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2014-10-24, 10:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-10-24, 11:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #966 - The Discussion Thread
Oh, a smart gambit by the HPOH there, betting none of the clerics will be high level enough to resurrect him. Of course, if someone thinks to have him scribe a scroll, all bets are off...
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2014-10-24, 11:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-10-24, 11:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #966 - The Discussion Thread
Wonderful - I always loved the town-shopping strips, where several character gets a strip or two for him- or her- or Vself in private. The little town first, then Azure City, then Sandsedge,...
I still hope there is a callback to Eve and Larry's potion shop at the local Potionmaster.
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Nooooow - HpoH's big evil smile was perfectly captured. I can't believe the theory about Hel raising an undead army right in front of Roy though... Maybe HpoH will subtly dominate/hypnotize them, but priests usually have a will save better than that.
My guess is that HpoH acts at the temple so he gets a reference for the High Priests of Thor and Odin back in the dwarven homelands. As a Vampire High Priest, he needs appropriate challenges, you know?
Or, he know enough about Tinkertown to know that they only worship craftmanship gods like Wayland/Volundr.Last edited by Onyavar; 2014-10-24 at 11:18 AM.
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2014-10-24, 11:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-10-24, 11:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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It looks like it might be steamy enough (heh) in Tinkertown that Protection from Sunlight may not be needed.
Who says Durkula has to go directly to the clerics? Get a servant boy or two at each, with orders to start spreading (including to the higher level clerics) immediately after the OOtS leaves. They only need to get one high-level for him to get the spreading underway for the rest of the city, and Durkula doesn't even need to be there. Just leave a couple sleepers in each temple.
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2014-10-24, 11:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #966 - The Discussion Thread
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2014-10-24, 11:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #966 - The Discussion Thread
i really cant figure Durkulas angle here, he was worried about having to spend a week in town so this isnt what hes after (and i doubt the gnomes have much to do with Thor anyway)
but at the same time he obviously wouldnt WANT to get ressurected because then he gets destroyed
im stumped :/
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2014-10-24, 11:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Well, the ability of a servant-boy being able to take out a cleric of, well, any level really, even with vampire powers, is rather slim. Maybe if he got a new acolyte or something, but even then a vampire apocalypse is highly unlikely, because of the ready availability of people to fight it and the weakness of the vampires in question. Plus, theyre on an island. What would a group of vampires even do, assuming they took over? And of course, that still isn't that subtle, because Tinkertown is tiny. Even if the common trope of everybody knowing everybody enough to recognize when something is wrong doesn't hold up, serving boys have to come from somewhere, and their disappearance would definitely be noticed.
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2014-10-24, 11:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-10-24, 11:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-10-24, 11:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Yep.
Resurrection: .... You can resurrect someone killed by a death effect or someone who has been turned into an undead creature and then destroyed.
In fairness, it is possible Roy and the others don't know that part of it, so think you can just cast it directly on the "living" vampire."That's a horrible idea! What time?"
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2014-10-24, 11:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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Several people seem to think he might be looking to take out any high-level clerics who could pose a problem down the line, but rather than starting a fire-fight there's no guarantee he could win, I'm leaning towards the deception angle. The undead-spirit inhabiting Durkon's body seems to prefer that tactic so far.
I think it could possibly go something like:
Spoiler1) Mind Control a cleric when Roy's not looking
2) Have him tell Roy "of course we can fix your friend"
3) Whip up a fake magic "resurrection" with some mumbo-jumbo (Roy's not a cleric, how would he know?)
4) Tell Roy and everyone else Durkon is cured and there's nothing to worry about any more.
This way they'll let their guard down, making it easier for Durkula to stab them in the back.Last edited by Deepbluediver; 2014-10-24 at 11:36 AM.
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2014-10-24, 11:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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I'm curious as to Durkula's angle on this.
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2014-10-24, 11:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
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2014-10-24, 11:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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At first I thought Durkula was just going to the temples to cause trouble and let his presence be known throughout the Northern pantheon, but it seems like Roy is going to accompany him. So I'm leaning toward an attempt to gain Roy's sympathy: the priests will want to slay the vampire despite lacking the magic to resurrect him. This will reaffirm Roy's mind that he'd rather have weird Durkon than no Durkon, as well as guilt Roy whenever the thought of slaying him enters his mins.
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2014-10-24, 11:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-10-24, 11:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Well, looks like the High Priest of Hel is gambling a little bit here. Guess we'll see if it pays off.
I think that the Resurrection spell would only resurrect Durkon, since it is his body. Don't really want to have this argument again, though.
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2014-10-24, 11:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-10-24, 11:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Evil Durkon is up to something ... something evil, no doubt.
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2014-10-24, 11:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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More importantly than Durkula, what's Belkar planning?
My guess is he's off to find anything that helps kill a vampire. Either mundane items or magic items that resist vampiric abilities (Negative energy protection, immunity to charm effects, will save boosts, etc..)
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2014-10-24, 11:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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I don't see why it wouldn't be, at least on paper. Unless the spell specifies that it must be cast on a living target and/or explicitly cannot be cast on undead, it would probably stick. However unless Durkon can cast such a spell on himself whenever he needs it (which, to my knowledge, he cannot) that is still impractical. And it certainly wont fool the Order, as he still needs to drink blood quite often.
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2014-10-24, 12:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
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2014-10-24, 12:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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It will be interesting if HPOH encounters a living cleric. Durkon would never have tolerated an undead creature like a vampire in his presence. I assume other living clerics would also have an extreme distaste for the undead. And other clerics will certainly know that the vampire needs be killed (or destroyed or something like that) before Resurrection can occur. Whatever game Durkula is playing by offering to get resurrected, it should be a great story to watch unfold.
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2014-10-24, 12:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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