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2014-11-28, 01:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Hearthstone 9: I dream and the forums tremble.
Hmm.
Yeah, maybe Hoarder over Creeper is a good sub. Thanks :) I also considered the good old 1x Mana Tide, but this deck doesn't have enough board presence for it.
Gadgetzan ... I thought about those, but I feel Azure drakes are better.
It's a matter of consistency vs potential.
Gadgetzan may have more potential, but are a bad play when dropped naked, aren't safe on turn 5 and require either setup or protection. I'm not sure I can provide them. Drake is always a good play. Always gives the card, and spell damage is icing.
Still, I could think about them. Any other input is greatly appreciated.Originally Posted by actual quote from this forum
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2014-11-28, 01:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-11-28, 01:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-11-28, 02:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-11-28, 02:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Very cool. Maybe a controling hunter would be doable with that.
I was already thinking of it even though it would be a while before I could make it.
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2014-11-28, 02:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Hearthstone 9: I dream and the forums tremble.
Now that is just silly.
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2014-11-28, 02:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Hearthstone 9: I dream and the forums tremble.
@Grytorm:
lots of those cards don't belong in the same deck. call pet in particular is laughably bad in a deck with 8 beasts.
that sniper and feign death have good midrange potential.
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2014-11-28, 02:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Wow. Amazing new card! !!
The effect is really strong, on an ok sized minion.
Comparing to Auchenai Soulpriest, obviously.
Both have Ok body, and turn your hero power into the best in the game.
The difference is, Hunter's one is strong because it turns the hero power from non-board-affecting to board-affecting, which is a huge deal, as it completely changes how the game is played.
Priest one is strong because it synergizes with other things (mainly circle of healing)
Overall, a beautiful card, I can't wait to see how it works in the meta.Originally Posted by actual quote from this forum
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2014-11-28, 03:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Hearthstone 9: I dream and the forums tremble.
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witchSteamwheedle Sniper to live!
That poor guy is gonna get focus-fired hard. I probably would never play him on curve, because you want at least one use of out him, but he could be a really nasty T3 plus coin play.Apparently, I'm a Neutral Good Human Wizard (4th Level): Strength 13; Dexterity 14; Constitution 12; Intelligence 17; Wisdom 16; Charisma 13. I'm down with that.
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2014-11-28, 03:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah. Really good point. The eternal annoying problem of call pet. You want to run non beast cards as well. Should have taken a closer look. I don't count the number of beasts enough. But I just hope it is doable. I want a midrange beast deck. Maybe someday.
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2014-11-28, 03:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Hm. It's a lot like Auchenai Soulpriest, with less combos? I feel like you'd Beastmaster something big to protect it - then your opponent has to choose between spending removal on the big guy, or the tiny guy he's protecting that also makes Hunter hero power really strong all of a sudden.
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2014-11-28, 05:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Bleh. I suppose on average it'll be good, but I really dislike something that unreliable. I just know I'll feel like I shouldn't use it on anything with over 3 health unless I have a 1/1 totem or something similarly expendable to throw in if I roll low, at which point it starts feeling like an overpriced lightning bolt. Just... damn it, I wish they'd stop with the RNG stuff already.
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2014-11-28, 05:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-11-28, 05:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Just noticed it doesn't work with priest.
I do wonder how it'd interact with Warrior.Last edited by Gray Mage; 2014-11-28 at 05:31 PM.
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2014-11-28, 05:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Come on, Zevox.
RNG or no RNG this card is better than Lava Burst. And as fellow shaman player I've tried so hard to fit a Burst in the deck, but never succeeded because of the too high cost for the effect and the fact that it's a 3-drop. This card is way better, and we'll have a much easier time finding a slot for it.Originally Posted by actual quote from this forum
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2014-11-28, 05:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-11-28, 05:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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I haven't used Lava Burst in a while, but I'm not sure I'd be willing to take this card over it, personally. There's just so much unreliability inherent in it, and the potential for disaster if you ever use it on something and have it fail to kill it without a nice, expendable token to finish it off with is big.
If it were a Mage card and you could thus always add your hero power to it, I'd probably like it more. But in Shaman? I'll be pretty afraid of using it and having it fail, because you'll often either have to spend another card to finish the job or even just have no way to do so at all. I don't like cards carrying that sort of risk to them.Last edited by Zevox; 2014-11-28 at 05:45 PM.
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2014-11-28, 06:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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I kind of agree. I don't like to be at the mercy of the RNG so much, but sadly that seems to be part of their vision for Shamans. I guess a totem and a Bloodmage are gonna have to be in the arsenal. I think I'll feel obliged to try it, at least - the potential upside is so huge.
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2014-11-28, 06:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Gray Mage: an Amaz fan I see.
This card is actually somewhat problematic... because there is a possibility that any hero can gain access to Steamwheel Sniper via mind control tech/sylvannas. Will Warriors able to give armor to minions?
As far as this card is concern it's probably be meant to play at turn 4 or 3 with coin... just like how no one should play a naked soulpriest without any followup (circle or two mana for damage)
So one should evaluate this card's base value is at least a 2/3 plus arcane shot for 4 mana, which actually isn't that great. However this is also another small minion that can be useful in late game situation (and arguably more useful late game then early game where there's bigger targets to hide steamwheel sniper)
I don't think you can build a deck centered on this card unless control hunters becomes a thing... there's no bigger value for a hunter right now then going for the face.
Spell Shaman (with Malygos) is already a thing, but another overload card is added value for unbound elemental. I was kinda hoping there will be more cards like the unbound elemental so that overload themed deck can become a thing. maybe in the next expansion...
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2014-11-28, 06:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Guilty as charges, Techno.
Not sure how usefull it's be. It's useless in priest, mage, rogue, paladin and shaman. The only ones that could use it is maybe Warlock and warrior.
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2014-11-28, 07:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Hearthstone 9: I dream and the forums tremble.
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2014-11-28, 08:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-11-28, 08:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-11-28, 08:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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It'd be cool (but probably pointless) if they errata'd it to "If already in Shadowform: +1 damage"
On a related note, fought a couple Priests that played Auchenai Soulpriest against my obvious Freeze Mage deck. Just sayin' that's a pretty bad idea, since it's unlikely you'll find something to kill it against, and now you can't healLast edited by r2d2go; 2014-11-28 at 08:40 PM.
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2014-11-28, 09:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Sniper only works with Hunter.
Also Druid gets beast synergy?
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2014-11-28, 09:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-11-28, 10:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Hey, when is Goblins versus Gnomes released anyway? I just realized maybe I should start saving for it and I am wondering how much time I have.
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2014-11-28, 10:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-11-28, 10:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-11-28, 10:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Are we sure about that Druid card? Seems to me the wording is wonky; I'd have expected "gain +3/+3", not "transform into 7/7". Also it's the only card yet not to have art in any way related to the titulatur themes. It's cool, but it seems out of place.
EDIT: Strikes me that I'm wrong about the last one. We have non-related art. Still a bit leery.Last edited by Weimann; 2014-11-28 at 11:01 PM.