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2014-11-18, 01:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 5e doesn't suck... but it doesn't really stack up well against 3.X
I know. Some people like certain things, other people don't.
Well evidently this isn't true, and that's what you've been arguing is a fault of 3.5. A high level character can walk on clouds, swim up a waterfall made of lava, directly override someone's free will by speaking real good, crawl through the gaps in a completely solid wall, accurately forge handwriting they've never seen before, ascertain someone's moral and ethical leanings by glancing at their face for half a second, disable a complex pit trap or open a masterfully made lock in such a small amount of time it doesn't even take an action, see an invisible, motionless zombie floating in midair and, after falling from space, effortlessly land on their feet without taking a single point of damage. And that's without even touching class features, or the good ol' classics such as killing an army of hundreds of thousands without taking a scratch. If that's above-average-but-still-human then I want to meet the humans you've been hanging out with.
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2014-11-18, 02:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-11-18, 02:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 5e doesn't suck... but it doesn't really stack up well against 3.X
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2014-11-18, 02:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 5e doesn't suck... but it doesn't really stack up well against 3.X
Mike Mearls is one of the better RPG designers, especially for D&D. He just sucked with 4e, because he was trying to get the system to do something it couldn't, and he couldn't get the system to work. Yes, he wrote a system that he wasn't fit for (It was designed by others before he got onboard, and then he misunderstood it and screwed it all up)
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2014-11-18, 02:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 5e doesn't suck... but it doesn't really stack up well against 3.X
A number of problems occurred when he took over 4e. He tried to turn it into some sick idea of what he believed was D&D, and that's coincidentally exactly when 4e disappeared from all the best-seller lists. Essentials was an utter failure, and he wrote what is widely considered the worst 4e supplements of all, Heroes of Shadow and BoVD.
Not to mention if you go back through the archives and follow all of his 5e design articles it's comedy gold. The transparency of the 5e design process demonstrated that Mearls had no idea what he was doing at basically any stage.
If 5e is functional, it is in spite of Mike Mearls, not thanks to him.Last edited by Nicol Bolas; 2014-11-18 at 02:43 PM.
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2014-11-18, 03:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 5e doesn't suck... but it doesn't really stack up well against 3.X
I would really like to see a game made by Obryn, Kurald Galain, and Knaight from these forums.
I'm not joking one bit. I would buy the hell out of that. -- ChubbyRain
Current Design Project: Legacy, a game of masters and apprentices for two players and a GM.
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2014-11-19, 09:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-11-20, 03:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 5e doesn't suck... but it doesn't really stack up well against 3.X
Yup. Gamers in general are not noted for attention to cleanliness. Most games don't take place at the little Lord Fauntleroy Academy for albino hemophiliacs with a chamber music quartet playing in the background and a tray of cucumber sandwiches nearby.
I find your notion of equating a DM having to make judgment calls in his or her game with a system designed to be marketed towards stupid people or slobs to be ridiculous & offensive to people who enjoy 5e. This isn't Warhammer; there aren't predetermined values assigned to every challenge in every situation.Last edited by LibraryOgre; 2014-11-20 at 12:04 PM.
Murderhobo with a Shotgun
Learn your rules, learn your rules, if you don't you'll be eaten in your sleep!
burn the munchkin, kill the min/maxer, purge the jediverse
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2014-11-21, 11:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 5e doesn't suck... but it doesn't really stack up well against 3.X
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2014-11-21, 11:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 5e doesn't suck... but it doesn't really stack up well against 3.X
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2014-11-23, 05:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 5e doesn't suck... but it doesn't really stack up well against 3.X
Is it just me or has the conversation not advanced for half a dozen of pages?
Not to be completely out of subject, while 'minor deity' is stretching it, most of the major greek heroes in epics are demi-gods, or are the descendant of a demigod, or are at the very least inferred to have some divine blood in them. Not hard, considering Zeus's tendencies. And they are not that different from minor deities. Basically in a number of greek mythos I can remember, divines are mostly like humans, they just exist with a higher power level and sometimes with a nice divine trick. Dominion over a realm or aspect is reserved for the most powerful ones. So technically an absurdly powerful human is a minor deity. Sure, unless he has magic he can't have the nifty power of springs, but always striking true with a bow and arrow no matter what? Doable. Immortality? Well, unless magic is involved, true immortality is impossible, but if you were already a crazy powerful warrior by the time of your believer's grandparents and you are still undefeated on the battlefield, you are functionally immortal for them. Also, some deities are just very powerful beings, Sobek's job is to look scary and devour the unworthy, mechanically he isn't that different from a top level 3.5 druid. Heck, he doesn't even have spellcasting.
Now, what do greek mythos have to do with egyptian gods? I raise you the roman pantheon.Last edited by Alberic Strein; 2014-11-23 at 05:39 AM.
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2014-11-23, 07:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: 5e doesn't suck... but it doesn't really stack up well against 3.X
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2014-11-23, 08:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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2014-11-23, 11:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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