannah, Gnomish Wanderer, Cuthalion and Smuchmuch get cookies for making me avatars. (::)
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To those awaiting responses in the Hundred Seas Conference, I'm sorry to report that I got rather sick over the weekend and tomorrow is a holiday. I'll have a response up Tuesday night, at the latest.
Also, on my way to Frost Moon still, just been very busy. I can see why rounds are 2 weeks now.
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Re: EMPIRE! CWBG IX: We Keep Score With Bragging Rights! Many Prowess, Such Revolutio
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Re: EMPIRE! CWBG IX: We Keep Score With Bragging Rights! Many Prowess, Such Revolutio
This all looks pretty cool, and frankly since I stopped playing Nationstates I've been itching to flex my freeform worldbuilding muscles. Is this the place to tag interest or is there a specific thread for claiming land and putting my name out?
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This is the place. There is a list of regions in my post above (#69) which I think is the most up-to-date we have. Those not belonging to a player at the moment are left blank in the "kingdom" column although some of those are currently being conquered or claimed (which wouldn't stop you taking it).
There are also a few established NPCs knocking around if you wanted to take over one of them, although that would obviously require working with the existing background rather than writing your own from scratch. Again, some of them are currently being claimed by players, but I guess if you were to take one over that would obviate the claims.GITP Blood Bowl Manager Cup
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According to the wiki, which I beleive was borrowed from my timeline, Jonas Grant was born in 366. I would attribute his longevity to the Islander diet (fish, fruit, rice) and decades of extensive training in both combat forms and Radjura Theosophic practices.
Which matches quite well with the Kina origin story of fighting a demon at the beginning of the world....Last edited by lt_murgen; 2014-10-13 at 08:59 AM.
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Well, I had my eyes on region 108, if there's nothing of major concern going on there. There's a lot of confusing things being thrown about, do I need to contact anyone specific about these claims? What resources are afforded to me, or do I make that decision myself, and what about rulers? I see some of them have stats to their names, am I delving too deep, will these all be explained in due course?
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Well, I can tell you a little about 108. It's bordering my lands to the west and Guilder's to the southwest. When it was first discovered, an army of 10,000 Orcs popped out and tried to invade me, with disastrous results for them. The tattered remnants of their army flew back into that region and sat there for a while. Just last round I attempted to launch a (very late) counterattack, settling that old thing once and for all with a duel rather than engaging in a sure slaughter. Alas, their Warchief (Khaboss? 106 had a Khaboss) managed to defeat my General Caris in a duel due to some seriously unlucky rolls, and it would now be something of a dishonor to continue the invasion attempt.
So 108 is definitely an Orcish sort of Kingdom without any special technologies or stuff (though IIRC it might have special resources that would be overridden by the three new player resources if you didn't want them), and is in kind of a weird position where there's a semi-hostile military superpower on its doorstep that can't invade without looking really bad IC.
Though they would probably take credit for "inspiring" them and extend a second offer of vassalage if the Orcs there were to suddenly civilize and form a nation.Last edited by BladeofObliviom; 2014-10-13 at 09:14 AM.
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And bring him the foreign chaise-lounge to fall upon!
You should probably talk to both me and Blade, as we're the major powers in the area... I don't think you'd crimp either of our style though, so there's no worries. In fact, we're likely to extend an offer of alliance to you...
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A link to the rules might help; I forgot we didn't have one in the OP any more. The rules will eventually be here but there are some rewrites going on and in the meantime the latest version is here (posts 2 and 3). That should give you information on starting out, how to create a region and a ruler, and so forth. Essentially, the region writeup contains basic information about your country, including the people and their religion, three terrain features, three native resources and one resource they're required to import. It also tells you how to generate your first ruler and how the attribute scores work.
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Re: EMPIRE! CWBG IX: We Keep Score With Bragging Rights! Many Prowess, Such Revolutio
Btw Aedilred, Region U11 is colonized by me and has a region post. Its name is Cuen I've added the region post to the Lands thread for convenience and obcure culture zizzle.
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That fits a little of what I had in mind for backstory, wildmen settled deep in the mountains, a beleaguered and weary local populace of humans, a noble class who are bound by their apathy, basically a challenge to try and turn around. Does that fit with ye?
Sure, I'll play the ally game. There anything more to add to the political situation, your two powers on equal footing with eachother or is it more a tense sort of buildup of power in the region?
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It's only half-colonised, though, isn't it? iirc by convention half-colonised regions are still open to being claimed by new players.
Guilder and Glazfell are allied, although the political situation is kind of complicated at the moment (Guilder's traditional allies don't get on with its new ones).Last edited by Aedilred; 2014-10-13 at 09:50 AM.
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